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Hey guys,
Well I was up at school working on a school assigntment tonight and my desktop just shut off while working. I have an Aspire X-Navigator which i got last year. The case has a 500w power supply in it. Since I built the computer last year i've been waiting for the power supply to go. (Well i guess wait no longer..right?) Ive deduced that it is the power supply because the whole system is dead. No lights, not fan spin, not post..nothing. I will put it in my roommates commputer tomoro to see if it will work at all. But my question is can anyone recommend me a good power supply. I am willing to spend around 100 dollars for it. I was looking at the hiper modular ps's but don;t know if they will fit.

The Apevia website says that the power supply is just ATX. Were they just inaccurate or will only an old power supply work.

also the friggin maintance guys came into our apartment today to fix our disposal and the guy wasn't getting any current to the switch its on. So he went to the circuit breaker and flipped every switch in the whole apartment....like 5 times without telling me. so my comp kept getting violently shut off. While it is connected to a surge protector there is no Battery backup or anything. Could this be the problem?

And also what is the likely hood that most of the random, no explanation shutoffs I have had with this build are from the ps.

I am running a
3500+
2 opty drives
2 sata drives
1 IDE drive
wireless card
1 gig ram
and a 7800gt
on a a8n sli board.

would like around 5-700 watts for future upgrades.

Thank you very much for your help, I desperately appreciate it.

p.s. sorry for lack of links I am so tired

jhalf

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call that friggn idiot back with some bs story, when he comes over, ram your now dead psu down his throat.

lol

then sue the pants off him for psychological damage or sumat

:D 

sorry, cudnt resist

Well I was actually thinking about it, but assualt felonies don't look very good when applying for an engineering job.

mpilchfamily: I havent seen those ps on newegg. Do you have a link, and the mounting holes dont look like they would match up with my case. Are you sure they will fit.
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Follow the previous links for power supplies there are a number of decent power supplies in the 100 Range. My favorites are Seasonics rock steady and very quiet but they aren't real cheap around $150 a little out of your range. I last bought an OCZ 700W $95 (after your 8 week wait for a rebate) from Tiger Direct two week ago for my son works fine, not real loud, but not as quiet as a Seasonic.

The bigger concern is the failure of your PSU due to repeated input switching may have cooked your motherboard, GPU,CPU,or memory. As the field of the transformer decays it produces a DC voltage on the input and output terminals which typically isn't a problem as it decays within seconds but if switching times are less than a second a voltage spike may occur on the output of the transformer based on the polarity of the applied 60Hz AC at the time of reclosure.

yes. I am worried about my other components. Hopefully it didnt take anything with it when it went. I am going to test my roomamtes power suplly this afternoon. I tested the power supply with a meter on the molex connector and got .038 of a volt. Guess thats a problem. I am hopeful that nothing went with it becasue it happend 3 times and ech time my computer booted somewhat until it just died.


typing a paper...BOOM, shut off!

rebooted

booted up for about 10 min/ or enough time to save the document and everything....BOOM shut off!

rebooted

got to see some cool info about the energy saving features of the computer right after post....BOOM shut off.

completley dead.


hopefully my little guy didn't let me down...

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Hey guys,
Well I was up at school working on a school assigntment tonight and my desktop just shut off while working. I have an Aspire X-Navigator which i got last year. The case has a 500w power supply in it. Since I built the computer last year i've been waiting for the power supply to go. (Well i guess wait no longer..right?) Ive deduced that it is the power supply because the whole system is dead. No lights, not fan spin, not post..nothing. I will put it in my roommates commputer tomoro to see if it will work at all. But my question is can anyone recommend me a good power supply. I am willing to spend around 100 dollars for it. I was looking at the hiper modular ps's but don;t know if they will fit.

The Apevia website says that the power supply is just ATX. Were they just inaccurate or will only an old power supply work.

also the friggin maintance guys came into our apartment today to fix our disposal and the guy wasn't getting any current to the switch its on. So he went to the circuit breaker and flipped every switch in the whole apartment....like 5 times without telling me. so my comp kept getting violently shut off. While it is connected to a surge protector there is no Battery backup or anything. Could this be the problem?

And also what is the likely hood that most of the random, no explanation shutoffs I have had with this build are from the ps.

I am running a
3500+
2 opty drives
2 sata drives
1 IDE drive
wireless card
1 gig ram
and a 7800gt
on a a8n sli board.

would like around 5-700 watts for future upgrades.

Thank you very much for your help, I desperately appreciate it.

p.s. sorry for lack of links I am so tired

jhalf


Read this post and stay away from Dual Rail PSU's and for the love of god do not take mpilchfamily's PSU advice :roll:


I know this post is in regards to sli but if you read it you will see where I am coming from with dual 12v rail PSU's.


For only $119.00 you can get this enermax PSU which provides 550watts continuous power and peaks at 650watts. It has a good single 12v rail with 36amps on it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...



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First of all to the OP listen to someone that has experience first hand with an SLI 8800GTX setup. I have plenty of experience with it and so does my best friend who started out with the OCZ gamexstream 700 along with a similar setup as yours and he has since then replaced that psu with a PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 because once he started overclocking his E6600 his OCZ psu was unable to handle the load and he would get random shutdowns. Go over to Nvnews.net, there have been a few guys that have ruined some of there components using the 700watt ocz in an Overclocked SLI'd 8800GTX rig simply because it doesn't supply enough power.

Its not that the OCZ gamexstream 700 is a bad PSU its just that its underpowered for an SLI 8800GTX rig and leaves no head room for overclocking or future expansions. It makes no sense to go all out and buy a top notch system like the one your getting and then try to go the cheap rout on the most vital component in your system (PSU). That being said it will save you more money in the long run with to spend a little more now and have it be a little bit of overkill as you will find yourself not having to upgrade the PSU nearly as soon as you would if you half assed it. If you Buy a cheap one now just to get you by you will be spending more money in the long run as you will be buying another PSU much sooner than you may have expected and you might even be replacing parts that your insufficient PSU damaged.

While Amps and Wattage are important factors there are other things to consider such as the Efficiency rating along with the Continuous Temps that the PSU was stress tested under in order to get the Efficiency rating. A lot of PSU manufactuars will often not show this info, sometimes they will only show the efficiency rating and leave out the temps that it was tested under, this can be misleading because usually when they leave out the temps it means it was tested at a mere 25c which is not a realistic temp for a psu that has been underload for any significant amount of time. Pcpower and cooling test their effeciency ratings at 40-50c which are much more accurate true to life temps with a PSU under load so you know when it says 83% efficiency that those numbers are real and can be trusted.

Read this link concerning the OCZ 700. Doesnt sound to promising.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/397/5



OK you do know i am the author of the PSU 101
sticky right.



Thats a scary thought and you should know better than to recommend a PSU that is just barely going to meet the OP's power requirements. The OP is going to be running 8800GTX's in SLI along with an E6600 and plans to overclock plus he wants the PSU to last him a good while without needing to replace it. The PSU you are recommending to him is not going to give him any overclocking headroom and will likely become unstable and possibly damage his system if he does overclock using the psu you suggested.



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Also you know that the OCZ gamerexstream PSUs have quad +12v rails.



I realize that, still it doesnt take away from the fact that the amps are split up over multiple rails which in turn will limit certain components to the amount of power that they can draw vs if he had a Stout Single Rail PSU there would be ZERO concerns of where the power is going as his components are free to draw as much amps as they would like from the single 12v rail.


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Also you do realise that the best PSUs on the market are high amperage single +12v rail units.


Well as the owner of a PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 with 60amps on the single 12v rail I guess you could say that I do.

thanks for your reply.

I was hoping for something modular to clean up my case. I like the look of the black type-r.

but will it be reliable enough? I dont ever plan on going sli. Just a e6600 build soon with a directx card.

thanks

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Please do not bring rants from other threads into this one, it is disrespectful to the OP.


It isnt a rant. Its a post from me in another PSU forum and I bring some nice points with that post.

Agreed, the amps are split up between the rails but single rail PSUs are few and far between. I've only seen one (quality) company with a single rail and that would PC Power and Cooling.

Please keep it up... I enjoy sending your PM's into the permanent 'trash can".

Post count means nothing. Bad advice is bad advice, and so far you are at about 20% reliable information, imo...

Just my 2p.

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Agreed, the amps are split up between the rails but single rail PSUs are few and far between. I've only seen one (quality) company with a single rail and that would PC Power and Cooling.



Enermax, Silverstone and Pc power and cooling all provide great quality single 12v rail PSU's

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Please keep it up... I enjoy sending your PM's into the permanent 'trash can".

Post count means nothing. Bad advice is bad advice, and so far you are at about 20% reliable information, imo...

Just my 2p.


Very well said.

yay!. Just installed my hiper 580 watt. Modular is fantastic. My case is so clean with little cable visibility. Power supply started nicely. Nice LED fans. Awesome! Hopefully it will last long long time. Thanks for all of your help guys..and as always the egg is great.
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