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January 24, 2007 6:12:10 PM

After reading a previous posters comment about having a $20k bonus from work, using half of it for as gaming rig, I figured I'd post my 2 cents or $7000. All parts are priced from ZipZoomFly. I meant to include links but forgot to, so pardon the lack thereof. Any input?

The Ultimate AMD Gaming Rig - 1/24/07

Motherboard

Asus L1N64-SLI WS nForce 680a SLI Socket F 1000FSB DDR2-800 Motherboard Retail, $390


Processor
AMD Athlon 64 FX-74 Dual Core Processor 3.0GHz Socket F Retail, $532
AMD Athlon 64 FX-74 Dual Core Processor 3.0GHz Socket F Retail, $532

Memory
Geil GX24GB6400DCK 4GB Kit PC2-6400 DDR2 800MHz Value Series Dual Channel Memory Retail, $559
Geil GX24GB6400DCK 4GB Kit PC2-6400 DDR2 800MHz Value Series Dual Channel Memory Retail, $559


Storage
Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB Serial ATA 10,000 RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer, $223
Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB Serial ATA 10,000 RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer, $223
Seagate Barracuda ES ST3750640NS 750GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer, $375

LiteOn LH-2B1S 2X Internal Blu-ray Disc Triple Writer Serial ATA Drive Retail, $600
Liteon LH-20A1H 20X Dual Layer DVD±RW Drive w/Super Allwrite & Lightscribe Beige/Black Retail, $48

NEC 1.44MB 3.5in Internal Floppy Disk Drive (Black), $13

Networking
On-Board LAN: 10/100/1000 Dual Gigabit Ethernet
Wireless LAN: 802.11b/g 54Mbps USB Module


Audio and Video (SLI)
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro Sound Card Retail, $265

Asus EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB PCI-Express Video Card w/Dual-DVI, HDTV-Out Retail, $595
Asus EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB PCI-Express Video Card w/Dual-DVI, HDTV-Out Retail, $595

Case and Power Supply
Thermaltake Tai-Chi VB5001SNA Full Tower Aluminum Case w/Liquid Cooling System Retail, $450
Thermaltake W0131RU ToughPower 850W Modular Power Supply w/APFC EPS Retail, $260


Keyboard and Mouse
Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5000 Laser Retail, $110 = ZipZoomFly

Operating System
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit English Single-Pack DVD OEM, $360

Total:

AMD Athlon 64 FX-74 (3.00 GHz) Quad Core Desktop, $6,689



-- MaSoP

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January 24, 2007 6:29:57 PM

That's an insane AMD rig.. but I'd put money down that a single stock speed X6800 with the same 'other' components would perform faster. Games simply don't take advantage of 4 cores yet, which is why gamers should lean toward the X6800 over the QX6700 for Intel platforms. Just read up on the benchmarks between the X6800 and FX74.. adding another FX74 won't do much.. surely not even close to enough to catch the Conroe. Overclock the X6800, and it's far ahead of even an overclocked FX74.

I'm sure I'll be blasted for being an Intel fanboy.. but I go with the best technology out. The last 4-5 years, it's been AMD - considering the last 4 processors I've owned (and loved) have been the Athlon thunderbird, Athlon XP barton, Athlon64 3000+, and Opteron 140. However, nothing compares to the high end Core2 right now. Intel currently holds the crown. We'll see when AMD releases Barcelona.. I'm hoping K8L takes the lead.. competition is best for all consumers.

This says it all:
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTIzMyw4...

Edit:
You may want to reconsider your power supply.. that article discusses how much of a power hog the 680a+2xFX74 system is.. 400W at idle.
January 24, 2007 6:46:24 PM

I'm not bashing you for choosing AMD, but it would be insane not to get an X6800 for that setup.
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January 24, 2007 6:48:49 PM

Why are you getting the 64-bit edition of Windows Vista? Driver support is supposed to be even worse than in the 32-bit version.

For compatibility, stick with the 32-bit if available.

If you want to take advantage of all your RAM, dual boot with 64-bit Linux or something.
January 24, 2007 6:52:34 PM

Your right, that's really an AMD gaming rig. Have fun with it :wink: You sure have money to burn. Fore me that's way too much for a system, and in a couple of years(let's say 5) you will spend another 7000$ for another system, but never mind.
Peet
January 24, 2007 6:55:26 PM

Why have liquid cooling on the FX-74? The FX-70 doesn't overclock as much and the 72 and 74 are even worse since they're "plateauing" in their design
January 24, 2007 6:59:05 PM

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Your right, that's really an AMD gaming rig. Have fun with it :wink: You sure have money to burn. Fore me that's way too much for a system, and in a couple of years(let's say 5) you will spend another 7000$ for another system, but never mind.
Peet


And at 400W+ power consumption while idle.. get ready to keep burning money for the power bills to own that machine.. 288kW/hr per month idle at 24/7.. that's about $30-40/month where I'm at.. just for the computer alone. That's just another reason the Conroes are fantastic.. performance per watt.
January 24, 2007 7:03:22 PM

Like Silencer said, you'd be better off with a X6800 or even a QX6800.
Also, if you going to go all-out on a computer, you could always replace the 10K RPM Raptors with some 15K RPM SCSI drives.
January 24, 2007 7:06:21 PM

Quote:
and tell me why you didn't wait until barcelona? If you wanted amd, the least you could do is get the fx-62, tests show quadfx is no better at gaming than the fx-62, because it's basically a dual opty rig, nothing new, those offer better multitasking. You should have gotten the x6800 if you wanted a nice gaming rig, that combined with the rd600 with 4gb of this memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...
it would be far faster, you simply wasted a lot of money on an opty rig that is far outperformed by many things on the market right now. I suggest you return the stuff before you start feeling a ton of buyer's remorse from seeing the performance demolished by the qx6700 or barcelona


Whoa nelly! Hehe. I didn't buy that system. It's a configuration I'm considering as a dream system for my birthday perhaps. What I should of included is the system would also be used for 3d rendering, a/v encoding/conversions, photoshop cs2 and general multi-tasking. Games such as Oblivion would also be played on the rig. Thanks for the input.

-- MaSoP
January 24, 2007 7:19:04 PM

Yes. This is another issue. I spend max 700$ for my new system, and that will last for at least 4 or 5 years for me, of course without overclocking. In my opinnion there are lot of other things to spend your money on. Investing in computers that much money isn't a very good idea. Well, this is my oppinion but different people think different and that's ok. By the way I'm an AMD fan as well. :D 
Peet
January 24, 2007 7:29:31 PM

Wow, in Europe you can almost buy a car for that money 8O (like a Citroën 207cc 8) )
January 24, 2007 8:04:36 PM

I'm ready to trade in my 1 year old 350Z Grand Touring for this:


For those who don't know.. Toyota's FT-HS concept. A 400hp hybrid 2+2 with a retractable hardtop roof. 0-60 in around 4s, with 4 cylinder fuel economy around town. The combination of a 296hp 3.5L V6 with a 197ft-lb [from 0 to full rpm] electric motor to generate 400hp when used in combination (100% throttle they both activate). At $35k (original estimation, I'm sure it'll be more like $45-50k), I'll be ready when it comes out.. hopefully as a 2009 model.
January 24, 2007 9:03:47 PM

Quote:
I'm not bashing you for choosing AMD, but it would be insane not to get an X6800 for that setup.


I'd have to agree. That setup would own, but Intel has the upper hand at this point. I'm personally going to wait and see what the K8L will do.

Quote:
I prefer these
I'd tike to go for the aston martin, but the toyota concept may end up with simmilar performance, at a lower price. Toyota will soon be the new GM.
January 24, 2007 9:12:45 PM

I'm in if they come in pink. Will they come in pink?
January 24, 2007 9:27:34 PM

I'm bored, so here is a real dream machine

Silverstone TJ-07
$329.99

OCZ 1000watt GameXStream X2
$699.98

Asus Striker Extreme
$419.99

Intel QX6700
$985.00

Swiftech H20-220 (There is probably better water cooling kits, but I'm impartial to Swiftech.)
$249.99

G.Skill DDR2-800 2x2048MB X2
$1139.98

BFG 8800gtx WaterCooled
$1599.98

Creative X-Fi Elite
$259.99

BFG Physx card
$205.99

WD 150GB Raptor X2
$439.98

Seagate 750GB Barracuda ES X4
$1799.96

Plextor Blu-Ray Burner
$815.99

Plextor DVD Burner
$105.99

Dell 3007WFP 30" widescreen
$1,699

Logitech Z-5500
$299.99

Logitech G15 Keyboard
$71.99

Logitech G7 Mouse
$69.99

Total ~$11'200

Facts:
2KW of power, requires 2 outlets
8GB of memory
3.3TB of HD space
January 24, 2007 9:31:21 PM

8O
In Europe you don't buy a 207 CC for 6689$ = 5156 €.... :?
January 24, 2007 9:35:07 PM

umm...ok. i think u should wait till the quad core AMDs if ur an AMD fanboy. if not go for the x6800, get some next level water cooler and overclock to 4.2 stable and u'll burn any AMD for like the next 2 years. and with the rest of the money, buy a jacuzzi :D 

l8er :) 
January 24, 2007 9:45:29 PM

Just think of the wood body you could make for that, though, Tool. Maybe Cedar? You could probably whittle that up in no time! :) 
January 24, 2007 11:37:59 PM

Quote:
I'm bored, so here is a real dream machine

Asus Striker Extreme
$419.99




eVGA 8800gtx KO X2
$1299.98

Creative X-Fi Elite
$259.99

BFG Physx card
$205.99



I was looking at the Asus website and it appears that while the Striker Extreme does have 2 PCI slots, one will be lost if you use those, how do you say, dual-slot video cards in SLI :( 

So you'll have to lose either the sound card or the Phys-X card, unless someone can suggest a PCI-Express x1 version of either?

<EDIT> Actually, doesn't the Striker Extreme come with a PCI-Ex1 sound card?
January 24, 2007 11:50:59 PM

Quote:
there's pci-e16 phsyx now, and anyway, physx is a waste for dual cores or dual gpu setups


True, but to have the best computer, you have to have everything, whether it's worth it or not :p . If thats the case, I don't have an uber TV tuner card, or raid card, and probably a few other things you could shove into a computer.

Also, to fix the problem of losing your PCI slots on that motherboard, I'll just do a quick swap to the videocards (edited previous post)
a b B Homebuilt system
January 25, 2007 12:10:04 AM

Quote:
After reading a previous posters comment about having a $20k bonus from work, using half of it for as gaming rig, I figured I'd post my 2 cents or $7000. All parts are priced from ZipZoomFly. I meant to include links but forgot to, so pardon the lack thereof. Any input?

The Ultimate AMD Gaming Rig - 1/24/07

Motherboard

Asus L1N64-SLI WS nForce 680a SLI Socket F 1000FSB DDR2-800 Motherboard Retail, $390


Processor
AMD Athlon 64 FX-74 Dual Core Processor 3.0GHz Socket F Retail, $532
AMD Athlon 64 FX-74 Dual Core Processor 3.0GHz Socket F Retail, $532

Memory
Geil GX24GB6400DCK 4GB Kit PC2-6400 DDR2 800MHz Value Series Dual Channel Memory Retail, $559
Geil GX24GB6400DCK 4GB Kit PC2-6400 DDR2 800MHz Value Series Dual Channel Memory Retail, $559


Storage
Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB Serial ATA 10,000 RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer, $223
Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB Serial ATA 10,000 RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer, $223
Seagate Barracuda ES ST3750640NS 750GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer, $375

LiteOn LH-2B1S 2X Internal Blu-ray Disc Triple Writer Serial ATA Drive Retail, $600
Liteon LH-20A1H 20X Dual Layer DVD±RW Drive w/Super Allwrite & Lightscribe Beige/Black Retail, $48

NEC 1.44MB 3.5in Internal Floppy Disk Drive (Black), $13

Networking
On-Board LAN: 10/100/1000 Dual Gigabit Ethernet
Wireless LAN: 802.11b/g 54Mbps USB Module


Audio and Video (SLI)
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro Sound Card Retail, $265

Asus EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB PCI-Express Video Card w/Dual-DVI, HDTV-Out Retail, $595
Asus EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB PCI-Express Video Card w/Dual-DVI, HDTV-Out Retail, $595

Case and Power Supply
Thermaltake Tai-Chi VB5001SNA Full Tower Aluminum Case w/Liquid Cooling System Retail, $450
Thermaltake W0131RU ToughPower 850W Modular Power Supply w/APFC EPS Retail, $260


Keyboard and Mouse
Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5000 Laser Retail, $110 = ZipZoomFly

Operating System
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit English Single-Pack DVD OEM, $360

Total:

AMD Athlon 64 FX-74 (3.00 GHz) Quad Core Desktop, $6,689



-- MaSoP


Intel is King ATM, no questions asked, wether it be cost, power or performance etc.
January 25, 2007 2:06:25 AM

Yes, that is a sweet system, and to not get a X6800 is just..just...I can't think of the appropriate word. Crazy to say the least!
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