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January 30, 2007 4:43:52 PM

Ok so assuming the info posted on Amdzone.com in regards to the x2 3600+ being able to overclock to 3.1 gHz is correct, wouldn't this be the new KING of the BUDGET build? Witness...

AMD x2 3600+ $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Epox Mobo $139
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

X1950PRO 256MB $169
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

1gb ram $115
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Freezer 64 Pro $29
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...

plan to recycle my Hard drive, keyboard, monitor, case, etc... $567 +shipping for 3.1 gHz!!! :D  forget those $3,000 builds for only a few hundred mHz more!
this price war duopoly madness is AWESOME!! hard to argue with those numbers, and an overclock like that should hold until Q4 '07 /Q1 '08 when the new AMD chips come out AND their prices drop a bit, EH?

Everyone else please feel free to post critiques, how low can it go?!
Also, will this be capable of running BF2 / Battlefield 2142 / World o' Warcraft with relatively high settings?

Thank you AMD/Intel :twisted:
January 30, 2007 4:50:49 PM

Ill bet you a thounsand dollars you cant get to 3.1ghz using the stock cooler.
January 30, 2007 4:57:44 PM

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Everyone else please feel free to post critiques, how low can it go?!
Also, will this be capable of running BF2 / Battlefield 2142 / World o' Warcraft with relatively high settings?


Find.... solid.... info.....

That's my #1 tip.

Tip #2? Find solid info, using a website which doesn't have the name of the manufacturer concerned in the URL.

Tip #3? Repeat the first two tips a few times.

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January 30, 2007 4:59:29 PM

@ apt 403 : ok tru statement

@ synergy: I have been doing a bit of reading on their review, it seems legit. I.E. - I don't think they would risk the reputation of their website in the name of AMD fanboi-ism - they really have nothing to gain except.... website traffic? Street cred?
I have to say I belive them, and their report.
but i understand where your coming from and it is a valid point

The better question is did they get some sort of Engeneering sample that overclocks like it was made by alien technology... in that case you could say the blame for deceptive practices goes on AMD - not amdzone.com
January 30, 2007 5:11:19 PM

Pentium D 805 $79
Biostar TForce965PT $105

..now under $500 and still smokin fast when OC'd..
January 30, 2007 5:14:32 PM

I bet 1000 dollars you cant get to 3.1ghz on that cpu with liquid cooling, phase change, or a bucket of ice. Good luck on that one. I recommend a opty 165 over that x2 3800. It will be easier to overclock. I also recommend the 7800gt or the 7900gt in place of that 1950pro and I am an old ATI guy. I have had the 9600, 9700pro, 9800xt, x800xt, but the nvidia 7 series kicks ass for the money. I have had the 7800gt and two 7900gt's. They are worth the few extra dollars over the 1950pro.
January 30, 2007 5:18:11 PM

x1950pros spank 7800gt's...
January 30, 2007 5:29:26 PM

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x1950pros spank 7800gt's...

On most timedemos, yes.. but THG VGA charts show the the x1950pro and 7900gt as basically even.. ATI is a few frames better in some resolutions, nVidia is a few frames better in others. Considering it's hard to even find new 7800GTs.. why bother mentioning them? They're not a competitor to the x1950pro.
January 30, 2007 5:38:05 PM

ya i gotta say according to tomshardware vga charts, it looks like the 1950PRO out guns the 7800gt and 7900gs

if i could find the 7800GTX or 7900GT with a rebate this would make it more interesting
January 30, 2007 5:38:19 PM

If your video card is not Direct X10 then you are making a huge mistake.
January 30, 2007 5:44:41 PM

Indeed. Generally the X1950Pro performs on par if not a little better than a 7900GT depending on the game. It can also be had for less money.

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If your video card is not Direct X10 then you are making a huge mistake.

Show the OP a DX10 video card they can pick up for $169 now and correct their error.
January 30, 2007 5:51:39 PM

AMDZONE is in no way a site that can be used as an authorative source.
Sorry, but its a "FAN" site.

3.1Ghz is not genuinley feasible on those chips.
Test 1000 chips and you may get one to run at that speed for short times.
Prepare to RMA it after 15mins if you do get that speed.

You also failed to mention your Power Supply.
Depending on what you have, dont assume it will power that Video card.

If at all possible, I would strongly recommend waiting until March to build.
The Mid-Range DX10 cards should be coming out that will likely smoke the card you selected and at a lower price point.

Even if you stick with DX9 for gaming, the card should be more powreful.
January 30, 2007 5:58:47 PM

Quote:
Ok so assuming the info posted on Amdzone.com in regards to the x2 3600+ being able to overclock to 3.1 gHz is correct, wouldn't this be the new KING of the BUDGET build? Witness...

AMD x2 3600+ $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Epox Mobo $139
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

X1950PRO 256MB $169
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

1gb ram $115
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Freezer 64 Pro $29
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...

plan to recycle my Hard drive, keyboard, monitor, case, etc... $567 +shipping for 3.1 gHz!!! :D  forget those $3,000 builds for only a few hundred mHz more!
this price war duopoly madness is AWESOME!! hard to argue with those numbers, and an overclock like that should hold until Q4 '07 /Q1 '08 when the new AMD chips come out AND their prices drop a bit, EH?

Everyone else please feel free to post critiques, how low can it go?!
Also, will this be capable of running BF2 / Battlefield 2142 / World o' Warcraft with relatively high settings?

Thank you AMD/Intel :twisted:


I would not say 3.1ghz, but 2.5ghz easily though. Nice budget build however from your standpoint since you are recycling things.
January 30, 2007 6:02:41 PM

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If at all possible, I would strongly recommend waiting until March to build.
The Mid-Range DX10 cards should be coming out that will likely smoke the card you selected and at a lower price point.
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Doesn't that require Vista (+100-300$ or so) and games that support DX10.
January 30, 2007 6:33:41 PM

Smokin' hot as well.
January 30, 2007 6:41:45 PM

Nope, it does not require Vista.

Try snipping the whole post with the reference to DX9.
These cards will be next Gen cards that run both DX9 and DX10 faster.

These cards will not require Vista.

They will however provide more performance and in regards to NVIDIA likely cooler.
January 30, 2007 6:52:35 PM

@ Mrsbytch

Well... i did find this Pen Star Systems

So i have no idea who these guys are, but the important part is they reviewed the x2 3600+ AND they bought the chip off newegg.com

http://www.penstarsys.com/reviews/cpu/amd/x2_3600_am2/x...

2.74 gHz, meh, the GOOD part is that a 65nm part built by amd is actually overclockin properly... Intel's chips go 70,80,90% faster than stock is it really that crazy for an AMD chip to FINALLY (after months and months of crap) clock 60% faster....really?

either way i gotta say i am really tempted to pull the trigger on a $560 / 2.7 gHz rig
January 30, 2007 7:06:08 PM

well instead of X1950 pro you could get the GT with all same stuff except clock speeds are abit lower but you can overclock that back - that would save a little bit of money say $60 maybe more
January 30, 2007 7:06:47 PM

When it comes to trying to run those games on high settings with only 1GB of ram, its not happening. you'll need 2. if you wait till march, you'll have access to more versitile DX10 cards. you wont need vista right away but when the time comes, you couldnt have anything better than a DX10 capable card to run it. like every one else said 3.1Ghz is not gonna happen on that chip. last, if your power supply doest have at least one 6pin pice lead on it, dont try to run a card that requires one. your system will most likely restart every time you start a game.
January 30, 2007 7:14:54 PM

tbh any gamer going vista even if just for dx10 needs a slap as vista is the most corrupt operating system to date, just go read the articles about its new security and how they basicly can watch your every move tbh fuck that xp will do me.
January 30, 2007 8:22:56 PM



I just skimmed through this thread, so maybe somebody else already said this. According to newegg, the 3600 x2 "Must be purchased as a combo." So, it looks like you'll either be selling an extra motherboard, or scrapping the EPoX motherboard idea.

Here's a link to the combo-list.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductComboList.asp?Item...

I have to say, $150-180 for a budget dual core and a motherboard isn't bad.

Oh, and BTW, WoW and BF2/2142 like more than 1GB of memory.
January 30, 2007 8:29:45 PM

Buy now buy AMD, wait until March/April then an E4300 or E6300 is your ticket with a 650i board.

Much better upgrade path as the full functionality for the AM3 chips doesn't exist in the AM2 socket boards even though they will be pin compatible.

As for DX10 if you were a game developer you would really want to release a game that worked on two cards and an OS that doesn't exist. OOPS that right Vista did go on sale TODAY but suffice it to say untill there is a base of hardware and OS capable of DX10 there won't be a game sold that requires DX10. My personal bet is it will be 2008 before we see somebody stick their neck out for a DX10 game.
January 30, 2007 9:16:33 PM

wow, this is creepy similar to me. I'm doing basically the same exact thing, except intel instead lol.

I'm getting the same RAM, same GPU, and the freezer 7 pro instead of the 64


but CPU/mobo wise I'm getting the e4300 with the asus P5N-E (nforce 650i)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...




one thing I'd say, for both of us, is that we need to get a second GB of RAM asap.




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Indeed. Generally the X1950Pro performs on par if not a little better than a 7900GT depending on the game. It can also be had for less money.

and the jetway x1950pro that me and OP are getting has beefed up pipelines!
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