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What do you guys think of this gaming rig?

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February 1, 2007 6:05:12 PM

I'm working on upgrading my current system: mobo and processor are next to undergo an upgrade. I currently have:

NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT/GTO
Maxtor 6L160M0
1.5 gigs Dual DDR2 SDRAM

Intel Pentium 4 531, 3000 MHz (15 x 200)

I'm looking to go AMD dual-core, and have my eye on these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Are any of you guys aware of compatibility issues with anything I have here? I've heard some of the AMD dualcores can have problems with games; it that true? Thank you very much for any and all input.

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February 1, 2007 6:16:12 PM

I would throw in the extra $30 and get an E4300 instead of the 3800+, and for the mobo a P5B Deluxe, or, if you want to save some cash, a Gigabyte S3.
February 1, 2007 7:00:26 PM

Hmm ... it looks allright, but seems to be lacking SLI support. I'd really like to use that when the time comes. How much of a performance boost would I get with the core 2 duo system?
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February 1, 2007 7:14:21 PM

The E4300 is pretty much on par with an X2 4200+, and the 4200+ beats the crap out of a 3800+. If you want SLI support theres always the P5N-E, not my first choice, but its still a pretty good mobo.
February 1, 2007 7:27:48 PM

So what would you say about just going with the 4200, then?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

It's slightly cheaper than the intel chip, and the consensus seems to be that AMDs are better for gaming. It seems to have come down to two combinations:

1: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ and a AM2 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard for $361

2: Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 and a ASUS P5N-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard for $324

The price difference really isn't a big deal, but the former mobo does seem to have an edge on the latter. What are your thoughts?

Edit: Also, I see that the AMD Athlon 64 is still being touted as the best gaming processor. Is that meant to exclude the X2 line, or has the claim not yet updated? Thanks a bunch.
February 1, 2007 7:44:14 PM

I would still get the E4300, a better upgrade path, overall its cheaper, and the E4300 is just a better cpu (maybe i should have said "slightly better" instead of "on par"). Where did you hear AMD cpus are better then intels in gaming? Thats was the case before the C2D's, when all intel had in the desktop market where the P4s and PDs, but the Core 2 Duos are the performance kings ATM.

A couple reviews.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2903&p=1
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e4300.html

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Edit: Also, I see that the AMD Athlon 64 is still being touted as the best gaming processor. Is that meant to exclude the X2 line, or has the claim not yet updated? Thanks a bunch.


Where did you get that from?! Sharikou's blog?
February 1, 2007 7:49:33 PM

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So what would you say about just going with the 4200, then?

...and the consensus seems to be that AMDs are better for gaming. ...


Maybe before core2 came out, but thats not true now.
February 1, 2007 7:53:56 PM

Dude, I love you. Those benchmarks are exactly what I've been looking for. I did suspect that amd's gaming superiority record might have been outdated, but I just hadn't many direct gaming comparisons lately; those reviews gave me what I was looking for. In that case, I'll be going with setup #2. Thanks a bunch for all your advice, man.
February 1, 2007 8:01:53 PM

No problem. Thats what im here for!
February 1, 2007 8:20:13 PM

Its a tough decision, the E4300 oc's like a dream, although the E6300 is slightly faster, and oc's fairly well too. I have an E6300 myself, and decided against returning it and getting an E4300. So i guess if you arent going to oc, and the $10 doesnt matter all that much to you, get the E6300. If you are going to oc, get the E4300.
February 1, 2007 8:23:30 PM

Awesome; I'm not nearly confident enough in my ocing skills to risk a $200 bit of hardware, so E6300 it is.
February 1, 2007 8:56:48 PM

Not OC'ing a C2D is a waste.

You might as well not even go C2D.

Sure the benchmarks are nice and everything, but the only real reason to go with C2D is to over-clock.

A 4200+ performs "on par" with a 6300, and SLI motherboards for Dual Core AMD chips are cheaper than decent SLI motherboards for C2D processors.

While I really don't support AMD in this battle and highly recommend over-clocking a C2D, if you're not going to over-clock, go with AMD because the SLI stage is easier to hit.

My socket 939 motherboard is the best motherboard in the market for Dual Core AMD + SLI and it's only $100.

To put it bluntly, plan on over-clocking and spend some time on it. You'll get $1000 performance out of your $177 CPU.

Also, if you're over-clocking, the 4300 is easier to over-clock for newbies because it has a higher multiplier and can be over-clocked 3.0+ ghz maintaining a 1:1 ratio with DDR667 ram.
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