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Damn Fine Gaming for about a Grand: Can it be Done?

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January 25, 2007 5:51:54 AM

What, a semi-ignorant gamer asking for rig advice? Why that's practically unheard of. All joking aside, it has finally come time for me to take my 3 year old rig out back to be shot, and I was wondering if the kind and nurturing individuals of the TH boards would be willing to help me out.

So here's the deal:

Budget: Preferably around 1000, but could push to 1200 or so

The Task:

I want a shiny new Core2Duo system, and I'd rather not give any money to ATI as I've had some profoundly bad experiences with their cards. If at all possible, I'd like the flexibility to be able to upgrade to an nVidea based DX10 card when games actually start supporting it without having to first yank out my mobo and PSU.


Any and all feedback is appreciated, even those people telling me that I'm out of my mind and can't hope for good performance at my current budget. My only request is that no one responds in a manner demonstrative of the level of intelligence of the average fungus/counter-strike player.

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January 25, 2007 10:05:16 AM

No problem

Core 2 Duo e6400 CPU - £150
Tuniq Tower 120 CPU cooler- £35
2gb Geil DDR2 PC6400 RAM - £165
Innovision GeForce 7950GT 256MB Graphics card - £155
Gigabyte GA 965G-DS3 iG965 Mobo - £100
Antec 900 Case - £70
320gb Seagate HD - £60
580W Hiper Type R PSU - £60
= £795

Monitor, keyboard, mouse, soundcard up to you! You still got £205 to play with eh!
January 25, 2007 10:15:05 AM

^^^ seconded.

Perhaps, drop the cpu cooler if you won't overclock, & downgrade the video to 7900gs if you will upgrade to dx10 soon.
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January 25, 2007 10:21:10 AM

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^^^ seconded.

Perhaps, drop the cpu cooler if you won't overclock, & downgrade the video to 7900gs if you will upgrade to dx10 soon.


Yeah, or get an Arctic freezer 7 pro which only costs £12.
January 25, 2007 10:26:26 AM

Yeh im with that, id say you wodulnt need the 320gb HDD but u may aswell go down a gfx or two and wait a few motnhs for the dx10s to come out.

my system was 750 and it is going for it. with a grand you could quite easily overdo it well. But i woudl recommend waiting for a pric drop in the 8800 series
January 25, 2007 10:46:58 AM

I think he is talking US$. 795 £ = 1550 US$
January 25, 2007 10:53:33 AM

Hmmm, I'm trying to figure out how parge figures Penguinx0r was talking pounds and not US dollars? 795 pounds is about 1600 US dollars...

Cooler Master Cavalier 3 CAV-T03-UK
$69.99

OCZ GameXStream 600watt PSU
$103.99 (-$20.00 MIR)

Asus P5N-E SLI 650i chipset motherboard
$141.99

Intel Core2Duo E6300
$187.90

Crosair XMS 2x1024MB DDR2-800 4-4-4-12
$260.00 (-$40.00 MIR)

XFX 7900gs XXX Edition
$199.99 (-$20.00 MIR)

Seagate 7200.10 7200RPM 16MB SATAII 320GB
$99.99

Lite-On SATA 16x DVD Burner
$41.80

Total: $1026.00 (before taxes, shipping, after MIR)

I would of used Newegg but there site is down :( .
January 25, 2007 11:06:33 AM

He could get a X1900XT for $199 (214-15 MIR) at Newegg (it's alive again)

X1900XT - $199
January 25, 2007 11:31:26 AM

Quote:
Hmmm, I'm trying to figure out how parge figures Penguinx0r was talking pounds and not US dollars? 795 pounds is about 1600 US dollars...

Cooler Master Cavalier 3 CAV-T03-UK
$69.99

OCZ GameXStream 600watt PSU
$103.99 (-$20.00 MIR)

Asus P5N-E SLI 650i chipset motherboard
$141.99

Intel Core2Duo E6300
$187.90

Crosair XMS 2x1024MB DDR2-800 4-4-4-12
$260.00 (-$40.00 MIR)

XFX 7900gs XXX Edition
$199.99 (-$20.00 MIR)

Seagate 7200.10 7200RPM 16MB SATAII 320GB
$99.99

Lite-On SATA 16x DVD Burner
$41.80

Total: $1026.00 (before taxes, shipping, after MIR)

I would of used Newegg but there site is down :( .


I second that.
January 25, 2007 11:35:15 AM

ASUS P5N-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - OEM = $134

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail = $267

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6300 = $187

AeroCool Turbine Power ATX12V 550W Power Supply = $107

Nvidia 8600 ultra (Fast as 7800GTX and supports DX10)( coming out early march) = $ 197

Pioneer 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Read Beige ATAPI Model DVR-111D = $32

HITACHI Deskstar T7K500 HDT725032VLA360 (0A33435) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s = $90

Totaling a Whooping $774 Thats a major BARGAIN! :wink:
January 25, 2007 11:44:24 AM

Quote:
ASUS P5N-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - OEM = $134

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail = $267

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6300 = $187

AeroCool Turbine Power ATX12V 550W Power Supply = $107

Nvidia 8600 ultra (Fast as 7800GTX and supports DX10)( coming out early march) = $ 197

Pioneer 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Read Beige ATAPI Model DVR-111D = $32

HITACHI Deskstar T7K500 HDT725032VLA360 (0A33435) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s = $90

Totaling a Whooping $774 Thats a major BARGAIN! :wink:


Go for the E4300 instead and just up the FSB to 333 straight away :D 
January 25, 2007 11:45:10 AM

Quote:
Totaling a Whooping $774 Thats a major BARGAIN! :wink:


$1014 you mean (anyway, it's a good setup, unfortunately he has to wait)
January 25, 2007 11:47:01 AM

Quote:
F1nal_0men wrote:
Hmmm, I'm trying to figure out how parge figures Penguinx0r was talking pounds and not US dollars? 795 pounds is about 1600 US dollars...

Cooler Master Cavalier 3 CAV-T03-UK
$69.99

OCZ GameXStream 600watt PSU
$103.99 (-$20.00 MIR)

Asus P5N-E SLI 650i chipset motherboard
$141.99

Intel Core2Duo E6300
$187.90

Crosair XMS 2x1024MB DDR2-800 4-4-4-12
$260.00 (-$40.00 MIR)

XFX 7900gs XXX Edition
$199.99 (-$20.00 MIR)

Seagate 7200.10 7200RPM 16MB SATAII 320GB
$99.99

Lite-On SATA 16x DVD Burner
$41.80

Total: $1026.00 (before taxes, shipping, after MIR)

I would of used Newegg but there site is down .



I second that.


I second this, but maybe go with the gigabyte ds3 if you arent going to do sli ever. It has a good Ocing rep around here.

GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
January 25, 2007 11:59:07 AM

Im in a similar boat but I always factur in a new copy of windows, which hurts my budget a lot when Im trying to make every dollar count.
January 25, 2007 12:18:55 PM

Best deal I have found so far for a mid-level gaming rig.
Pro's: 4300 can be overclocked a great deal easily, decent mid-level card until dx10 comes out, cheaper MB but rated high by this very site
Cons:No SLI on MB


Part Item Description Price
CPU CORE 2 DUO E4300-1.80G $179.00
RAM CORSAIR XMS2 2GB(PC2 6400)-$40 MIR $256.00
GPU1 BFG Tech GeForce 7600GT-$50 MIR $145.00
HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB 7200 RPM $81.00
MB BIOSTAR TForce965PT $111.12
CASE COOLER MASTER Centurion ATX Mid Tower-$10 MIR $65.00
PS APEVIA ATX-AS520W-BK ATX 520W - $15 MIR $68.00
Sub Total $905.12
Rebates $115.00
Total $790.12 ***EDIT This is w/ shipping***
January 25, 2007 1:36:52 PM

Quote:
Best deal I have found so far for a mid-level gaming rig.
Pro's: 4300 can be overclocked a great deal easily, decent mid-level card until dx10 comes out, cheaper MB but rated high by this very site
Cons:No SLI on MB


Part Item Description Price
CPU CORE 2 DUO E4300-1.80G $179.00
RAM CORSAIR XMS2 2GB(PC2 6400)-$40 MIR $256.00
GPU1 BFG Tech GeForce 7600GT-$50 MIR $145.00
HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB 7200 RPM $81.00
MB BIOSTAR TForce965PT $111.12
CASE COOLER MASTER Centurion ATX Mid Tower-$10 MIR $65.00
PS APEVIA ATX-AS520W-BK ATX 520W - $15 MIR $68.00
Sub Total $905.12
Rebates $115.00
Total $790.12


If your a gamer, a 7600gt just wont cut it anymore, especially considering you can get a 79**, x19** for ~200$. But for value, thats not bad.
January 25, 2007 6:12:10 PM

Hooray for rapid responses.

In any case, I probably should have specified that this is in USD rather than £
January 25, 2007 6:24:13 PM

Quote:
In any case, I probably should have specified that this is in USD rather than £

Yeah I figured it. 1000 pounds is not any challenge... Heck, I built with a 6600 and 8800 for aprox. 1400-1500
January 25, 2007 6:46:13 PM

I've had some bad luck with mobos in the past; which one of these boards would you say is the most OC friendly?
January 25, 2007 6:55:10 PM

I think nobody mentioned it, but assuming you are not going sli, the Gigabyte P965-DS3 is a wonderful MOBO for O/C at a very good price.
January 25, 2007 6:57:40 PM

While SLi would be nice, it is so far from the reality of my current budget that it probably wont be financially viable until I'm ready for a major overhaul anyway.
January 25, 2007 7:03:47 PM

2 people have mentioned it. I would too every chance I get, but I don't wanna sound biased.
January 27, 2007 4:01:00 AM

My setup:

Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 Allendale 1.8GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E4300 - Retail

GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4

APEVIA ATX-AS520W-BK ATX 520W Power Supply

XFX PVT71PUDD3 GeForce 7900GS 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3250620AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

COOLER MASTER Centurion RC-534-KKR2 Black Aluminum & Mesh bezel, SECC chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 430W Power Supply

SAMSUNG 18X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write, LightScribe Technology Black SATA Model SH-S183L - OEM

Should I pull the trigger?
January 27, 2007 4:13:43 AM

I see two PSU and no DVD. I would agree that the 430 W is not beefy nuff but do you have to pay for it or is the another case you could go for?

Big Al in Seattle
January 27, 2007 4:15:57 AM

SONUVA.

I thought I added that DVD peripheral
January 27, 2007 1:35:10 PM

I would select a different powersupply. Preferably a good name brand.

This link stolen from mpilchfamily, and is a listing of good power supplies.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10...

I would recommend a tier 1 or 2 PSU. However, tier 3 psu's aren't bad. I use a an Antec True Power 550watt (a tier 3 I believe) and it's never given me a hiccup.

A lower watt higher quality psu can be better than a high watt, lower quality one. Also pay attention to the amps on the +12v. Modern video cards and cpu's need those amps to function right.

EDIT: Stay away from tier 4 and 5 PSU's! Not all models are bad, but the statistics aren't as good as tiers 1-3.
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