AMD barcelona is gonna release soon(if there are no delays), just wonder, when will we see an official K8L benchmark? Core 2 duo's benchmark was revealed around this time last year, follow by that, Core 2 duo was launch in Q3 last year as well. it really makes me wonder, will AMD delay K8L again? or AMD already have an engineering sample right now, but was to shy(coz it wasnt impressive enough to dethrone C2D) to let us see?
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Who needs benchmarks? They said it will be 40% faster than the competition. So just take the best bench out there now and add 40% to it. They wouldn't possibly be at all dishonest about it, so we already know what the benchmarks are. No sense in wasting peoples time with actually having to go through the work of building a system, documenting... etc.
They are just helping us out.
/sarcasm
They are just helping us out.
/sarcasm
but what they claim to what it will actually do will likely be a different story. Remember before Core 2 Duo came out , Intel were putting 5% on top of how much faster it was against the A64 , so it looked like the C2D was absolutely killing the A64. they were exaggerating the performance gains a fair bit.
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but what they claim to what it will actually do will likely be a different story. Remember before Core 2 Duo came out , Intel were putting 5% on top of how much faster it was against the A64 , so it looked like the C2D was absolutely killing the A64.
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Core Enchancements:
128 Bit floating point:
Applies only to Agena & Kuma
New SSE4A instructions:
Advanced Bit manipulation
MWAIT & MONITOR instructions
Misaligned SSE Mode
Additional Features:
Power management state invariant time stamp counter (TSC)
increased number of TLB Page entries
1GB large paging support
Physical address space increased to 48 bits
IMC Enhancements
DDR2 Dimms in products variations:
Socket AM2+: Dual Channel unbuffered 1066 support
Socket 1207+ Dual Channel unbuffered 1066 support
Memory Controller enhancements
Write Burst & DRAM prefetching performance improovements
DRAM writes can be buffered in the memory controller before being opportunistically bursted into DRAM controler to improve DRAM interface efficiency
Read prefetcher detects stride paterns and issues prefetch requests based on confidence level
Channel Interleaving
Roadmap:
Agena FX(K8L):
Q3 2007:
2.7-2.9GHz
4x512kB L2 cache
2MB shared L3 cache
Socket 1207+, 1207 compatible
4000MHz hypertransport Bus
TDP not determined yet
65nm SOI
Agena(K8L):
Q3 2007:
2.4-2.6GHz
4x512kB L2 cache
2MB shared L3 cache
Socket AM2+, AM2 compatible
4000MHz hypertransport Bus
TDP 125W
65nm SOI
Kuma(K8L):
Q3 2007:
2.0-2.9GHz
2x512kB L2 cache
2MB shared L3 cache
Socket AM2+, AM2 compatible
4000MHz hypertransport Bus
TDP 89W, 65W
65nm SOI
Kuma EE(K8L):
Q4 2007:
2.0-?GHz
2x512kB L2 cache
2MB shared L3 cache
Socket AM2+, AM2 compatible
4000MHz hypertransport Bus
TDP 35W
65nm SOI
Rana(K8 ):
Q4 2007:
2.1-2.3GHz
2x512kB L2 cache
No shared L3 cache
Socket AM2+, AM2 compatible
2000MHz hypertransport Bus, HTT1
TDP 65W
65nm SOI
Sources:
Chilehardware
Dailytech
qOJDO made this in another thread
128 Bit floating point:
Applies only to Agena & Kuma
New SSE4A instructions:
Advanced Bit manipulation
MWAIT & MONITOR instructions
Misaligned SSE Mode
Additional Features:
Power management state invariant time stamp counter (TSC)
increased number of TLB Page entries
1GB large paging support
Physical address space increased to 48 bits
IMC Enhancements
DDR2 Dimms in products variations:
Socket AM2+: Dual Channel unbuffered 1066 support
Socket 1207+ Dual Channel unbuffered 1066 support
Memory Controller enhancements
Write Burst & DRAM prefetching performance improovements
DRAM writes can be buffered in the memory controller before being opportunistically bursted into DRAM controler to improve DRAM interface efficiency
Read prefetcher detects stride paterns and issues prefetch requests based on confidence level
Channel Interleaving
Roadmap:
Agena FX(K8L):
Q3 2007:
2.7-2.9GHz
4x512kB L2 cache
2MB shared L3 cache
Socket 1207+, 1207 compatible
4000MHz hypertransport Bus
TDP not determined yet
65nm SOI
Agena(K8L):
Q3 2007:
2.4-2.6GHz
4x512kB L2 cache
2MB shared L3 cache
Socket AM2+, AM2 compatible
4000MHz hypertransport Bus
TDP 125W
65nm SOI
Kuma(K8L):
Q3 2007:
2.0-2.9GHz
2x512kB L2 cache
2MB shared L3 cache
Socket AM2+, AM2 compatible
4000MHz hypertransport Bus
TDP 89W, 65W
65nm SOI
Kuma EE(K8L):
Q4 2007:
2.0-?GHz
2x512kB L2 cache
2MB shared L3 cache
Socket AM2+, AM2 compatible
4000MHz hypertransport Bus
TDP 35W
65nm SOI
Rana(K8 ):
Q4 2007:
2.1-2.3GHz
2x512kB L2 cache
No shared L3 cache
Socket AM2+, AM2 compatible
2000MHz hypertransport Bus, HTT1
TDP 65W
65nm SOI
Sources:
Chilehardware
Dailytech
qOJDO made this in another thread
The benchmarks will be interesting to see, even though I'm behind the curve and won't get one right away. I'll be interested in seeing how the next generation AM2+ processors work in AM2 boards, if the next version of hypertransport makes any difference. Those benchmarks will interest me.
So far, the only benchmarks I've seen online that really reflect my real world experience with any graphics card or CPU is Oblivion. That's the one game that makes my system seem as extinct as a dodo. That's why I'm going dual core, that and games like Alan Wake that won't run on single cores later this year.
I'm building two Athlon X2 3800+ systems this winter. I ordered an MSI barebones from Newegg for $89.99 which has the K9N6SGM-V Then, the next day, I saw a bundle at Fry's with an Athlon X2 3800+ 65watt processor and the exact same motherboard. So, this month, I get the barebones up and running with 2 gigs DDR2 800 Corsair XMS and a new Seagate 400 gig drive. In March, I just get another X2 3800+, another 2 gigs of Corsair XMS and replace the motherboard, processor and RAM in my signature system.
What I'll probably do is put low end 8 or 12 pipeline graphics cards in both systems and wait till the 8600, 8700 or similar R600 DX10 parts arrive this summer. As far as the performance between the Athlon X2 series and the Core 2 Duo, I don't see them as radically different. The same will probably be true of K8L vs. Penryn. I'm just glad we have competition in the CPU market.
So far, the only benchmarks I've seen online that really reflect my real world experience with any graphics card or CPU is Oblivion. That's the one game that makes my system seem as extinct as a dodo. That's why I'm going dual core, that and games like Alan Wake that won't run on single cores later this year.
I'm building two Athlon X2 3800+ systems this winter. I ordered an MSI barebones from Newegg for $89.99 which has the K9N6SGM-V Then, the next day, I saw a bundle at Fry's with an Athlon X2 3800+ 65watt processor and the exact same motherboard. So, this month, I get the barebones up and running with 2 gigs DDR2 800 Corsair XMS and a new Seagate 400 gig drive. In March, I just get another X2 3800+, another 2 gigs of Corsair XMS and replace the motherboard, processor and RAM in my signature system.
What I'll probably do is put low end 8 or 12 pipeline graphics cards in both systems and wait till the 8600, 8700 or similar R600 DX10 parts arrive this summer. As far as the performance between the Athlon X2 series and the Core 2 Duo, I don't see them as radically different. The same will probably be true of K8L vs. Penryn. I'm just glad we have competition in the CPU market.
20% clock-for-clock different is radical in CPU world, when the comparison doesn't have a clock speed advantage, and the comparison used to be the highest performing CPU. Some people actually justified getting Pentium 4 Northwood for their extra 5-10% faster performance. 20% in one generation means there are just more people who see it important.
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Keep in mind that some people posting here don't speak english as thier first language.
That may or may not be the case here, but it should be duly noted.
gramma??? :?
Grampa's counter part :lol:
@ the Op We all expected a bench in dec.when AMD said they would demonstrate Barcelona.They demonstrated something running task manager; aside from that its all speculation.
that computer behind the task manager is perhaps a 4x4 machine afterall. or worst, an intel quad core machine. 8O
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NEWSFLASH
Microsoft announced today that due to slow consumer demand for their Vista operating system in the years since its introduction, it will now be replacing it with Ubuntu.
In other news:
AMD published its first Barcelona benchmark today and...
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