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January 30, 2007 5:47:10 PM

Hello,

Here's my situation:

I'm trying to drive a dell 2407fpw at 19x12 but for the time being I don't want to spend much as I will upgrade to dx 10 when and if there are a few worthwhile titles that use it.

I'm fairly sure that a single 7600gt won't be able to do it at high quality - but what about 2 of them in SLi? I can 2x7600gt for the same price (230 CDN) as a 7950gt (256MB) - will they perform better, and will they be good enough for mid-high quality gaming at 19x12?

Any other options which might be better? I don't need to have the absolute best but I do want it to look decent at 19x12 and also hopefully be able to sell the card when upgrading to dx 10.

Rest of the system: Asus P5N-E 650i SLI // E6400 // Raptor 74GB // 7200.10 500GB // 2GB OCZ Platinum Rev2 // OCZ GameXstream 700W // Enermax Phoenix

Thanks for the help!

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January 30, 2007 6:15:52 PM

It's ALWAYS better to have 1 highend card than 2 midrange/lowend cards.
January 30, 2007 6:24:10 PM

Thanks for answering, but that wasn't useful.

Of course I know that's the prevailing wisdom, and it applies in most cases -

but both the 7950gt and the 7600gt are midrange at best right now, and with requirement of driving a 19x12 monitor, I'm not sure that 2 7600gts won't do it better.

Mind you I also said a 256mb 7950gt - a 512mb will cost me more.

I guess I should have asked if 2 7600gts will drive 19x12 in most games (past, not future) better than a single card that costs less than 300 (CDN). Or better yet, can someone point me to some benchmarks of 7600gt in sli?
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January 30, 2007 6:40:34 PM

How wasn't that useful? That rule definitely applies here. A single 7950GT 256MB will most definitly out perform 2 7600GTs in SLI.

Benchmarks:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html

BTW the more money spent on the 512MB version isn't really worth it, as it only amounts to a couple more FPS.
January 30, 2007 6:54:20 PM

8O I stand corrected

though that chart goes up only to 1600x1200.. I wonder what sort of crappy framerates I'm in for at 19x12.. though I guess the pixel count is only 1.2375 times more
January 30, 2007 7:00:46 PM

First, you didn't say what type of games you'll be playing.

Almost every benchmark out there has a very fine line between ATI preference and Nvidia preference.

Game engines that prefer Nvidia chips will run better in SLI.

However, games that prefer ATI chips will not only perform better on ATI single-card solutions, but they'll outperform Nvidia's SLI solutions as well. (Look at Oblivion benchmarks where an X1900XT out performs a 7950GT SLI 2x cards.)

Secondly, for your budget you shouldn't limit yourself to Nvidia cards, unless you're going with an 8000 series card.

Once you hit the 175$ price range, ATI has better cards for every budget up to $300+. At $150-175 you can get an X1900GT. It outperforms a 7600GT. At $200-220 you can either get an X1950 Pro or a 256MB X1900XT. The X1900XT is way better, but also runs hotter and has more power consumption. Once you get to $250-300. If you stay under $300, an X1950XT is your winner.

However, if you plan on playing any games that use the Doom 3 engine, Nvidia will out-perform in those games.
January 30, 2007 7:20:40 PM

Don't go with Nvidia right now unless you can afford the 8800GTS or better.
January 30, 2007 8:47:48 PM

After having a good look at the benches, seems like nVidia and ATI solutions perform more or less on par for a given price range, give a take a few fps depending on the game. Not too concerned about that.

What type of games? For now it's WOW and CoH mostly, and I want to be able to play them nicely at 19x12 until something dx10 blows me away and I go out and get something that can run it. Though I'm not sure now from those benches whether I'll get decent framerates out of anythings less than $300.. which might make it worthwhile to get an 880GTS or GTX and have done with it for (hopefully) 2 years or so.

As for budget.. there is no budget.. just best price/performance/longevity ratio above a midrange baseline without throwing money away
January 30, 2007 9:07:26 PM

Well then, i think we have a winner (8800gtx)
January 30, 2007 9:22:20 PM

8) Damnit I really was hoping that wouldn't be the answer :roll:
January 30, 2007 9:33:27 PM

Sorry, in that case, if you're looking for something in the $200-$300 price range get the x1950xt, i have one and its amazing. It runs COH at max with ultra textures and highest model detail with no slow downs.
January 30, 2007 10:39:36 PM

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Sorry, in that case, if you're looking for something in the $200-$300 price range get the x1950xt, i have one and its amazing. It runs COH at max with ultra textures and highest model detail with no slow downs.

... at 800x600...

:wink:
January 30, 2007 10:47:12 PM

Nah son, 1280x1024. Although its overclocked to 680/1000 8)
January 30, 2007 11:55:24 PM

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After having a good look at the benches, seems like nVidia and ATI solutions perform more or less on par for a given price range, give a take a few fps depending on the game. Not too concerned about that.

What type of games? For now it's WOW and CoH mostly, and I want to be able to play them nicely at 19x12 until something dx10 blows me away and I go out and get something that can run it. Though I'm not sure now from those benches whether I'll get decent framerates out of anythings less than $300.. which might make it worthwhile to get an 880GTS or GTX and have done with it for (hopefully) 2 years or so.

As for budget.. there is no budget.. just best price/performance/longevity ratio above a midrange baseline without throwing money away


I don't know what price range or benchmarks you were looking at, but you're either blind or you're skewing the benchmarks to make Nvidia look better because you're a fan of Nvidia.

Read this one more time, in fine print.

Once you hit $160, there is no card from Nvidia that will beat its ATI counterpart until you hit $369 where the 8800 GTS is.

The X1950XT smokes the 7950GT in EVERY benchmark. Except maybe Doom 3 and that's only because Carmack favors OpenGL and Nvidia solutions so most of his game engines run better on NVidia cards.

Below that budget is the lol7900GT or the 7900GS. Against those cards you have the X1900XT or the 1950Pro. Both of those ATI cards smoke the Nvidia cards. Pretty badly too.

Below that you have the 7600GT and the X1900GT. The 1900GT, yet again, smokes its competition. The 7600GT is more on competition level with the X1800GTO as far as performance goes, but its cost is higher.

The only reason I have a 7600GT is because it had a $65 rebate that made it 90$ shipped.

An 8800GTS/GTX isn't guaranteed to even last longer than 8 months.

There's no guarantees with a new DX around the corner.
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January 31, 2007 1:24:46 AM

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Don't go with Nvidia right now unless you can afford the 8800GTS or better.


Agreed

Go with a X1950PRO or a 8800GTS, depending on how much you want to spend.
January 31, 2007 2:43:16 AM

Wait a minute -

First of all, I'm looking at pushing 1920x1200, not 1280x1024, and was looking for specific info on how solutions perform at that resolution.

Second, I'm no fool and certainly no nVidia fanboy.

Up north here, you can't find a 1900xt for less than $330ish, that is the absolute lowest price anywhere (and for the the 256mb versions), whereas the 7950gt can be found for less than $300 and as low as $230 for the 256MB version. The cards aren't comparable as far as I'm concerned.

As for the 7600gt, yes, the 1900gt is better, but you said it yourself, the 7600 is cheaper by a wide marging and therefore again NOT COMPARABLE. You can buy a 7900gs for the price of a 1900gt and they perform - about the same

Really what I want to know is whether I can get a low cost solution that'll drive 1920x1200 reasonably well, or I should just forget about that and go whole hog :wink: More of a subjective thing than a benchmark thing I guess. You really think an 8800gtx will only last 8 months??? Your definition of "last" is quite extreme 8O
January 31, 2007 3:29:24 AM

X1950Pro perfect mid-high-end card for those that need a new card with great bang for the buck.

I'd buy one if i didn't have my X1900 already, viva la R600
January 31, 2007 2:57:09 PM

Either the 8800GTS or the 8800GTX should easily last you more than 8 months.
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