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January 30, 2007 1:26:45 PM

h1 2007 INTEL RULES
h2 2007 AMD K8L slaps up conroe amd rules
h1 2008 penryn slaps up K8L intel rules
h2 2008 intel still rules
h1 2009 .45 K8L2 slaps up Penryn
h2 2009 Nehalem slaps up K8L2
h1 2010 AMD 's next gen core slaps up Nehalem
h2 2010 INTEL's next gen slaps up AMD's next gen

any question?

hopefully if this is the case.. it will mean cheap , cool and faster CPU's for the masses....

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January 30, 2007 1:40:19 PM

I wish K8L get here sooner so the prices will drop farther than those Q2 prices (i.e. C2D E6600 for $150!)
January 30, 2007 1:42:38 PM

a c2d 6600 for 150 would make even the most frigid woman moist
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January 30, 2007 1:47:29 PM

An E6600 for $150? Good grief. What would Baron Matrix say about that one? :) 
January 30, 2007 1:54:27 PM

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An E6600 for $150? Good grief. What would Baron Matrix say about that one? :) 


I think BM would say " BUY INTEL "

he may root for the lil guy...but he wont pay more for less....
January 30, 2007 2:19:25 PM

I personally think that intel will have a healthy lead up till 2010. I really dont think that the K8L is going to beat out core 2 at all.
January 30, 2007 2:21:44 PM

There's one event that you neglected to mention in your forecast.

h1 2007 INTEL RULES
h2 2007 AMD K8L slaps up conroe amd rules
h1 2008 penryn slaps up K8L intel rules
h2 2008 intel still rules
h1 2009 .45 K8L2 slaps up Penryn
h2 2009 Nehalem slaps up K8L2
h1 2010 AMD 's next gen core slaps up Nehalem
h2 2010 (Dec. 21) Mayan calendar ends, Bill Gates nukes the world and takes us all to hell with him.

:lol: 
January 30, 2007 2:22:02 PM

I usually enjoy reading the forums here and often just take in the knowledge of others who are more in the scene than I am. I even enjoy a good flame war between Baron Matrix and the Intel boys. But IMO we do not need ANOTHER thread for people to play Nostradumbass and guess what will happen next.

I mean what evidence do you have?

Here is my well informed prediction:

2007 - Fab32 gets crushed by a godzilla like monster - Intel panics and instead of rebuilding the fab for 32nm chips they switch to making beef jerky. AMD RULZ

2008 Aliens land and introduce a new fully optical chip and manufacturing process through a company called Snarklefrag. AMD and Intel market share drops to less than 5% combined. SNARKLEFRAG RULZ

2009 The second coming of Christ happens thereby shutting down the Snarklefrag fab in Israel. JESUS RULZ

2010 Jesus is seen eyeing a VIA based computer and all the sudden no one but Satan himself will buy Intel or AMD. VIA RULZ

H2 2010 - The world ends

Que sera sera. Carpe Diem.

(Edited in response to Lordpope's comment that I don't have enough posts to tell the forum what it needs. So now it is IMO, take it or leave it.)
January 30, 2007 2:27:33 PM

Quote:
There's one event that you neglected to mention in your forecast.

h1 2007 INTEL RULES
h2 2007 AMD K8L slaps up conroe amd rules
h1 2008 penryn slaps up K8L intel rules
h2 2008 intel still rules
h1 2009 .45 K8L2 slaps up Penryn
h2 2009 Nehalem slaps up K8L2
h1 2010 AMD 's next gen core slaps up Nehalem
h2 2010 (Dec. 21) Mayan calendar ends, Bill Gates nukes the world and takes us all to hell with him.

:lol: 


lol .........Not if KIM JONG II beats him too it
January 30, 2007 2:31:10 PM

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I usually enjoy reading the forums here and often just take in the knowledge of others who are more in the scene than I am. I even enjoy a good flame war between Baron Matrix and the Intel boys. But do we really need ANOTHER thread for people to play Nostradumbass and guess what will happen next?

I mean what evidence do you have?

2007 - Fab32 gets crushed by a godzilla like monster - Intel panics and instead of rebuilding the fab for 32nm chips they switch to making beef jerky. AMD RULZ

2008 Aliens land and introduce a new fully optical chip and manufacturing process through a company called Snarklefrag. AMD and Intel market share drops to less than 5% combined. SNARKLEFRAG RULZ

2009 The second coming of Christ happens thereby shutting down the Snarklefrag fab in Israel. JESUS RULZ

2010 Jesus is seen eyeing a VIA based computer and all the sudden no one but Satan himself will buy Intel or AMD. VIA RULZ

H2 2010 - The world ends

Que sera sera. Carpe Diem.


with only 15 posts... u do not have the right to tell the forum WHAT WE NEED OR DONT NEED.......
January 30, 2007 2:35:59 PM

Post count shouldn't shroud a good point. 1 post or 40,000 posts, same thing was written, shouldn't effect it.
January 30, 2007 2:38:42 PM

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Post count shouldn't shroud a good point. 1 post or 40,000 posts, same thing was written, shouldn't effect it.


Thanks Tool for vote of confidence. But I decided to take my whoopin' like a man and edit my post to a IMO, lest I offend by stating my opinion as fact.
January 30, 2007 2:41:27 PM

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An E6600 for $150? Good grief. What would Baron Matrix say about that one? :) 


I think BM would say " BUY INTEL "

he may root for the lil guy...but he wont pay more for less....

Sure he would...he's already said that he's buying 4x4. :wink:
January 30, 2007 2:49:53 PM

I'm aware that this response is slightly off topic - but I'll write it anyway. It matches the topic line if not the discussion.

One reason we get long and somewhat repetitive threads like this is that there doesn't appear to be a website that organizes what is actually known about the upcoming PC roadmap. (at least that I know of - anybody know better?) It's actually quite hard to piece together a whole picture even 6 months out by searching the web. Tom's and other sites dutifully report the news, but just from reading today's version of Tom's, or Anandtech, or DailyTech one would have a very hard time even piecing together what is actually known about current developments, much less what those 'in the know' have educated guesses about. Even the games sites have 'future release' columns (proving that the fear of being wrong shouldn't stop anybody!)

When do we expect ATI's new chip? AMD's new CPU? When will Intel update the 975? When is DDR3 going to appear on MOBO's? WHen will MSrelease Vista SP1? Now, before I get flamed I know that many of these are not known, particularly Intel questions, but yet a lot is either known or can be approximated and it seems that someplace should organize it into a general picture. Is there such a place?
January 30, 2007 2:56:15 PM

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h2 2010 (Dec. 21) Mayan calendar ends, Bill Gates nukes the world and takes us all to hell with him.


Err...only problem is the Mayan calendar ends in 2012 not 2010.
January 30, 2007 2:58:28 PM

Im not an Intel fanboy, but the roadmap is probably more like

2007H1 Intel Rules/Conroe Kentsfield
2007H2 Intel Rules/Penryn
2008~~Intel Rules/Nehalem
2009~~Intel Rules/Gesher
2010?~ AMD (maybe) release K8L and R600....Lol....Meanwhile the new Nvidia 12 series chips have come out along with intels quantum processing technology

2090~~ Windows Vienna Released.
January 30, 2007 3:05:17 PM

We will have competition. All I see are rapid advances and great products for everyone.
January 30, 2007 3:42:53 PM

We live in hope.
January 30, 2007 3:46:21 PM

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Im not an Intel fanboy, but the roadmap is probably more like

2007H1 Intel Rules/Conroe Kentsfield
2007H2 Intel Rules/Penryn
2008~~Intel Rules/Nehalem
2009~~Intel Rules/Gesher
2010?~ AMD (maybe) release K8L and R600....Lol....Meanwhile the new Nvidia 12 series chips have come out along with intels quantum processing technology

2090~~ Windows Vienna Released.


U sound like world reknown INTEL FAN BOI FRED POHL
January 30, 2007 3:54:32 PM

It was supposed to be a humourous and harmless jape at AMDs delays with Barcelona and R600. As well as MS and their 2years late OS.

But nvm. I guess some of you don't understand the Brit sense of humour, sarcasm and irony.
January 30, 2007 4:44:00 PM

Where does the K10 fit in ???
January 30, 2007 5:17:48 PM

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you are wrong pope.
aside from this thread bieng an excercise in boredom. :evil: 
In order to make any prediction you have to be current on lithography process,and masking.

so why dont you explain to us what materials will validate this"prediction of yours"
what will the new metal depositions consist of,and what is the next phase of silicon enhancement.?


this prediction was not a prediction..... it was a hope that the crown is passed back and forth between INTEL and AMD

sorry it got u so emotional fan boi
January 30, 2007 5:38:36 PM

I shake my head at you sir.
January 30, 2007 5:41:22 PM

i look up 2 u oh great sick one

guide me to enlightenment
January 30, 2007 5:54:27 PM

You want my genuine opinion? Predicting tech cycles is a mugs game. Unless you are an analyst, don't waste your time with it.
January 30, 2007 6:18:20 PM

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i look up 2 u oh great sick one

guide me to enlightenment


did you have fun reporting me to rcpilot?


ok who is RCPILOT?

and report what?
January 30, 2007 6:19:37 PM

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a c2d 6600 for 150 would make even the most frigid woman moist
For god sakes, drop your prices Intel!
January 30, 2007 6:23:43 PM

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You want my genuine opinion? Predicting tech cycles is a mugs game. Unless you are an analyst, don't waste your time with it.


i have been on toms forum back in the delphi days....

and what i have learned

the only people who have a problem with predictions are

1. intel fans bois if the prediction doesnt make AMD look bad and INTEL look good

2 amd fan bois if the the prediction doesn't make INTEL look bad and AMD look good,

3. People who just like to flame ...


ofcourse the great ninja is none of the above.
January 30, 2007 6:36:28 PM

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i look up 2 u oh great sick one

guide me to enlightenment


did you have fun reporting me to rcpilot?


ok who is RCPILOT?

and report what?

just checking the available suspects. :twisted:

we need to hope for a performance deadlock,and for Intel to create new markets to retain its size.

trust me i think anyone who reports someone might as well just put on a dress and become a women

running to report someone is below dispicable
January 30, 2007 6:36:38 PM

Quote:
An E6600 for $150? Good grief. What would Baron Matrix say about that one? :) 


I think BM would say " BUY INTEL "

he may root for the lil guy...but he wont pay more for less....

:wink: yes, indeed. But not Intel stock!
January 30, 2007 6:47:44 PM

hey are u the same MANDRAKE thasts FRED TROHL and BMO use to call MANDORK?
January 30, 2007 7:10:47 PM

You know what processor I will be buying...

Whatever has the performance crown at the time

Intel or AMD

So it doesn't really matter, and I think most of the forum would agree.
January 30, 2007 7:24:43 PM

Quote:
An E6600 for $150? Good grief. What would Baron Matrix say about that one? :) 


I think BM would say " BUY INTEL "

he may root for the lil guy...but he wont pay more for less....

:wink: yes, indeed. But not Intel stock!

BM probably wouldn't say anything because he has a modified CPU that will incinerate itself if he ever types BUY INTEL.
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January 30, 2007 7:37:22 PM

Here is enlightenment.
January 30, 2007 7:48:50 PM

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trust me i think anyone who reports someone might as well just put on a dress and become a women

running to report someone is below dispicable


Say what you want about reporting, but seriously what backwards culture do you come from where below dispicalble = being a woman?
January 30, 2007 7:50:34 PM

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Here is enlightenment.


Brilliant! I used enlightenment for a few months. It's funny because after using it for a while, a friend showed me Mac OSX, and I thought Mac had copied a good thing.
January 30, 2007 8:03:11 PM

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trust me i think anyone who reports someone might as well just put on a dress and become a women

running to report someone is below dispicable


Say what you want about reporting, but seriously what backwards culture do you come from where below dispicalble = being a woman?

foolio

dont start fires in the ocean
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January 30, 2007 8:14:21 PM

Quote:
h1 2007 INTEL RULES
h2 2007 AMD K8L slaps up conroe amd rules
h1 2008 penryn slaps up K8L intel rules
h2 2008 intel still rules
h1 2009 .45 K8L2 slaps up Penryn
h2 2009 Nehalem slaps up K8L2
h1 2010 AMD 's next gen core slaps up Nehalem
h2 2010 INTEL's next gen slaps up AMD's next gen

any question?

hopefully if this is the case.. it will mean cheap , cool and faster CPU's for the masses....


going by the facts, im in doubt with AMD:

AMD 65nm speaks for its self - slower, no ground breaking thermal or performance changes, and delays etc

K8L - no benchmarks, and any changes will be copying and toward Conroe (shared L2, 4 ipc etc) - in the end the performance may be the same as a AMD Athlon 1400 vs Intel Pentium 3 1400 (tualatin), Intels P6 tech has always had an advantage in performance and power.

Marketing BS - there loosing and need something for people to hope for, hence all the marketing BS all over the place, hows a similar chip (spec wise, to conroe) supposed to beat a conroe like even K8 vs Netburst/P4 wasnt much of a gap (performance atleast)
January 31, 2007 9:50:55 AM

Verndewd, you got me. I confess. It was me who turned you in to the Fuzz. I was so pi$$ed off at your rap being better than mine that I decided to off ya. :lol: 
February 2, 2007 9:05:41 PM

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There's one event that you neglected to mention in your forecast.

h1 2007 INTEL RULES
h2 2007 AMD K8L slaps up conroe amd rules
h1 2008 penryn slaps up K8L intel rules
h2 2008 intel still rules
h1 2009 .45 K8L2 slaps up Penryn
h2 2009 Nehalem slaps up K8L2
h1 2010 AMD 's next gen core slaps up Nehalem
h2 2010 (Dec. 21) Mayan calendar ends. Becuase Windows rules the earth, the whole earth has one catastrophic BSOD and crashes.

:lol: 


Gaze into the crystal ball and we see....

h1 2007 INTEL RULES
h2 2007 AMD K8L slaps up conroe amd rules
h1 2008 penryn slaps up K8L intel rules
h2 2008 Microsoft buys INTEL
h1 2009 Microsoft issues auto update patch for all os that only allows genuine Microsoft processors to work on Microsoft OS
h2 2009 Microsoft institutes monthly license fee for OS
h1 2010 AMD folds
h2 2010 Microsoft aquires US government after shutdown of OS operation by US government over deliquent license fees. Bill Gates proclaimed supreme ruler of the new country of Vista.


OOPS that it for predictions dropped the ball and it broke maybe I could download a patch though.
February 2, 2007 9:37:15 PM

2010:
intel does not produce an 80 core processor

2011: Amd opens its doors in Upstate New York, to a fully ramped fab

Thats about all im certian of
February 3, 2007 12:42:20 AM

Quote:
2010:
intel does not produce an 80 core processor

2011: Amd opens its doors in Upstate New York, to a fully ramped fab

Thats about all im certian of


sorry to crush your dream

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20060926233540...

How is that crushing my dream? I said produce, not test a prototype.
February 3, 2007 3:57:16 AM

Quote:
An E6600 for $150? Good grief. What would Baron Matrix say about that one? :) 


I think BM would say " BUY INTEL "

he may root for the lil guy...but he wont pay more for less....

Nawww. He'd say:

ALL HAIL THE DUOPOLY!
February 3, 2007 4:37:48 AM

Quote:
Im not an Intel fanboy, but the roadmap is probably more like

2007H1 Intel Rules/Conroe Kentsfield
2007H2 Intel Rules/Penryn
2008~~Intel Rules/Nehalem
2009~~Intel Rules/Gesher
2010?~ AMD (maybe) release K8L and R600....Lol....Meanwhile the new Nvidia 12 series chips have come out along with intels quantum processing technology

2090~~ Windows Vienna Released.

change that to Windows Matrix-Catasrophe Unlimited Ultimate (MCUU )
where they make your own personal Oracle to fight Billgates(Smith) :p 
February 3, 2007 5:03:54 AM

Quote:
I usually enjoy reading the forums here and often just take in the knowledge of others who are more in the scene than I am. I even enjoy a good flame war between Baron Matrix and the Intel boys. But IMO we do not need ANOTHER thread for people to play Nostradumbass and guess what will happen next.

I mean what evidence do you have?

Here is my well informed prediction:

2007 - Fab32 gets crushed by a godzilla like monster - Intel panics and instead of rebuilding the fab for 32nm chips they switch to making beef jerky. AMD RULZ

2008 Aliens land and introduce a new fully optical chip and manufacturing process through a company called Snarklefrag. AMD and Intel market share drops to less than 5% combined. SNARKLEFRAG RULZ

2009 The second coming of Christ happens thereby shutting down the Snarklefrag fab in Israel. JESUS RULZ

2010 Jesus is seen eyeing a VIA based computer and all the sudden no one but Satan himself will buy Intel or AMD. VIA RULZ

H2 2010 - The world ends

Que sera sera. Carpe Diem.

(Edited in response to Lordpope's comment that I don't have enough posts to tell the forum what it needs. So now it is IMO, take it or leave it.)

I love satire, too true my friend. :p 
February 3, 2007 8:07:22 AM

At his first press conference after winning a landslide election, US President Bill Gates and Vice President Donald Rumsfeld announce plans to make the world safe for Vista.

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August 28, 2009 3:25:10 AM

AMD can't rule in the world of making processors, as the Intel is concern they produce higher than AMD like Dual Core and other core that are really works and faster than AMD. For AMD, try to make it higher as possible
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August 28, 2009 3:49:45 AM

super necro of lord poop.
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August 28, 2009 3:57:35 AM

hey naga_20, how many pages did you go through? this thread is two yrs old!!!

the forums aren't everything
August 28, 2009 5:05:50 AM

Yea, saw the OP and was wondering????
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