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Lingering questions for first build set-up, please!

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January 24, 2007 5:51:27 PM

Hi again :)  Thanks to all of your advice, I think I've almost got a final list to build, woohoo! But I want to run it by you all after a few minor changes, and ask a few questions to make sure I'm still doing it right. Thank you all again in advance!

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3250620AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
$80

Video Card:
eVGA 256-P2-N550 -T2 GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814130073
$119.99

Power Supply:
Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V TUV, UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC - Retail
$70
I had a Seasonic picked out before but it was lower wattage, so now I've got this Tier 3 one (from XS's list), is this good?

Processor:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6300 - Retail Item #: N82E16819115005
$189.00
I keep reading that this cpu is great for overclocking, but I don't overlock yet - is this still okay as is? Can I dabble in overclocking with the rest of my current set-up later if I add more RAM?

Motherboard:
BIOSTAR TForce965PT LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813138037
$104.99

ASUS P5NSLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI Intel Edition ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
I was thinking of switching to this nforce mobo instead of the first one, but if I looked correctly it only has PCIe x1 slots, no x16 for the video card? If so I will stick with the first mobo if you all approve. I had been recoomended by a colleage to go with nforce, any opinions?

Memory:
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory - Retail
$99
No Heat Spreader but I didn’t see any complaints about that in reviews. Switched to 1 gig stick from 2x 512, will add another later.

Case:
COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Black Aluminum & Mesh bezel / SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case – Retail
$50

LG 18X DVD±R Super-Multi DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black IDE Model GSAH22N-BK - OEM Cache: 2MB
$30

Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - OEM
$28

Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition SP2b 1pk w/Upgrade Coupon for Vista - OEM
$139

Have I forgotten anything? Does it have enough cooling?
January 24, 2007 9:38:03 PM

pretty please? :)  Even just a "yes that will work" will do hehe, I just don't want to get things that won't work well together.
January 24, 2007 10:06:44 PM

Hey there! Yeah, everything looks good, although I'd recommend a better pair of RAM sticks. I'd recommend these PQI Turbos because of the timings, but other solutions with the 4-4-4-12 timings instead of 5-5-5-15 timings will work well, like the OCZ's.

And stick with the Biostar, it's a great mobo and is very stable. The P965 will overclock better than the 570 SLI series anyway.

Everything else looks pretty good, I just don't know about the 7800GT's for $130 on Newegg. They are recertified, but are a great deal. If you don't like to take risks, then get the 7600GT. Although the MIR is $30 on the 7600GT which brings the price down to $99.99.

oh yeah, the processor. The e4300 should be better for overclocking, although it does run at a lower FSB initially. I would say get the e4300 but either one is fine for OC'ing.

Overall though, it looks lie a good build. Good luck with it!
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January 24, 2007 10:36:51 PM

Your friend might have meant the p5n-e sli which is a different beast entirely than the p5n sli. It is more expensive than your biostar though. You might also want to consider the other entry level p965 boards but you'll do fine with either the new nvidia 6xx chipset or the p965. The p965 might give you less headaches as long as you have the latest bios up for your motherboard though.

The e6300 is fine as it is. The e4300 may need a bit of a boost but is still good overall but the e4300 is much more friendly for the budget consumer in terms of potential overclocking. This is even before it lowers down in price too but it doesn't offer VT which... most people don't care about right now.
January 24, 2007 11:42:32 PM

The p5n-e is a 650i and not a 570.
January 25, 2007 12:01:23 AM

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Your friend might have meant the p5n-e sli which is a different beast entirely than the p5n sli. It is more expensive than your biostar though. You might also want to consider the other entry level p965 boards but you'll do fine with either the new nvidia 6xx chipset or the p965. The p965 might give you less headaches as long as you have the latest bios up for your motherboard though.

The e6300 is fine as it is. The e4300 may need a bit of a boost but is still good overall but the e4300 is much more friendly for the budget consumer in terms of potential overclocking. This is even before it lowers down in price too but it doesn't offer VT which... most people don't care about right now.


I agree here...either will be fine. Both are great!

As for PSU, get a Hiper 580W for $85. Well worth your money. Modular cables too! :D 
January 25, 2007 1:22:36 AM

Okay, I wasn't really aware of looking at the timings, so I will change to
pqi TURBO 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Desktop Memory - Retail for the 4-4-4-12, got it! I figured anything Corsair was good hehe.

This Seasonic has 500W and 16 & 17 Amps ont he 12v rail (I think?) for $119, that good enough? I would rather break budget and have to save a little more for a quality product then get a crappy product, for sure.

I will stick with the Biostar mobo then.

Thank you!

Oh wait, Hiper PSU? But it is a Tier 4 thing, not good? Hrm the one I picked doesn't have modular cables.. omg just when I thought I had everything picked out!
January 25, 2007 10:05:21 AM

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The p5n-e is a 650i and not a 570.

I never said it was. My reply was directed at Janelle. I was refering to what she posted in the 1st post:

http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=13...

Janelle, Seasonic is by no mean crappy. The S12 you picked isn't modular. The amps are 17 & 16 on TWO +12V rails. Combined would be 33 or a little less.

If you want modular, Seasonic M12 it is. It's more expensive.

Hiper isn't a bad brand. The forum might not have a lot of experience with it. I'd take a Hiper/Tagan if that's the only option.
January 25, 2007 12:26:52 PM

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Okay, I wasn't really aware of looking at the timings, so I will change to
pqi TURBO 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Desktop Memory - Retail for the 4-4-4-12, got it! I figured anything Corsair was good hehe.

This Seasonic has 500W and 16 & 17 Amps ont he 12v rail (I think?) for $119, that good enough? I would rather break budget and have to save a little more for a quality product then get a crappy product, for sure.

I will stick with the Biostar mobo then.

Thank you!

Oh wait, Hiper PSU? But it is a Tier 4 thing, not good? Hrm the one I picked doesn't have modular cables.. omg just when I thought I had everything picked out!


Yeah, never mind, don't get the Hiper PSU. Forget that I even said that. A better option would be either the Seasonic or one of these because these two are cheaper: Xclio or Mushkin The Mushkin is better because of the amps, but I don't really know the importance of that so don't take my word for it :p  The Mushkin does look pretty good though...I'm going to buy one for my system!
January 26, 2007 4:18:10 PM

Delayed response, long work days stink!

Very stupid question but what is modular cabling? Does it make a world of difference when building? Or just makes for less clutter?

I"m just about ready to start buying parts, I think I will try and stay with the Seasonic, just a matter of going with the S12 or saving a bit more for the M12 (modular on those).

Thank you very much for the answers again :) 
January 26, 2007 4:31:58 PM

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Delayed response, long work days stink!

Very stupid question but what is modular cabling? Does it make a world of difference when building? Or just makes for less clutter?

I"m just about ready to start buying parts, I think I will try and stay with the Seasonic, just a matter of going with the S12 or saving a bit more for the M12 (modular on those).

Thank you very much for the answers again :) 

Modular just means the molex cables aren't attached to the power supply - you plug them in to both the power supply and the components. The S12 power supply is fine - modular cables are for people obsessive over airflow and looks through their windows. :) 
January 26, 2007 6:44:17 PM

Modular or not, it makes very little difference. Less cluttering in the case. Looks good with a side window. Maybe cools a little better since there'll be less cables.

The specs look great. Go for it!
January 27, 2007 5:40:07 AM

Okay I'm going for it! Got my shopping cart ready to go on newegg! But I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure UPS does not leave packages on the doorstep if no one is home (it has happened before, but with 1 small item, not a big order like this).

I hope they have a policy on not leaving large orders at least!

Thank you guys for the help, I'm so excited and can't wait to do my first build, woohoo! :D 
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