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January 26, 2007 2:47:59 AM

Anyone know what month of 2007 the nvidia 8900 will be out? Also, are there any LINKS that say anything about it? I wonder what the specs will be!

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January 27, 2007 3:59:22 AM

not right now. i dont really think so atm. so far we know that nvidia is releasing there lower end g80 series. the 8600ultra/GT, 8300GT/GS

http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=4834

everybodys really excited becuase of the price range :) 
people say it gonna surpass the 7950
January 27, 2007 4:07:46 AM

ugh... i was just plannin to buy a 7950gt.. if thats true, if the 8600 series gonn a surpass the 7950.. should i wait for em to come out? i was kinda hoping to get an upgrade fast cuz right now i have a crappy card. is the launching date of these accturate? (around march)

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January 27, 2007 4:08:45 AM

if i were you, and im not, just wait. trust me, its worth it. im getting 2 of these 8600ultra for my self :) 
January 27, 2007 4:17:40 AM

I think the 8600s will come late february or first march, probably before CeBit.
January 27, 2007 4:34:31 AM

r these g80 gonna have 256 or 128-bit memory bus?? ive heard its 128.. will these mid range dx10 cards will b able to surpass the best of dx9 (256-bit or so)? and i mean only at dx9 games, obviously.
January 27, 2007 4:36:48 AM

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Anyone know what month of 2007 the nvidia 8900 will be out? Also, are there any LINKS that say anything about it? I wonder what the specs will be!


*Rubs crystal ball* Later :lol: 
January 27, 2007 4:45:31 AM

I think they will be 128bit, and they will offer performance a little less than 79xxs.
January 27, 2007 4:56:09 AM

less than a g7950gt 256mb 256-bit? really? then how will a g8600b able to handle a good dx10 game then?

im still not sure wether getting the 7950gt or just wait for these to come out... so far every review is from a non-reliable source.
January 27, 2007 4:58:58 AM

There performance will be better in DX10 because of their unified shader architecture. they don't benifet from it in DX9 games.

if u r thinking of playin DX10 games, u should wait.
January 27, 2007 5:07:03 AM

well who wouldnt want to play dx10 games, but how would this card perform on dx9 games? there r a lot of good dx9 games out there.
lol, i think my problem is im too unpatient. i was hoping to get the upgrade next week, but now i dont know if i should wait till march or so to see what these g8600 r all about. right now i have a G fx5500 256 mb.. so u see my dilema. lol
January 27, 2007 5:15:35 AM

:D  , i know how u feel, I had a 5200 b4 my 7950Gx2.

their performance is excellant for DX9 games, unless u play on a resolution more than 1600x1200 u will be fine.

u should wait for them, unless u want to buy a card that will be obsolete in a few weeks.
January 27, 2007 5:35:54 AM

There has also been very uncommited talk of SLI 2.0 coming in the near future supposedly it will allow you to run non matching cards. Tere were no specifics as to weather they can be different generations or what but if and when SLI 2.0 comes out I think we will be seeing the days of a gpu dedicated to physics, get one or 2 bad ass cards to run the main game then a lower end model to run the physics on hence the 2 SLI connectors for the new 8800 gtx cards.
January 27, 2007 5:46:02 AM

hahaha! FX series for the win!!.... NOT! :x but oh well.. i guess ill have to wait. do u really think the g8600 will cost $180? would b awesome but i guess we'll have to see. Also, will they b a PSU-eater as well? if i buy it ill definitely would have to buy another PSU.. lol. I hope they stick with the dates we know tho, march or so, cuz it would suck to keep "playing" for 5 months with a G Fx if they delay the date..

About the SLi 2.0.. that sounds pretty good, ive never heard of it since now..
man, these things evolve way too fast, its like you give away your money and then a while later you can get the same thing for half prize :( 
January 27, 2007 5:58:59 AM

they will probably come around 200$ but not more. and get a new p.s.u, even a cheap one is better than yours.

P.S: I sticked with my 5200 for 3 years 8O
January 27, 2007 6:02:32 AM

here is a link to the article where I found the info it was posted or should I say I found it on hardocp.com

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4539

There is precious little info since it is basically a small paragraph and no it doesn't mention using one of the card for physics but there has been talk going around recently about running a multi gpu setup with say 3 card with 2 doing the graphics and on doing physics or a 2 card set up one for graphics and one for physics. It does pose some interesting possibilities though of card combinations. Should be interesting to see how it eventually fleshes out.
January 27, 2007 6:17:57 AM

that psu looks good, however, if u r thinking od SLi in the future then a 650W or more will be better

Other than that, it's fine
January 27, 2007 6:23:26 AM

I agree that looks good power wise I dont know alot about quality when it comes to psu's but there are plenty of people who do and could give you good advice, all I know is get the biggest and best quality one you can afford to give you more leeway in the future. Oh speaking of quality from most of the things I have read pc power and cooling are supposed to be some pretty good psu's.
January 27, 2007 6:40:47 AM

It depends on what exactly are u SLIing, if it's a low or mid range card, then u won't need it. But if it's an 8800, u better buy the biggest u find, minimum 650W, cuz a system with one consumes about 240W, let alone when u have 2 and some headroom.
January 27, 2007 7:00:53 AM

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Anyone know what month of 2007 the nvidia 8900 will be out? Also, are there any LINKS that say anything about it? I wonder what the specs will be!


8900? Not a clue... but found this about Nvidias next step (maybe)

Not the most trusted source but... G81 talk going around
January 27, 2007 7:01:20 AM

hm.. how about 2 7950gt's, 600W enough? Also, since a single 8800gtx needs 450W, i guess the g8600 ultra or whatever would have to use that or less, so a 500W PSU would be sufficient. im not really lookin for SLing a 8800gts/gtx i would prolly need to upgrade my whole comp 1st. At 1st i was thinking to get a 7950gt and then, a 8800gts when the prices lower down. But ill wait hopefully 1 1/2 months for the new 86's to come out.

A bit off the subject, but does any1 know if this is compatible with my system? its 1 gig of ram, (PC6400 DDR2 800MHz)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

i think the voltage exceeds my min requirements, but im not sure.
January 27, 2007 7:06:58 AM

a 500W one is fine, also what were ur specs again? :?:
January 27, 2007 7:15:27 AM

right.. i never posted them here, i forgot, sry. they rnt so great.

processor: Intel Pentium D 820
chipset: Intel i945P
currently 2 x 256 MB DDR2-SDRAM PC2-4300
mainboard : intel prague

According to pc wizard:
Voltage : SSTL 1.8v
and also under the mainboard/chipset section : RAM max. Support :D DR2 (667 MHz)

Im not sure what the last thing is, can the memory be higher than 667 mhz?
January 27, 2007 7:20:59 AM

yeah, u r on that etc VS etc thread, anyway the last part of ur specs (667) means that ur pc can run at maximum a PC5400 DDR2 Ram, any thing bigger such as PC6400 or more will not be supprted.
January 27, 2007 7:33:48 AM

i see, i would have to buy something like this then, right?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

i assume it is compatible with the voltage as well?

btw - thers a difference of like 10 bucks, from Ultra, Kingston and Corsair. Would i notice a difference in performance within these brands in such a low difference of price?
January 27, 2007 7:40:15 AM

performance doesn't differ much, unless u can see the 0.5% increase or decrease.

Generally get Corsair, but if u can't find it then anything else will do.
January 27, 2007 7:46:09 AM

oh really? i thought OCZ gold was better for gaming. But should i take off the 2x256 pc 4300, and run only 1 gig, or run it alltogether, 1.5 gigs in total.

lol, sry bout all the questions man, its about the last 1. i just didnt wnat to make a mistake.
January 27, 2007 7:49:19 AM

I'm Happy to answer anything :D  ,


Run them together, if u get problems (pc freezes, slower performance, crashes) then take them out.
January 27, 2007 8:01:37 AM

OK then, ill give it a try. i should notice considerable change right? i mean the 2x256 MB are only 266 MHz each. oh well.. hopefully these damn g8600's will b out in like 1 month, till then.. fx5500!! :p  .... :roll:

i will cya around man, im out. i added u to the buddy list thing.

thanks a lor for ur help.

GGz.
January 27, 2007 12:44:52 PM

Thanks PCAnanlyst. At least you were able to find something on the possible 8900. I just got the EVGA 8800GTX and will use their step-up program if the 8900 card comes out within the next 90 days. :) 
January 27, 2007 7:13:47 PM

yeah.. sry about that
January 27, 2007 8:01:44 PM

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right.. i never posted them here, i forgot, sry. they rnt so great.

processor: Intel Pentium D 820
chipset: Intel i945P
currently 2 x 256 MB DDR2-SDRAM PC2-4300
mainboard : intel prague

According to pc wizard:
Voltage : SSTL 1.8v
and also under the mainboard/chipset section : RAM max. Support :D DR2 (667 MHz)

Im not sure what the last thing is, can the memory be higher than 667 mhz?


Actually rodr... if that is the BIOSTAR version of the i945P Motherboard... it has a front side bus up to 1066MHz... so it should be able to accomodate RAM faster than DDR2 667... I don't know where you read or copied the "(RAM max)" above from, but the specs given on motherboards are usually given as "(Memory Standard)" DDR2 .....yada yada.

Link to Biostar Model i945P mobo

A value RAM option may exist for you in DDR2 800 if you investigate it a little bit. Of course the place to do that is the Motherboards manufacturers website and search for memory compatibility.

For instance... my motherboard specs read: Memory Standard: DDR2 800, when in fact I know it will accomodate up to DDR2 1150.
January 27, 2007 8:08:43 PM

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Thanks PCAnanlyst. At least you were able to find something on the possible 8900. I just got the EVGA 8800GTX and will use their step-up program if the 8900 card comes out within the next 90 days. :) 


Sure... though I wouldn't put too much stock in it as it is from the Inquirer.

They have a habit of coming back and apologizing for printing incorrect Data, probably due to them reading Taiwanese forum threads, and trying to get the jump on other sites.

It doesn't stop many other sites from quoting them though... anything to keep you coming back.
January 27, 2007 8:42:11 PM

Well, the BIOSTAR u mentioned says Memory Standard : DDR2 667
I cant find anywhere on PC Wizard the memory standard thing, it just says this (from the chipset section)

General Information :
NorthBridge : Intel i945P
SouthBridge : 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Controller

NorthBridge Information :
Architecture : Direct Media Interface (DMI)
Manufacturer : Intel (Sony Corp)
Codename : Lakeport
Revision : 00
Bus Speed : 200 MHz
FSB Frequency : 800 MHz (QDR)
FSB max. Support : 1066 MHz
RAM max. Support : DDR2 (667 MHz)

Hmm it says FSb frecuency 10066 mhz.. lol so confused. i wouldnt want to buy something that isnt compatible with my computer but i was actually hoping i'd get a 800Mhz RAM, such as the OCZ GOLD 6400.
January 27, 2007 9:51:59 PM

Yes i heard about The Inquirer. Anyway, we will see later on if the 8900 is the next Nvidia card or not. Time will tell. If anyone hears more about it, then just post it. Thanks!
January 27, 2007 10:28:58 PM

What is the Motherboard maker name... we can go from there. But I just don't know about that 667 number so much... both the Biostar and ASUS versions can run DDR2 800.

If you have a Foxconn or Epox version you may not be able to run 800, but those are the Auto settings for that board... and I assume that by setting it to manual in the Bios you can adjust that to manual and increase the RAM speed along with a slight increase in Voltage - so long as your mobo can handle the extra .1, .2 or .3 volts. The ASUS can handle up to 2.3v across the DRAM... which would certainly be enough for the RAM you chose. (2.2v) for the 800MHz 1 gig stick.

Again... as I said before... the number listed in the specs - from the manufacturer - should read memory standard... but in this case it could very well mean Max of 667MHz RAM... and it entirely depends on who made your board as I have found several makers that offer better levels for the i945P.
January 27, 2007 10:33:47 PM

I want to do the step-up thing for a 8600 Ultra...

Oh guys... I got your equal... a FX5200 for the past 3 and a half years! I was stupid and bought it for $60 after rebates from Best Buy, back when I was 12... I'm waiting for the 8600 Ultra... I don't care particularly much about 256mb-512mb of VRAM, but the 256bit buss and 64 shaders are attractive... it's actually the cheapest for the preformance... I compared number of shaders for the price... right now few games use more then 256mb of VRAM (and all the cards have at least that?).

Name Shaders Core Memory MB Buss Price Cost/Shader
8800 GTX 128 575 1800 768 384bit $599 $4.68
8800 GTS 96 500 1600 640 320bit $399 $4.16
8800 GTS 96 500 1600 320 320bit $299 $3.11
8600 Ultra 64 500 1400 n < 512 256bit $179 $2.80
8600 GT 48 350 1200 n < 256 128bit $149 $3.10
8300 GT 32 500 1200 n < 256 128bit n < $99 $3.09
8300 GS 24 500 1000 n < 256 128bit n < $79 $3.29

If that makes any sense to you... good luck! The last number is important... the lower the better.
January 27, 2007 10:46:41 PM

Nice work...

I realize there is a premium for top end cards, but having a price per shader is somewhat meaningless when it comes down to overall performance of the card vs price.

Just my thoughts...
January 28, 2007 12:02:08 AM

This is what i have on the mobo:

General Information :
Manufacturer : Intel Corporation (Intel)
Product : PRAGUE
Version : AAD12395-206
Serial Number : BTPR55203382
Support MP : Yes, 1 CPU(s)
Version MPS : 1.4

Chassis Information :
Manufacturer : Sony Corporation
Type : Desktop
Version :Chassis Version
Serial Number : Chassis Serial
Asset : no asset tag

My current RAM is:
Manufacturer : Infineon
Type : 2x (256 MB DDR2-SDRAM PC2-4300 (266 MHz) )
Voltage : SSTL 1.8v

I dunno if this last option if is the max voltage supported, or is it the one im using.

The 2 problems i guess they r if i can run more than 800mhz, and the voltage compatibility


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January 28, 2007 12:30:09 AM

Quote:
Anyone know what month of 2007 the nvidia 8900 will be out? Also, are there any LINKS that say anything about it? I wonder what the specs will be!


*Rubs crystal ball* Later :lol: 






thats funny.
January 28, 2007 12:41:42 AM

well? can i go for the 800Mhz? or should i stick with the 667mhz?
January 28, 2007 12:47:02 AM

Quote:
well? can i go for the 800Mhz? or should i stick with the 667mhz?


either should work just fine.
January 28, 2007 12:50:14 AM

Quote:
This is what i have on the mobo:

General Information :
Manufacturer : Intel Corporation (Intel)
Product : PRAGUE
Version : AAD12395-206
Serial Number : BTPR55203382
Support MP : Yes, 1 CPU(s)
Version MPS : 1.4

Chassis Information :
Manufacturer : Sony Corporation
Type : Desktop
Version :Chassis Version
Serial Number : Chassis Serial
Asset : no asset tag

My current RAM is:
Manufacturer : Infineon
Type : 2x (256 MB DDR2-SDRAM PC2-4300 (266 MHz) )
Voltage : SSTL 1.8v

I dunno if this last option if is the max voltage supported, or is it the one im using.

The 2 problems i guess they r if i can run more than 800mhz, and the voltage compatibility


Sensor Information :
Monitoring Chip : SMSC EMC6D103


AHH... I see... you bought a prebuilt SONY Viao.

Unfortunately there is really no way to know what you can do with the mobo in terms of upgrading...

Those motherboards are sold to Sony and Not to the general public... therefore you will not find support information on Intels site.

Also... they make it almost impossible to upgrade those things to anything meaningful... ie they are built for what goes into them.

I beleive you can increase the amount of RAM you have... maybe up to a gig or 2... but I would see if there is a local shop that might be willing to test that for you... by sticking some higher ram in it and see how it works.

But Hell... Ive never had one... I could be way off... I just wouldn't order something online that you probably will have to return.

Try CompUSA or GeekSquad... they are usually pretty helpful when it comes to things like that... just don't go in when they are busy :wink:
January 28, 2007 1:03:48 AM

Excaclty, its a prebuilt SONY Viao. not exaclty the BIOSTAR version i guess.
About the testing with compusa thing.. i cant do that cuz i dont live in the US. Im planning to but from an US site, but someone else will mail it to me, so if it doesnt work its pretty much a dead end, i wouldnt b able to return it that easily. so i dunno... but wouldnt i be ok with the 667mhz?


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either should work just fine.


Are you sure? i think the 800mhz exeeds my voltage specs. for example this one

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

:? :? :?
January 28, 2007 1:20:22 AM

Yeah... Since your mobo has that as its spec there should be no problem... you just need to make sure the RAM is supported.

To be SAFE... I think you should look at Kingston Value RAM... I know the 945P will support it becuase Kingston keeps coming up on my searches... so does Buffalo :? thats odd.

And HEY!! Kingston is usually cheaper... and considered to be some of the most reliable RAM you can get.

I would also suggest using These Kingstons or similar they are 2 x 512. Allowing you to run the RAM in Dual Channel Mode and get better performance overall over a single stick.

I see you looking at Tigerdirect... is there a particular reason... they usually don't have quite the selection that Newegg.com has and prices are somewhat higher at Tiger (For the most Part).
January 28, 2007 1:22:55 AM

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Yeah... Since your mobo has that as its spec there should be no problem... you just need to make sure the RAM is supported.

To be SAFE... I think you should look at Kingston Value RAM... I know the 945P will support it becuase Kingston keeps coming up on my searches... so does Buffalo :? thats odd.

And HEY!! Kingston is usually cheaper... and considered to be some of the most reliable RAM you can get.

I would also suggest using These Kingstons or similar they are 2 x 512. Allowing you to run the RAM in Dual Channel Mode and get better performance overall over a single stick.

I see you looking at Tigerdirect... is there a particular reason... they usually don't have quite the selection that Newegg.com has and prices are somewhat higher at Tiger (For the most Part).


no argument here. :wink:
January 28, 2007 1:50:44 AM

I see. i didnt know that 2x512 in dual channel would run better than a stick of 1 gig. I have 4 slots, and 2 are allrdy occupied (2x256) and well.. if i take a nother 2 with 2 x 512 i would be full. Or should i run the comp with only the 2x512 dual channel to improve performance? that way i would have 2 more slots for 2 gigs in dual channel in the future. Or might as well buy them (2x1 gig) right now instead of 2x512.. haha.

about the tigerdirect thing, i have seen better deals at TD.com, which one is more reliable tho? and also, it seems to me that TD more items than Newegg, but thats just me, dont really know much.
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