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May 28, 2004 11:22:14 PM

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Hi all.
Knowing practically nothing about HDTV, I went with the
Hitachi 57" with integrated HDTV.

I do not have it hooked up the way the book says. I have a receiver and
peripherals for surround sound and so all is run through it.
The DTV (3 head oval HDTV dish) goes from the sat box to my vcr to my
tv. So, the only thing hooked to my TV is this cable. (antenna a) The
installer even left
a device he said I would need when I purchased an HDTV (I did not have the
TV when the
Sat was installed. I have not hooked up the device he gave me because my
Hitachi
has integrated HDTV....Have I done the right thing here?

The problem? no HDTV...I get all the channels and shows. My DVD's (Finding
Nemo
if just beautiful on this TV) look spectacular...but things broadcast in
HDTV
simply look the same...no wow, no sharper graphics...I think they are even
grainier
that my previous TV.

So...what now?

Thanks,
jojo

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Anonymous
May 28, 2004 11:22:15 PM

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Well, with a built-in tuner you should get available OTA-HD if you
antenna is adequate and your market offers it.

For satellite, you need to run the DVI or component cables directly from
the satellite HD receiver to the TV. VRCs do not do (or pass along)
HDTV.

Harry
Admin at http://www.hdtvforum.com
Anonymous
May 29, 2004 11:36:02 AM

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See in-line for my comments:

"jojo" <cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<GjMtc.1727$j67.892@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>...
> Hi all.
> Knowing practically nothing about HDTV, I went with the
> Hitachi 57" with integrated HDTV.
>
> I do not have it hooked up the way the book says.

Well, why not :) 

> I have a receiver and
> peripherals for surround sound and so all is run through it.
> The DTV (3 head oval HDTV dish) goes from the sat box to my vcr to my
> tv. So, the only thing hooked to my TV is this cable. (antenna a) The
> installer even left
> a device he said I would need when I purchased an HDTV (I did not have the
> TV when the
> Sat was installed. I have not hooked up the device he gave me because my
> Hitachi
> has integrated HDTV....Have I done the right thing here?

What device did he give you? An RF modulator maybe? Can you describe
the device (inputs and outputs, does it need power, etc...)

The current Hitachi's with integrated tuner typically have three
tuners built int, two NTSC tuners (labeled Atenna A and Atenna B) and
then one DTV (8VSB) tuner (labeled Atenna C), follow these steps:

1. Hook your atenna up to the port labled "Atenna C".

2. Go into Setup on the TV's menu and perform the manditory channel
scan (see manual for details), channel scan has to be performed for
DTV tuner in the Hitachi or you'll get no reception.

3. Hit the Atenna button on the remote a few times to get to Atenna C
input, then go though your local channels, wahla you're recieving
over-the-air broadcast though 8VSB (providing of course you're local
networks are broadcasting digital feed), if something is HD you'll see
it. Check you local PBS station first (they almost always broadcast in
HD or widescreen)... also make sure your atenna is strong enough. I
have a small Philips, in-door powered atenna ($16 at Walmart) which
does the job fine for me. A large antenna outside may be required if
you live too far from the towers.


>
> The problem? no HDTV...I get all the channels and shows. My DVD's (Finding
> Nemo
> if just beautiful on this TV) look spectacular...but things broadcast in
> HDTV
> simply look the same...no wow, no sharper graphics...I think they are even
> grainier
> that my previous TV.


If this is the case then you're not seeing HD broadcast, follow the
steps listed above to make you of your integrated DTV tuner to recieve
HD over-the-air. On atenna A or B you will not get HD as these tunners
are normal non-digital, UHF/VHF NTSC tuners.



>
> So...what now?
>
> Thanks,
> jojo

I hope I've answered your questions, some other tips that I follow:

- Perform the MagicFocus (auto convergence) for every sixty hours of
use (for me this is every two weeks) and if you haven't already done
it since the TV was delivered, go ahead. Perform manual focus after
auto to fine tune things (optional, the magic focus does a pretty good
job).

- If you aren't already doing this, make sure you use component video
for the connection between your DVD player and the TV and your HD
cable box to TV (if you have cable)

If your wondering, this is what component cables look like:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=1...

S-Video, Coax, "RCA"/composite cables shouldn't be an option anymore,
unless the device just doesn't support something better. HD requires
component or better (applies to digital cable).

- Calibrate the TV soon! If you have a DVD with the THX optimizer use
this, the contrast on the Hitachi's (as well as most other rp-HDTV
sets) is way too high. Mine came set at like 75%. Turn it down to
around to 45-50%. Adjust the brightness to 50-60%. In Advanced video
settings, use Movie Mode for DVD and HD broadcast (I rarely switch to
any other mode, except ocassionally for Sports). If you have a F
series (e.g. 57F700) you may want to look into adjusted the "red
push". If you want to go further get a copy of ISF Video Essentials
(it's like the THX optimizer, only better)

- I've found the dimmer option (in Advanced video settings) is a must
during the day. I think on some sets this is actually on the remote as
a simple daytime/nighttime button.

Enjoy your set.
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June 1, 2004 5:51:25 PM

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See in-line for my response
(thanks so much for this detailed help)

"JamesMason" <jmason@funnydelight.co.uk> wrote in message
news:D 4e30081.0405290636.58fc55ac@posting.google.com...
> See in-line for my comments:
>
> "jojo" <cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<GjMtc.1727$j67.892@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>...
> > Hi all.
> > Knowing practically nothing about HDTV, I went with the
> > Hitachi 57" with integrated HDTV.
> >
> > I do not have it hooked up the way the book says.
>
> Well, why not :) 

Trying to run everything through my receiver!!


> > I have a receiver and
> > peripherals for surround sound and so all is run through it.
> > The DTV (3 head oval HDTV dish) goes from the sat box to my vcr to my
> > tv. So, the only thing hooked to my TV is this cable. (antenna a) The
> > installer even left
> > a device he said I would need when I purchased an HDTV (I did not have
the
> > TV when the
> > Sat was installed. I have not hooked up the device he gave me because my
> > Hitachi
> > has integrated HDTV....Have I done the right thing here?
>
> What device did he give you? An RF modulator maybe? Can you describe
> the device (inputs and outputs, does it need power, etc...)

No, not an RF, I'll look at the box tonight and see.

> The current Hitachi's with integrated tuner typically have three
> tuners built int, two NTSC tuners (labeled Atenna A and Atenna B) and
> then one DTV (8VSB) tuner (labeled Atenna C), follow these steps:
>
> 1. Hook your atenna up to the port labled "Atenna C".

from my vcr? another person answered that HDTV will nto go through my VCR.
If this is the case, it kinda rules out surround sound right?


> 2. Go into Setup on the TV's menu and perform the manditory channel
> scan (see manual for details), channel scan has to be performed for
> DTV tuner in the Hitachi or you'll get no reception.

Now see, I hooked up to antenna c at one point, but since I got no reception
I figured
it was the wrong place. I did not run channel scan, because I assumed the
sat box was supposed
to control channel selection as it does on antenna a.

> 3. Hit the Atenna button on the remote a few times to get to Atenna C
> input, then go though your local channels, wahla you're recieving
> over-the-air broadcast though 8VSB (providing of course you're local
> networks are broadcasting digital feed), if something is HD you'll see
> it. Check you local PBS station first (they almost always broadcast in
> HD or widescreen)... also make sure your atenna is strong enough. I
> have a small Philips, in-door powered atenna ($16 at Walmart) which
> does the job fine for me. A large antenna outside may be required if
> you live too far from the towers.

Do I need this with HDTV sattalite?

>
>
> >
> > The problem? no HDTV...I get all the channels and shows. My DVD's
(Finding
> > Nemo
> > if just beautiful on this TV) look spectacular...but things broadcast in
> > HDTV
> > simply look the same...no wow, no sharper graphics...I think they are
even
> > grainier
> > that my previous TV.
>
>
> If this is the case then you're not seeing HD broadcast, follow the
> steps listed above to make you of your integrated DTV tuner to recieve
> HD over-the-air. On atenna A or B you will not get HD as these tunners
> are normal non-digital, UHF/VHF NTSC tuners.
>
>
>
> >
> > So...what now?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > jojo
>
> I hope I've answered your questions, some other tips that I follow:
>
> - Perform the MagicFocus (auto convergence) for every sixty hours of
> use (for me this is every two weeks) and if you haven't already done
> it since the TV was delivered, go ahead. Perform manual focus after
> auto to fine tune things (optional, the magic focus does a pretty good
> job).
>
> - If you aren't already doing this, make sure you use component video
> for the connection between your DVD player and the TV and your HD
> cable box to TV (if you have cable)
>
> If your wondering, this is what component cables look like:
>
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=1...
19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3996%3A4537
>
> S-Video, Coax, "RCA"/composite cables shouldn't be an option anymore,
> unless the device just doesn't support something better. HD requires
> component or better (applies to digital cable).
>
> - Calibrate the TV soon! If you have a DVD with the THX optimizer use
> this, the contrast on the Hitachi's (as well as most other rp-HDTV
> sets) is way too high. Mine came set at like 75%. Turn it down to
> around to 45-50%. Adjust the brightness to 50-60%. In Advanced video
> settings, use Movie Mode for DVD and HD broadcast (I rarely switch to
> any other mode, except ocassionally for Sports). If you have a F
> series (e.g. 57F700) you may want to look into adjusted the "red
> push". If you want to go further get a copy of ISF Video Essentials
> (it's like the THX optimizer, only better)
>
> - I've found the dimmer option (in Advanced video settings) is a must
> during the day. I think on some sets this is actually on the remote as
> a simple daytime/nighttime button.
>
> Enjoy your set.

Thanks you so much for your help! I am going to print these directions and
try all of these things tonight.

jojo
June 1, 2004 5:51:26 PM

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"Harry Dugan" <shamrock2020@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:19288-40B79DDA-112@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net...
> Well, with a built-in tuner you should get available OTA-HD if you
> antenna is adequate and your market offers it.
>
> For satellite, you need to run the DVI or component cables directly from
> the satellite HD receiver to the TV. VRCs do not do (or pass along)
> HDTV.
>
> Harry
> Admin at http://www.hdtvforum.com
>
>

Hi Harry....so I need to run sat directly to the TV on antenna c (dtv)?
Then from the TV go back to the receiver with audio/video so that my
receiver
handles the surround sound?

Thanks,
jojo
Anonymous
June 1, 2004 5:51:27 PM

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You CAN hook up the audio that way----but that will be analog sound only,
not digital--

You should have a DIGITAL AUDIO COAX OUT or DIGITAL AUDIO OPTICAL OUT on
your satellite box----connect one of these outputs to the corresponding
input on your audio receiver----you will need a TOSLINK optical cable or a
digital coax cable depending on which you have/use.

Then, you use your audio receiver tuned to whichever input you used (usually
TV/SAT) to listen to the audio while you watch the video at the same time in
glorious HIGH DEF :-)



"jojo" <cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yR%uc.1728$iX1.397@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
>
> "Harry Dugan" <shamrock2020@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:19288-40B79DDA-112@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net...
> > Well, with a built-in tuner you should get available OTA-HD if you
> > antenna is adequate and your market offers it.
> >
> > For satellite, you need to run the DVI or component cables directly from
> > the satellite HD receiver to the TV. VRCs do not do (or pass along)
> > HDTV.
> >
> > Harry
> > Admin at http://www.hdtvforum.com
> >
> >
>
> Hi Harry....so I need to run sat directly to the TV on antenna c (dtv)?
> Then from the TV go back to the receiver with audio/video so that my
> receiver
> handles the surround sound?
>
> Thanks,
> jojo
>
>
Anonymous
June 1, 2004 7:30:36 PM

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jojo wrote:
> See in-line for my response
> (thanks so much for this detailed help)
>
> "JamesMason" <jmason@funnydelight.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:D 4e30081.0405290636.58fc55ac@posting.google.com...
>
>>See in-line for my comments:
>>
>>"jojo" <cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:<GjMtc.1727$j67.892@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>...
>
>>>Hi all.
>>>Knowing practically nothing about HDTV, I went with the
>>>Hitachi 57" with integrated HDTV.
>>>
>>>I do not have it hooked up the way the book says.
>>
>>Well, why not :) 
>
>
> Trying to run everything through my receiver!!
>
>
>
>>>I have a receiver and
>>>peripherals for surround sound and so all is run through it.
>>>The DTV (3 head oval HDTV dish) goes from the sat box to my vcr to my
>>>tv. So, the only thing hooked to my TV is this cable. (antenna a) The
>>>installer even left
>>>a device he said I would need when I purchased an HDTV (I did not have
>
> the
>
>>>TV when the
>>>Sat was installed. I have not hooked up the device he gave me because my
>>>Hitachi
>>>has integrated HDTV....Have I done the right thing here?
>>
>>What device did he give you? An RF modulator maybe? Can you describe
>>the device (inputs and outputs, does it need power, etc...)
>
>
> No, not an RF, I'll look at the box tonight and see.
>
>
>>The current Hitachi's with integrated tuner typically have three
>>tuners built int, two NTSC tuners (labeled Atenna A and Atenna B) and
>>then one DTV (8VSB) tuner (labeled Atenna C), follow these steps:
>>
>>1. Hook your atenna up to the port labled "Atenna C".
>
>
> from my vcr? another person answered that HDTV will nto go through my VCR.
> If this is the case, it kinda rules out surround sound right?
>
>
>
>>2. Go into Setup on the TV's menu and perform the manditory channel
>>scan (see manual for details), channel scan has to be performed for
>>DTV tuner in the Hitachi or you'll get no reception.
>
>
> Now see, I hooked up to antenna c at one point, but since I got no reception
> I figured
> it was the wrong place. I did not run channel scan, because I assumed the
> sat box was supposed
> to control channel selection as it does on antenna a.
>
>
>>3. Hit the Atenna button on the remote a few times to get to Atenna C
>>input, then go though your local channels, wahla you're recieving
>>over-the-air broadcast though 8VSB (providing of course you're local
>>networks are broadcasting digital feed), if something is HD you'll see
>>it. Check you local PBS station first (they almost always broadcast in
>>HD or widescreen)... also make sure your atenna is strong enough. I
>>have a small Philips, in-door powered atenna ($16 at Walmart) which
>>does the job fine for me. A large antenna outside may be required if
>>you live too far from the towers.
>
>
> Do I need this with HDTV sattalite?
>
>
>>
>>>The problem? no HDTV...I get all the channels and shows. My DVD's
>
> (Finding
>
>>>Nemo
>>>if just beautiful on this TV) look spectacular...but things broadcast in
>>>HDTV
>>>simply look the same...no wow, no sharper graphics...I think they are
>
> even
>
>>>grainier
>>>that my previous TV.
>>
>>
>>If this is the case then you're not seeing HD broadcast, follow the
>>steps listed above to make you of your integrated DTV tuner to recieve
>>HD over-the-air. On atenna A or B you will not get HD as these tunners
>>are normal non-digital, UHF/VHF NTSC tuners.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>So...what now?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>jojo
>>
>>I hope I've answered your questions, some other tips that I follow:
>>
>>- Perform the MagicFocus (auto convergence) for every sixty hours of
>>use (for me this is every two weeks) and if you haven't already done
>>it since the TV was delivered, go ahead. Perform manual focus after
>>auto to fine tune things (optional, the magic focus does a pretty good
>>job).
>>
>>- If you aren't already doing this, make sure you use component video
>>for the connection between your DVD player and the TV and your HD
>>cable box to TV (if you have cable)
>>
>>If your wondering, this is what component cables look like:
>>
>
> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=1...
> 19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3996%3A4537
>
>>S-Video, Coax, "RCA"/composite cables shouldn't be an option anymore,
>>unless the device just doesn't support something better. HD requires
>>component or better (applies to digital cable).
>>
>>- Calibrate the TV soon! If you have a DVD with the THX optimizer use
>>this, the contrast on the Hitachi's (as well as most other rp-HDTV
>>sets) is way too high. Mine came set at like 75%. Turn it down to
>>around to 45-50%. Adjust the brightness to 50-60%. In Advanced video
>>settings, use Movie Mode for DVD and HD broadcast (I rarely switch to
>>any other mode, except ocassionally for Sports). If you have a F
>>series (e.g. 57F700) you may want to look into adjusted the "red
>>push". If you want to go further get a copy of ISF Video Essentials
>>(it's like the THX optimizer, only better)
>>
>>- I've found the dimmer option (in Advanced video settings) is a must
>>during the day. I think on some sets this is actually on the remote as
>>a simple daytime/nighttime button.
>>
>>Enjoy your set.
>
>
> Thanks you so much for your help! I am going to print these directions and
> try all of these things tonight.
>
> jojo
>
>

You cannot get HDTV if you're running it through your VCR.

I'm assuming you have a satellite receiver box. From this box you
need to take RGB component or DVI to your TV directly (or you can go
through your receiver if it'll handle switching those connections).
Audio should go optical or coax digital to your receiver from the sat
box.

Remove your VCR from this setup completely for now.
June 2, 2004 12:39:12 AM

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"Michael J. Sherman" <msherman@dsbox.com> wrote in message
news:t32vo1-qah.ln1@developers.dsbox.com...
> jojo wrote:
> > See in-line for my response
> > (thanks so much for this detailed help)
> >
> > "JamesMason" <jmason@funnydelight.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:D 4e30081.0405290636.58fc55ac@posting.google.com...
> >
> >>See in-line for my comments:
> >>
> >>"jojo" <cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:<GjMtc.1727$j67.892@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>...
> >
> >>>Hi all.
> >>>Knowing practically nothing about HDTV, I went with the
> >>>Hitachi 57" with integrated HDTV.
> >>>
> >>>I do not have it hooked up the way the book says.
> >>
> >>Well, why not :) 
> >
> >
> > Trying to run everything through my receiver!!
> >
> >
> >
> >>>I have a receiver and
> >>>peripherals for surround sound and so all is run through it.
> >>>The DTV (3 head oval HDTV dish) goes from the sat box to my vcr to my
> >>>tv. So, the only thing hooked to my TV is this cable. (antenna a) The
> >>>installer even left
> >>>a device he said I would need when I purchased an HDTV (I did not have
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>TV when the
> >>>Sat was installed. I have not hooked up the device he gave me because
my
> >>>Hitachi
> >>>has integrated HDTV....Have I done the right thing here?
> >>
> >>What device did he give you? An RF modulator maybe? Can you describe
> >>the device (inputs and outputs, does it need power, etc...)
> >
> >
> > No, not an RF, I'll look at the box tonight and see.
> >
> >
> >>The current Hitachi's with integrated tuner typically have three
> >>tuners built int, two NTSC tuners (labeled Atenna A and Atenna B) and
> >>then one DTV (8VSB) tuner (labeled Atenna C), follow these steps:
> >>
> >>1. Hook your atenna up to the port labled "Atenna C".
> >
> >
> > from my vcr? another person answered that HDTV will nto go through my
VCR.
> > If this is the case, it kinda rules out surround sound right?
> >
> >
> >
> >>2. Go into Setup on the TV's menu and perform the manditory channel
> >>scan (see manual for details), channel scan has to be performed for
> >>DTV tuner in the Hitachi or you'll get no reception.
> >
> >
> > Now see, I hooked up to antenna c at one point, but since I got no
reception
> > I figured
> > it was the wrong place. I did not run channel scan, because I assumed
the
> > sat box was supposed
> > to control channel selection as it does on antenna a.
> >
> >
> >>3. Hit the Atenna button on the remote a few times to get to Atenna C
> >>input, then go though your local channels, wahla you're recieving
> >>over-the-air broadcast though 8VSB (providing of course you're local
> >>networks are broadcasting digital feed), if something is HD you'll see
> >>it. Check you local PBS station first (they almost always broadcast in
> >>HD or widescreen)... also make sure your atenna is strong enough. I
> >>have a small Philips, in-door powered atenna ($16 at Walmart) which
> >>does the job fine for me. A large antenna outside may be required if
> >>you live too far from the towers.
> >
> >
> > Do I need this with HDTV sattalite?
> >
> >
> >>
> >>>The problem? no HDTV...I get all the channels and shows. My DVD's
> >
> > (Finding
> >
> >>>Nemo
> >>>if just beautiful on this TV) look spectacular...but things broadcast
in
> >>>HDTV
> >>>simply look the same...no wow, no sharper graphics...I think they are
> >
> > even
> >
> >>>grainier
> >>>that my previous TV.
> >>
> >>
> >>If this is the case then you're not seeing HD broadcast, follow the
> >>steps listed above to make you of your integrated DTV tuner to recieve
> >>HD over-the-air. On atenna A or B you will not get HD as these tunners
> >>are normal non-digital, UHF/VHF NTSC tuners.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>So...what now?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>jojo
> >>
> >>I hope I've answered your questions, some other tips that I follow:
> >>
> >>- Perform the MagicFocus (auto convergence) for every sixty hours of
> >>use (for me this is every two weeks) and if you haven't already done
> >>it since the TV was delivered, go ahead. Perform manual focus after
> >>auto to fine tune things (optional, the magic focus does a pretty good
> >>job).
> >>
> >>- If you aren't already doing this, make sure you use component video
> >>for the connection between your DVD player and the TV and your HD
> >>cable box to TV (if you have cable)
> >>
> >>If your wondering, this is what component cables look like:
> >>
> >
> >
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=1...
> > 19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3996%3A4537
> >
> >>S-Video, Coax, "RCA"/composite cables shouldn't be an option anymore,
> >>unless the device just doesn't support something better. HD requires
> >>component or better (applies to digital cable).
> >>
> >>- Calibrate the TV soon! If you have a DVD with the THX optimizer use
> >>this, the contrast on the Hitachi's (as well as most other rp-HDTV
> >>sets) is way too high. Mine came set at like 75%. Turn it down to
> >>around to 45-50%. Adjust the brightness to 50-60%. In Advanced video
> >>settings, use Movie Mode for DVD and HD broadcast (I rarely switch to
> >>any other mode, except ocassionally for Sports). If you have a F
> >>series (e.g. 57F700) you may want to look into adjusted the "red
> >>push". If you want to go further get a copy of ISF Video Essentials
> >>(it's like the THX optimizer, only better)
> >>
> >>- I've found the dimmer option (in Advanced video settings) is a must
> >>during the day. I think on some sets this is actually on the remote as
> >>a simple daytime/nighttime button.
> >>
> >>Enjoy your set.
> >
> >
> > Thanks you so much for your help! I am going to print these directions
and
> > try all of these things tonight.
> >
> > jojo
> >
> >
>
> You cannot get HDTV if you're running it through your VCR.
>
> I'm assuming you have a satellite receiver box. From this box you
> need to take RGB component or DVI to your TV directly (or you can go
> through your receiver if it'll handle switching those connections).
> Audio should go optical or coax digital to your receiver from the sat
> box.
>
> Remove your VCR from this setup completely for now.
how do I set up the VCR??
Anonymous
June 2, 2004 12:39:13 AM

Archived from groups: alt.tv.tech.hdtv (More info?)

Hi jojo,

Your set should have a seperate coax connector for DTV, in addition to
NTSC-UHF/VHF tuners which will each offer their own coax connector
(each gets it's own letter name on Hitachi sets). Unfortunately VCR's
(even S-VHS decks) are only designed to work with UHF/VHF signal or
composite input (aka RCA input).

If you have cable or satellite, run the coax output (or composite
output) from the box into one of your UHF/VHF tunner connectors on the
back of your VCR and finally out to your HDTV set (labeled A or B).
You can also run composite video or s-video cable from the cable box
to your set. If you have a High Definition cable/sat reciever box run
component (red/green/blue seperated cables) from the box to the set.

If you do not have cable, you need a coax spliter for your antenna
input. Run the main cable from the antenna into the spliter, then from
the spliter to the "C" input, run another cable from the splitter into
the "Antenna input" on the back of your VCR and then another cable
from the VCR to the television (s-video, composite, coax, whatever you
prefer).

If you want to record something in HD you're going to need a D-VHS
deck (digital VCR) and if you had a D-VHS deck it would connect to the
HDTV though IEEE 1394 inputs (located near port C on the back of your
set). You can also record HD using an HD-DVR unit. Some cable
companies are starting to offer these for very reasonable rates.

-Jeremy

> > You cannot get HDTV if you're running it through your VCR.
> >
> > I'm assuming you have a satellite receiver box. From this box you
> > need to take RGB component or DVI to your TV directly (or you can go
> > through your receiver if it'll handle switching those connections).
> > Audio should go optical or coax digital to your receiver from the sat
> > box.
> >
> > Remove your VCR from this setup completely for now.
> how do I set up the VCR??
June 2, 2004 5:13:48 PM

Archived from groups: alt.tv.tech.hdtv (More info?)

Jeremy....
Thanks for the info..
May I reiterate?
Coax from the Sat box to the VCR to the TV (antenna A) (the VCR has
component cable gong to the oncyo receiver.) This is so that I can watch
regular TV, and play tapes (no real interest in recording, but must be able
to play.)
Again from the sat box to the TV from HDTV to DTV on the Hitachi (antenna c)
Then from the sat box with components to the oncyo receiver, so that I can
watch the HDTV and hear the sound through the surround sound system.?
After connecting HDTV to the TV, I have to run channel scan (as the other
man mentioned)?

Thanks for your help (and patience)


"JDeats" <jeremy@pdq.net> wrote in message
news:b0738dc6.0406011810.3464d963@posting.google.com...
> Hi jojo,
>
> Your set should have a seperate coax connector for DTV, in addition to
> NTSC-UHF/VHF tuners which will each offer their own coax connector
> (each gets it's own letter name on Hitachi sets). Unfortunately VCR's
> (even S-VHS decks) are only designed to work with UHF/VHF signal or
> composite input (aka RCA input).
>
> If you have cable or satellite, run the coax output (or composite
> output) from the box into one of your UHF/VHF tunner connectors on the
> back of your VCR and finally out to your HDTV set (labeled A or B).
> You can also run composite video or s-video cable from the cable box
> to your set. If you have a High Definition cable/sat reciever box run
> component (red/green/blue seperated cables) from the box to the set.
>
> If you do not have cable, you need a coax spliter for your antenna
> input. Run the main cable from the antenna into the spliter, then from
> the spliter to the "C" input, run another cable from the splitter into
> the "Antenna input" on the back of your VCR and then another cable
> from the VCR to the television (s-video, composite, coax, whatever you
> prefer).
>
> If you want to record something in HD you're going to need a D-VHS
> deck (digital VCR) and if you had a D-VHS deck it would connect to the
> HDTV though IEEE 1394 inputs (located near port C on the back of your
> set). You can also record HD using an HD-DVR unit. Some cable
> companies are starting to offer these for very reasonable rates.
>
> -Jeremy
>
> > > You cannot get HDTV if you're running it through your VCR.
> > >
> > > I'm assuming you have a satellite receiver box. From this box you
> > > need to take RGB component or DVI to your TV directly (or you can go
> > > through your receiver if it'll handle switching those connections).
> > > Audio should go optical or coax digital to your receiver from the sat
> > > box.
> > >
> > > Remove your VCR from this setup completely for now.
> > how do I set up the VCR??
Anonymous
June 3, 2004 8:02:34 PM

Archived from groups: alt.tv.tech.hdtv (More info?)

Alright,

The coax input labeled "Antenna C" is for DTV (Digital Televison)
input. That goes into the 8VSB (DTV/HDTV) tunner built into your set
for pulling over-the-air DTV/HD reception. Ok, you can't run anything
into that input expect a cable going stright to an antenna of some
sort (I use a small powered sit-top antenna that works great).

Your VCR, Cable box, etc.. send analog NTSC signal though their coax
output so you CAN NOT hook them up to the DTV in. The port is just for
an antenna and nothing else.

To get High Definition over satellite you need a sat reciever box that
supports HD (same is true with cable), however your old non-HD cable
box will also work with your TV you just won't get HD. Your HDTV is
backwards compatible with existing NTSC RF standards and that makes
this possible (that's what Antenna A and B are for).

When you do get a HD cable box or sat box you'll need component cables
(with R/G/B seperation) or DVI to connect the box up to your HDTV.
S-video, coax, RCA (aka composite) cables just can't handle the
bandwidth. HD cable at sat boxes offer also the typical outputs NTSC
analog outputs which you can hook up to your VCR, Tivio, whatever...

I hope I've helped clear some of this up. The Hitachi's owners manual
is a very good resource and I've found it to be well written. If you
don't have the manual you can obtain a PDF copy from www.hitachi.com


-Jeremy





"jojo" <cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<gokvc.3865$3y6.2173@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>...
> Jeremy....
> Thanks for the info..
> May I reiterate?
> Coax from the Sat box to the VCR to the TV (antenna A) (the VCR has
> component cable gong to the oncyo receiver.) This is so that I can watch
> regular TV, and play tapes (no real interest in recording, but must be able
> to play.)
> Again from the sat box to the TV from HDTV to DTV on the Hitachi (antenna c)
> Then from the sat box with components to the oncyo receiver, so that I can
> watch the HDTV and hear the sound through the surround sound system.?
> After connecting HDTV to the TV, I have to run channel scan (as the other
> man mentioned)?
>
> Thanks for your help (and patience)
>
>
> "JDeats" <jeremy@pdq.net> wrote in message
> news:b0738dc6.0406011810.3464d963@posting.google.com...
> > Hi jojo,
> >
> > Your set should have a seperate coax connector for DTV, in addition to
> > NTSC-UHF/VHF tuners which will each offer their own coax connector
> > (each gets it's own letter name on Hitachi sets). Unfortunately VCR's
> > (even S-VHS decks) are only designed to work with UHF/VHF signal or
> > composite input (aka RCA input).
> >
> > If you have cable or satellite, run the coax output (or composite
> > output) from the box into one of your UHF/VHF tunner connectors on the
> > back of your VCR and finally out to your HDTV set (labeled A or B).
> > You can also run composite video or s-video cable from the cable box
> > to your set. If you have a High Definition cable/sat reciever box run
> > component (red/green/blue seperated cables) from the box to the set.
> >
> > If you do not have cable, you need a coax spliter for your antenna
> > input. Run the main cable from the antenna into the spliter, then from
> > the spliter to the "C" input, run another cable from the splitter into
> > the "Antenna input" on the back of your VCR and then another cable
> > from the VCR to the television (s-video, composite, coax, whatever you
> > prefer).
> >
> > If you want to record something in HD you're going to need a D-VHS
> > deck (digital VCR) and if you had a D-VHS deck it would connect to the
> > HDTV though IEEE 1394 inputs (located near port C on the back of your
> > set). You can also record HD using an HD-DVR unit. Some cable
> > companies are starting to offer these for very reasonable rates.
> >
> > -Jeremy
> >
> > > > You cannot get HDTV if you're running it through your VCR.
> > > >
> > > > I'm assuming you have a satellite receiver box. From this box you
> > > > need to take RGB component or DVI to your TV directly (or you can go
> > > > through your receiver if it'll handle switching those connections).
> > > > Audio should go optical or coax digital to your receiver from the sat
> > > > box.
> > > >
> > > > Remove your VCR from this setup completely for now.
> > > how do I set up the VCR??
!