Two similar AMD Athlon 64's...which is better?

[ledzep228]

1) Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice) 2.0 ghz, 2000mhz htt

2) Athlon 64 3400 + (Venice) 2.2ghz, 1600mhz htt


They have identical L1(64kb+64kb) & L2 cache (512kb), and would be using an identical motherboard.

Which is better and why?

-ledzep

 

[BobA]

1) Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice) 2.0 ghz, 2000mhz htt

2) Athlon 64 3400 + (Venice) 2.2ghz, 1600mhz htt


They have identical L1(64kb+64kb) & L2 cache (512kb), and would be using an identical motherboard.

Which is better and why?

-ledzep

The 3400+ Venice is 2000mhz htt, not 1600. I know because all Venice cores support 2000 mhz htt. If you see an ad for a 3400+ with a 1600 mhz htt then it is either not a Venice or the ad is wrong.

The 3400+ will be slightly faster than the 3200+

-Bob

 

[aBg_rOnGak]

If you want to save some money, buy the lower clocked one and then OC it.I dunno how far it could go (it also depends on your other hardwares), but with stock HSF, Venice 3000+ (1.8GHz) can go up to 2.4GHz,so both cpu might go higher (as oppose to will go higher)

 

[ledzep228]

1) Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice) 2.0 ghz, 2000mhz htt

2) Athlon 64 3400 + (Venice) 2.2ghz, 1600mhz htt


They have identical L1(64kb+64kb) & L2 cache (512kb), and would be using an identical motherboard.

Which is better and why?

-ledzep

The 3400+ Venice is 2000mhz htt, not 1600. I know because all Venice cores support 2000 mhz htt. If you see an ad for a 3400+ with a 1600 mhz htt then it is either not a Venice or the ad is wrong.

The 3400+ will be slightly faster than the 3200+

-Bob
It could still be 1600 and venice if it is a socket 754 version. Just a little before AM2 out AMD released socket 754 venices. To the OP, do you have links to these 2 chips?

You are correct. The 3400 is a socket 754 version. Newegg.com seems to be down right now, will get links posted as soon as I can.

In light of this new information, is the 3200+ now a better buy?

 

[ledzep228]

If both cpu's are 754's I would go with the 3400+. What is the current motherboard that you are going to be using? Newegg seems to be working fine for me btw.

Here is the 3200+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103535

Here is the 3400+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103023

It states in the title "939 socket" for the 3400, but says 1600mhz HTT on the despcription.

This guy mentions in his comment below that the 3400+ only has 1600 mhz HTT AND a smaller L2 cache.

Now I'm really confused now because the spec sheets show the L2 cache as being the same.
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1/9/2007 11:03:40 AM

meh

Pros: overclock's well enough i suppose. i think i got to 2.9 stable, dont remember. 2.8 definitely

Cons: worth about 25$

Other Thoughts: this is socket 754 technology thrown into 939 pin configuration. thats why it only has an ldt throw of 4 rather than the standard 5 (1600mhz versus 2000 htt) also the smaller L2 cache.. venice was origionally a socket 754
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When it comes to it I will probably get the 3200+ and overclock it a little bit. Reason being that it comes with a CPU heatsink and fan, the 3400+ does not.

-ledzep