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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
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>I had a MVP nominate himself, so any MVP that wants or needs to be inducted
>into the Microscum MVP Hall of Shame, please feel free to drop me an email!
>
> So without any further ado, the newest inductee to the Microscum MVP Hall
> of Shame, by his own request, is:
>
> Robert Moir - MicroMoron!
> http://microscum.com/rmoir/
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> Congratulations Robert!
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Do you "really" have to be an MVP to get nominated (-;
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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
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>I had a MVP nominate himself, so any MVP that wants or needs to be inducted
>into the Microscum MVP Hall of Shame, please feel free to drop me an email!
>
> So without any further ado, the newest inductee to the Microscum MVP Hall
> of Shame, by his own request, is:
>
> Robert Moir - MicroMoron!
> http://microscum.com/rmoir/
>
> Congratulations Robert!
>
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> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
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Kurt "never" trolls (-:
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"Bill Drake" <bdrake@telus.net> wrote in message
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> As what, an MVP or a troll? <smirk>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
> kurttrail wrote:
>> Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) wrote:
>>> Do you "really" have to be an MVP to get nominated (-;
>>
>> Well, who do you have in mind?
>
>
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It's so hard to resist... 
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> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> You were sold the licenses, not the software.
>>
>
>
> Now, Colin, don't try to confuse Kurt with the facts. His mind is made
> up.
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:21:10 +0100, Alias wrote:
>>
>> Let me see if I can make it clearer. Go to the web sites of Walmart,
>> Best Buy, Longhorn Ass Kicking Trailer Park Computers, Sears, whatever,
>> and try and find a place to click on to buy a licence. You will ONLY
>> find a place to click on called "software". For some reason, when people
>> click on that and add XP Home to their shopping cart, they think they
>> are buying SOFTWARE. Do you understand me now or do you need me to go a
>> little slower?
>
> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/pro [...] 951%3A3954
From the same page "You are here: Home Page › Electronics › Computers ›
Software"
It also states: The purchaser of this *software*.
This page says nothing about a licence
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/pro [...] ll=1957319
I rest my case. How many Walmart clerks explain anything but "that will be
$119.98. please"?
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> Seems to me that WalMart is making the XP information quite clear to
> anyone that can read. They even provide the link to the System Builders
> Site for licensing information!
>
> below is an excerpt copied directly from the WalMart site:
>
> Microsoft XP Pro IS designed for businesses of any size and individuals
> upgrading from Windows 98 SE, Me, NT 4.0 or 2000 Professional.
>
> * This OEM version is intended for system builders only and cannot be
> transferred to another PC once it is installed. * The purchaser of
> this software is required to comply with the terms of the System
> Builder license , including the responsibility of providing all end
> user support for the software. * includes 2-button mouse
>
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:33:42 +0100, Alias wrote:
>>
>> This page says nothing about a licence
>> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/pro [...] ll=1957319
>>
>> I rest my case. How many Walmart clerks explain anything but "that will
>> be
>> $119.98. please"?
>
> So, I don't understand you - you find an instance where WalMart, like
> other vendors is not providing full disclosure about a product that it
> sells, where the product manufacturer does provide this information, and
> you still want to slam the Manufacturer? Why are you not going after
> WalMart, Sears, and the places that market the manufacturers product
> incorrectly?
>
> You've clearly pointed out a flaw in the sales model of many companies,
> but not in Microsofts.
Um, Microsoft *licences* these stores to sell their products and you say
Microsoft has nothing to do with the scam? Please, pull the other one, it
has bells on it. Does Microsoft have a store where they say they sell
licences instead of software?
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 05:46:03 +1100, wrote:
>>
>> Least spain doesn't have state sactioned murder.
>
> Yes they do, and have had it for decades - you just are not privy to the
> information. Every country has one or more teams that provides that
> service, except for maybe France - they have some other country provide
> the service for them :-)
Bullshit. There's no death penalty in any of the EU country's penal code.
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:55:59 +0100, Alias wrote:
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> newsan.2005.02.21.18.48.41.446132@nowhere.lan...
>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:33:42 +0100, Alias wrote:
>>>
>>> This page says nothing about a licence
>>> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/pro [...] ll=1957319
>>>
>>> I rest my case. How many Walmart clerks explain anything but "that will
>>> be
>>> $119.98. please"?
>>
>> So, I don't understand you - you find an instance where WalMart, like
>> other vendors is not providing full disclosure about a product that it
>> sells, where the product manufacturer does provide this information, and
>> you still want to slam the Manufacturer? Why are you not going after
>> WalMart, Sears, and the places that market the manufacturers product
>> incorrectly?
>>
>> You've clearly pointed out a flaw in the sales model of many companies,
>> but not in Microsofts.
>
> Um, Microsoft *licences* these stores to sell their products and you say
> Microsoft has nothing to do with the scam? Please, pull the other one, it
> has bells on it. Does Microsoft have a store where they say they sell
> licences instead of software?
I bet if you call MS and indicate the issue you have, and then call
WalMart that you might get something done about it, but I suspect that all
you really want to do is bitch and let others do the work for you.
MS sells vendors products to sell to customers, if they (the
stores) misrepresent the product to the consumers, it's not the fault of
the manufacturer, it's the fault of the store selling the product. I'm
sure that the purchasing agent for WalMart is actually aware of what they
are doing/selling and they are marketing the product as they see fit -
until someone takes them to task for it.
It was clear about the OEM product that the user MUST comply with the
systems builders licensing - right on the WalMart site even.
If you don't like how WalMart does business take it to WalMart, MS doesn't
have anything to do with it.
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MS is complicit in stealing from it's customers. Mostly because they don't care.
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message newsan.2005.02.21.18.48.41.446132@nowhere.lan...
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:33:42 +0100, Alias wrote:
>>
>> This page says nothing about a licence
>> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/pro [...] ll=1957319
>>
>> I rest my case. How many Walmart clerks explain anything but "that will be
>> $119.98. please"?
>
> So, I don't understand you - you find an instance where WalMart, like
> other vendors is not providing full disclosure about a product that it
> sells, where the product manufacturer does provide this information, and
> you still want to slam the Manufacturer? Why are you not going after
> WalMart, Sears, and the places that market the manufacturers product
> incorrectly?
>
> You've clearly pointed out a flaw in the sales model of many companies,
> but not in Microsofts.
>
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:47:43 -0500, Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) wrote:
>>
>> What Alias is getting at is that all web sites, and stores, sell you
>> software. Don't they all have software departments, T.V. departments,
>> appliance departments etc.
>>
>> Yet after they have sold you the "software", they try to tell you that
>> you
>> have bought a license. Well, people DID NOT buy it in the license
>> department - did they?
>
> And the simple fact is that the store that sold it didn't provide full
> disclosure while MS does clearly provide it. Maybe you should be
> complaining to the stores since they are the ones not providing the
> information to the customers - MS clearly makes this information available
> to any that ask/look for it.
Microsoft sells direct? Since when? Those stores are representing Microsoft
and Microsoft doesn't do anything to correct them. It's called scamming.
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:00:14 +0100, Alias wrote:
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> newsan.2005.02.21.18.50.16.935596@nowhere.lan...
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 05:46:03 +1100, wrote:
>>>
>>> Least spain doesn't have state sactioned murder.
>>
>> Yes they do, and have had it for decades - you just are not privy to the
>> information. Every country has one or more teams that provides that
>> service, except for maybe France - they have some other country provide
>> the service for them :-)
>
> Bullshit. There's no death penalty in any of the EU country's penal code.
Care to show me where to mentioned "Death Penalty"? You clearly stated
"Sanctioned Murder". If you intended to say "Death Penalty" you should
have said it - as one who so often complains about content of messages.
Spain sanctions murder/eliminations all the time, you just don't see it
because you don't belong to the covert groups that are involved in it.
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Australia doesn't. It is prohibited by law after ASIS kidnapped a hotel of Australians in melbourne as a training exercise. The police weren't impressed with people running around melbourne with guns kidnapping people at random. The people kidnapped weren't impressed either. Noone was so they lost the power to conduct covert missions and can only spy.
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message newsan.2005.02.21.18.50.16.935596@nowhere.lan...
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 05:46:03 +1100, wrote:
>>
>> Least spain doesn't have state sactioned murder.
>
> Yes they do, and have had it for decades - you just are not privy to the
> information. Every country has one or more teams that provides that
> service, except for maybe France - they have some other country provide
> the service for them :-)
>
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:02:03 +0100, Alias wrote:
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> newsan.2005.02.21.18.51.45.558362@nowhere.lan...
>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:47:43 -0500, Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) wrote:
>>>
>>> What Alias is getting at is that all web sites, and stores, sell you
>>> software. Don't they all have software departments, T.V. departments,
>>> appliance departments etc.
>>>
>>> Yet after they have sold you the "software", they try to tell you that
>>> you
>>> have bought a license. Well, people DID NOT buy it in the license
>>> department - did they?
>>
>> And the simple fact is that the store that sold it didn't provide full
>> disclosure while MS does clearly provide it. Maybe you should be
>> complaining to the stores since they are the ones not providing the
>> information to the customers - MS clearly makes this information available
>> to any that ask/look for it.
>
> Microsoft sells direct? Since when? Those stores are representing Microsoft
> and Microsoft doesn't do anything to correct them. It's called scamming.
There YOU go again, you bitch about people taking things out of context
and content, then you do it - I never said anything about MS selling
direct, but they actually do sell direct.
The store is the one doing the misrepresenting, MS has nothing to do with
it. Sort of like every other product anyone sells that they purchase from
a manufacturer - or are you just trolling against MS since you don't seem
to understand that WalMart chooses what to state/say on it's website?
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
newsan.2005.02.21.19.03.40.61665@nowhere.lan...
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:00:14 +0100, Alias wrote:
>
>>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> newsan.2005.02.21.18.50.16.935596@nowhere.lan...
>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 05:46:03 +1100, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Least spain doesn't have state sactioned murder.
>>>
>>> Yes they do, and have had it for decades - you just are not privy to the
>>> information. Every country has one or more teams that provides that
>>> service, except for maybe France - they have some other country provide
>>> the service for them :-)
>>
>> Bullshit. There's no death penalty in any of the EU country's penal code.
>
> Care to show me where to mentioned "Death Penalty"? You clearly stated
> "Sanctioned Murder".
Um, David Candy clearly stated that, not me.
> If you intended to say "Death Penalty" you should
> have said it - as one who so often complains about content of messages.
I did.
>
> Spain sanctions murder/eliminations all the time, you just don't see it
> because you don't belong to the covert groups that are involved in it.
Tell that to José Barrionuevo and Rafael Vera who are doing time for heading
up killing squads to kill ETA members.
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The contract is between you and the store. MS is not involved. You can't bind third parties in contracts.
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message newsan.2005.02.21.18.51.45.558362@nowhere.lan...
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:47:43 -0500, Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) wrote:
>>
>> What Alias is getting at is that all web sites, and stores, sell you
>> software. Don't they all have software departments, T.V. departments,
>> appliance departments etc.
>>
>> Yet after they have sold you the "software", they try to tell you that you
>> have bought a license. Well, people DID NOT buy it in the license
>> department - did they?
>
> And the simple fact is that the store that sold it didn't provide full
> disclosure while MS does clearly provide it. Maybe you should be
> complaining to the stores since they are the ones not providing the
> information to the customers - MS clearly makes this information available
> to any that ask/look for it.
>
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:08:18 +0100, Alias wrote:
>>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>[snip]
>>> Spain sanctions murder/eliminations all the time, you just don't see it
>>> because you don't belong to the covert groups that are involved in it.
>>
>> Tell that to José Barrionuevo and Rafael Vera who are doing time for
>> heading
>> up killing squads to kill ETA members.
>
> Just because someone gets busted for a failed mission that had to have a
> fall guy, it doesn't mean that it's not still happening. That example of
> yours just proves the point - there are sanctioned kills carried out by
> governments all over the world, have been, and will continue to be.
Can you prove your assertions? Fact is the USA has state sanctioned murder
and has murdered many innocent people and they do it in public and are proud
of it.
Disgusting.
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message newsan.2005.02.21.19.07.52.786697@nowhere.lan...
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 06:03:28 +1100, wrote:
>
>> Australia doesn't. It is prohibited by law after ASIS kidnapped a hotel
>> of Australians in melbourne as a training exercise. The police weren't
>> impressed with people running around melbourne with guns kidnapping
>> people at random. The people kidnapped weren't impressed either. Noone
>> was so they lost the power to conduct covert missions and can only spy.
>
> And if you believe that Oz doesn't take people out you're living in a
> dream world and failing to face reality.
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