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February 2, 2007 7:19:49 PM

verndewd asked
if i got errors only on the new pair

no the only time i got errors was the 1st time with all the DIMMS in
also that was on the 1st run
on later consecutive runs, the errors stacked up

do you know neweggs policy, and if im voilating anything that would prevent a clean give back and get my cash back?

:send it back,say it wasnt compatible.you didnt oc so therefore you are covered.

yea thats what i was thinking of, done it b4 just wanted to make sure

but what to send back? Ill need your help to devise a gameplan for sat night for testing...
you said to isolate the issue, lets make a plan to do so


good thing i didnt get itchy and oc eh?
February 2, 2007 7:21:27 PM

i really got to go soon, write a short post about sat night, ill read it soon or sat night

thanks for your help so far, but if you guys arent there sat night and im alone ill need a gameplan now...
right?
February 2, 2007 7:25:48 PM

verndude:
I am thinking the ram is not compatiblei have heard ddr2 is timing sensitive to the other modules.
i will help with what i can.

me:
thank you, but i still had issues with starting 3dmark 05 and 06 (when it was testing sys config) with the old ram alone in the same spots (not sure if dimm a was in slot 1 before but that would be an issue with my mobo if it was sensitive to that)
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February 2, 2007 7:29:12 PM

verndude:gameplan is replacement or refund.if you had no errors prior and your modules dont have the same rate of transfer it will cause errors.its complicated,but its what i have heard.that last number on timing is actually a reference to a memory action in nanoseconds.

me:replacement is out of the question UNLESS we can be sure that the issue is isloated to the RAM and nothing else.

you dont want to know how mcuh coputer hardware i sent back in a hurry just bc i ran into a problem.

ill do it again
February 2, 2007 7:32:23 PM

i gtg NOW, ill be back saddy night

read the thread in the meantime

thanks for it all
February 2, 2007 7:48:25 PM

you know what, i can tell what you wrote is extremely helpful but cant process it now

ill do exactly as you say saddy night
in the meantime please read the thread and maybe get another big poster to help out (chuckhissle dasickninja, cant even remember now who im talking to... just get help, keep the thread alive and, meet me back here at 645 or so tomorrow night
February 2, 2007 7:50:14 PM

u2 bro, u2


im actually not worried anymore, just peacefully accepting it, you know its bc of all you guys helping out

thnx to you all
February 2, 2007 7:58:46 PM

two things to know.
1) you can't mix ram of different speeds or timings in the same system.
2) If you touch complex electronc devices without taking anti-static precautions, you're asking for it.
February 2, 2007 8:29:38 PM

Quote:
verndude:...if you had no errors prior and your modules dont have the same rate of transfer it will cause errors.

????
Quote:
...that last number on timing is actually a reference to a memory action in nanoseconds.

Nope. This might be a good time to check out the sticky FAQ and some of the excellent links inside.
February 2, 2007 8:35:12 PM

Quote:
... i still had issues with starting 3dmark 05 and 06 (when it was testing sys config) with the old ram alone in the same spots ...

It's important to distinguish between hardware problems and problems that may be due to Windows (either "normal" Win, or Win/apps that have become corrupted due to memory/hardware/etc problems).
You wouldn't start building a house before you finished building a secure foundation; similarly, you need to make sure your CPU/RAM are working without errors before trying tests under Windows. It may even be the case that you will need to reinstall Windows and/or apps if their files have become corrupted due to running Win on a flaky system.
February 2, 2007 8:36:10 PM

ILT has some excellent suggestions/advice.
February 2, 2007 8:36:59 PM

Quote:
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1) you can't mix ram of different speeds or timings in the same system.
...

Of course you can. BTDT. (How do these urban legends get started??)
February 3, 2007 9:59:12 PM

Hey you all Im back

my next post will take me 10min or so to type and will be very-all-encompassing

before I type that though Ill PM all of the people who helped on this forum
February 3, 2007 10:03:57 PM

Havent even read the posts made after I left, just want to add in,now Im running memtest on my OLD ram, its on its 3rd pass without any errors.

Gonna read the new posts and then type my big one.
February 3, 2007 10:04:13 PM

Havent even read the posts made after I left, just want to add in,now Im running memtest on my OLD ram, its on its 3rd pass without any errors.

Gonna read the new posts and then type my big one.
February 3, 2007 10:10:10 PM

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Quote:
It's important to distinguish between hardware problems and problems that may be due to Windows (either "normal" Win, or Win/apps that have become corrupted due to memory/hardware/etc problems).
You wouldn't start building a house before you finished building a secure foundation; similarly, you need to make sure your CPU/RAM are working without errors before trying tests under Windows. It may even be the case that you will need to reinstall Windows and/or apps if their files have become corrupted due to running Win on a flaky system.


I agree with you on what you said about 3dmark.

However, before any of the upgrades my system was running fully backed up, fully defragged, and running smooth as could be for many months.

The trouble starts hence.
February 3, 2007 10:18:17 PM

TO: JUMPINGJACK
I appreciate your reading of the whole thread greatly and I look forward to you coming back tonite (sat night) to help out.

Quote:
I have never tried this, but find a RAM that passed memtest and then try running the test with that module but in the other DIMM slot.


I didnt know one could run RAM with the 1st slot empty, but I guess it woudl be possible. Right as I type this my old ram (both sticks) are at 79 percent done with their 3rd run on memtest. When It finishes its 4th with no errors, then Ill try ONE of the old sticks in the 2nd slot (1st slot of the 2nd pair) alone for 3 runs, then alone for 3 runs in the 4th slot, then do the same for the other new module.

Quote:
What I am worried about is that the chipset may have gotten a jolt of juice and knocked out one DIMM slot pluse the keyboard and mouse, it would be a wierd and strand coincidence, but a ESD event may be the culprit. This is just a suspicion.


Could be, although I did use a wristband for most if not all of the installation and unplugged it the wole while, could it happen while the pc was running closed?

Quote:
If that is the case, then I would RMA the entire rig and the new RAM, Dell is pretty good about replacing HW jolly on the spot, so it may be just worth your effort to get it up and running, backup your data, wipe the drive and send it back to Dell.


Thats nice, but my warranty ran out this past august. Besides, I dont think my pc is fried.

THE END, for now, havent even had the chance to type my big one.
February 3, 2007 10:38:00 PM

Quote:
...
1) you can't mix ram of different speeds or timings in the same system.
...

Of course you can. BTDT. (How do these urban legends get started??)

Yeah well you can if you like a unstable system I guess. personally I prefer a system that works properly. ...and the way I know is my honours degree in computer science and my job...and having to fix other peoples PC's with eactly this problem.
February 3, 2007 10:55:20 PM

Quote:

even if your computer wasn't fried, what Jack is saying is that you should send it back to be reimaged and fix all the windows based problems that only Microsoft could give you


I can still send it back, even though the warranty has ran out????????

And please tell me, what 'windows problems' have I had. What can 'they' do at Dell that I cannot do at home?
February 3, 2007 11:14:25 PM

Ive got a loveable Windows XP Home Edition OEM edition (Im sure you know what that means) CD that I have used to Reinstall Windows on my PC maybe 3 or 4 times over the past several years due to several episodes of my idiocy, never a hardware issue.

I can certainly reformat and reinstall Windows on my PC. Ive even got a KillDisk Floppy that I could use to hardreformat my HD, not sure exactly what would happen, but It sure would wipe it clean ;) 

Well I would say that Im 3/4 way done with the big post, keep waiting, another 20 min or so.

At this point, I ran the sn92 of the new DIMMS in the 2nd slot for 20min with no errors, and 30min in the 4th slot with no errors. I now will do the same with the sn93 new DIMM. Wish me luck
February 3, 2007 11:17:25 PM

To Verndewd:

G'day my good man

Glad youre keeping trim and in proper form
February 3, 2007 11:25:00 PM

An hour sound ridiculous, it takes 10 min per 512mb dimm, earlier (much earlier) someone suggested 7 runs (around 70min).

Perhaps after I do all of the ram tests on the other slots and new DIMMS as laid out b4, I should run all 4 DIMMS in these configs:
Old/New92/Old/New93
and (to make sure I replicate the original errored test)
Old/New92/Old/New93

Im trying to write my big post though, this is distracting me :) 

a couple min more, ok
February 3, 2007 11:53:43 PM

Im 5/6 done with the big one, but my dad want to use his lappy, and well Im just saving what I wrote so far, Ill be back on in 25min or so..

Sorry for the wait, in the meantime Ill let sn92 run some more in the 4th (its at 35min) lets say until 45min and then run it the same in slot number 2

I dont have any errors though, after testing ram in different configs for maybe 1hour 45min. Sounds juicy...

Ill be back soon, hold your breaths for the big one, its huge ;) 
February 4, 2007 12:45:39 AM

ok im back and btw:
ive tested the sn92 in both secondary slots for a while:
slot 4 for 55min
and slot 2 so far for 29min

no errors tonite just as my tests on friday

after the current test hits 50min or so, ill put in all dimms in an attempt to reconfigure the configuration that first gave me errors.

I dont think the new RAM is bad per se as alone they fare very well no matter what slot they are in.

I said it above... all at once is next

the big one is in the process of being finished, it really doesnt introduce that much it just lays it all out in a clear and simple way
February 4, 2007 1:19:09 AM

Okay now Im going to put this all out in a clear coherent way:

I remembered several things that transpired that night that I havent mentioned before. They could mean nothing, or they could be a key to the 'issue' at hand.
One is that after I burnt the CD with Sonic Record Now from the image file of MEMTEST86, my AVG popped up and told me that it had caught a Trojan sneaking around Sonic Express Labeler's folder. That program is directly related to sonic record now. I clicked heal, and AVG told me that it was healed. Just adding it in, I dont know what It means.
Also, after removing the Radeon I noticed thick dust inside the edge of the PCIExpress slot, which I blew out the manual way. No other thick dust is present in my rig.

Okay now, we got that out of the way. Now I will say what I think is the issue.

A) Do I even have anything wrong with my rig?
All that I found was errors when all four DIMMS were running memtest, and only on the last new one. That 1st test got me 11 errors, the pic is in the 1st post. The 500 errors that I reported before cannot be vouched for, for I was extremely groggy.

B) Its probably a driver conflict/corruption:
As you will see below, my removing and installing of drivers was a long and bumpy road, in which I could have knocked a screw out of one of my wagon wheels. A conflict with drivers would easily explain hangups and the such.

C) Your suspicions could be correct, I could have knocked out a ram slot. Right now Im running sn92 of the new DIMMS in the 2nd ram slot. Its on its 3rd pass (I think, I havent actually been watching) with no errors. Read my previous thread for my plans.

What Im going to do about it:
A) the new ram in other slots testing mentioned above

B) Stability Testing: to fufill my first question if anything is wrong. All tests will be run without any interference of the new DIMMS, and no other hardware or drivers removed.

1- General Purpose: Ill run the typical programs that I run while using the PC to stress out CPU and RAM to an extent.

Length of time: 45 minutes

What Im gonna do:
a) AIM Triton
b) All of my 6 anti-stuff programs
c) Mozilla Firefox with a handful of windows open (Ill check my regular sites)
d) Azureus dl'ing 4 torrents, will take up all of my meager internet bandwidth
e) PSPVideo9 encoding avi to mpeg4 video (2 175mb videos encoded should take 40-42min)
f) Yahoo Widgets with 3 widgets open (maybe 60-70mb of RAM)
g) WMP11 watch an avi video playing

2- Gaming: CPU, RAM, but mostly Graphics
Just what I did the night of the upgrading when I ran FEAR, and what I do everytime that I game (dont knock it)

Length: 45min plus the time to shut down all the apps

What Im gonna do:
a) disable the wifi
b) close all unnecessary programs including my protection apps, azureus
c) go to control panel/ Advanced Tab, under performance click settings,
visual effect, set for best performance (this as well as the shutting down of unneccessary programs clears up hundreds of megs of RAM)
d) play F.E.A.R. singleplayer for 45 minutes w00t with all settings high enough

3- The final test:
Im going to re-install 3dmark 05 and 06, and then attempt to run them both.
Length: i dunno, probably 20-30 minutes for it all





Okay then, we've got that out of the way I would just like to add that now that sn92 of the new ram is on its second or third run in the last socket (the 'problematic' one)

Okay, Ive gone through my plan so far. Now on to what already happened.


Trumpets Playing in the Background:

a) I come home, open the box from the egg.
b) my PC is off, I open it and install the 2 new DIMMs in the 2nd and 4th slots (I must say, I am not very experienced at doing that and It took me a lot of pushing and shoving to get them both in)
c) I start up my PC, check the Task Manager that I indeed have 2gb of RAM recognized

d) the Sound Card
1-I go to Device manager and uninstall the driver under SB Audigy
2- Uninstall the Creative Console under Add/Remove programs
3- Shut Down my PC
4- Remove a mysterious cable from my sound card that lead to the front of the case, I believe that It leads to my front headphone and microphone ports (which I dont happen to use, because they got pushed into the case, and I cannot get at them)
5- Removed the Audigy Card and put in the Bluegears card
6- Started my PC and when prompted by Windows, inserted the Bluegears CD and installed the included drivers and such
7- It didnt ask to restart, so I 'believe' that I did not
8- I played some fun songs and basically screwed around like that

e) the Video Card
1- I uninstall the ATI Stuff in this order precisely (as well as I can though)

a) The Add Remove Programs Stage-
A) ATI Control Panel- it then asked to restart I then 'declined', (the guide did not say anything about restarting)
B) Display Driver- it then asked to restart, and I said "you know what the heck, it cant hurt" and accepted the restart
Unfortunately, It did not restart. Nothing at all happened, but since I already gave the order, I hard restarted it by holding doen the power button
C) after the restart: Addremove Programs and I uninstalled the ATI Uninstaller
it asked again to restart, I 'think' I said yes, and I think it also didnt shut down, I hard shut down again.

b) The Driver Cleaner stage
A) I booted into Safe Mode
B) I ran Driver Cleaner Pro
C) I ran (as the guide suggests under 'for users switching from ATI to Nvidia... or Vice Versa')
i ran: ATI, clean: ...twice...

c) The GFX
A)I removed the ATI Radeon with a bit of difficulty (dell had installed a brace system that was hard to remove)
- I noticed a bit of dust in the border of the socket and I blew It out.
B) I put in the GFX and its 6pin power cable (my ATI did not use that cable, it ran off the bus like the 7600gt)

C) I started my PC
D) Windows autodetect ran and I inserted the eVGA CD and installed the included drivers

d) Me having fun w/ my friend steven whom I invited over for the event
A) I played some songs, played around with the Bluegears tests for my speakers and such, ran a divx movie, you dont want to know which, okay, okay Ill tell you: Super Troopers ...... w00t
- the sound was great and really an improvement... surround like.. and clear... all from the little 700mb movie's compressed mp3 sound

B) I ran 3dMark06 with the default settings:
- I didnt know what was going on after I clicked on it (the loge was seemingly frozen on, well you know what I mean)
turns out it was just scanning my sys config, took a couple minutes\
- Ran the test, went fine, got a 4002

C) I uninstalled and reinstalled 3dmark05 (necessary because I registered it and changed the default settings, and then forgot them, so i just wanted to know what to test at to get the same results... whoo...)
-it ran without a hitch, and I got a 6941

D) F.E.A.R.
- I installed F.E.A.R.
- Fear autodetected at 1024x768 but thats not high enough for me so I set it to 1600x1200
- I left the other autodetect settings as they were
- The game experience was jaw-dropping, its really a very well-made game, with stunning visuals and immersive sound

e) Only the Beginning:
A) I fooled around, played some more of the divx movie, and dl'ed a couple torrents
B)My friend went to sleep so I got ready to shut down for the night
C) I downloaded memtest and burnt the iso to cd-r using Sonic Record Now.
it finishes...
D) AVG pops up, as I said way above, It found a trojan in sonic express labeler, related to sonic record now
I tell it to heal, it says it did so successfully
E) Shut down
F) Run Memtest:
1- now as you should know my RAM was in the config:
old/new/old/new so that the new DIMMS and the old DIMMS were in pairs of their own type, ready to embark on Noah's ark .... I kid....
2- After one 35min run, it shows 11 errors as seen in this pic:


Okay, we can see that the errors are in a small range of RAM, in the 4th DIMM, a new one. That is all I have to say, all the rest is self-explanatory

G) I let memtest run for longer, heck, all night FIVE HOURS
- I groggily remember waking up, checking the pc and seeing that it said hundreds of errors, but as I said, groggily I easily could have been mistaken


f) next day: the glee gets bad-
A) I turn on my PC after coming home from school, its all good until I try to show my sister my new PC's capabilities by running 3dmark06: it doesnt start... it takes a while, then shows up on task manager as being unresponding, I shut it down by end task
B) disturbed, I try to run 3dmark05 but it too doesnt start ok...
I try to end the task, but nothing good happens, I then try to end the process: nothing again...
C) I hard shut down, and restart
D) I attempt to run 3dmark05, it hangs, and then it freezes, my cursor is unresponsive
E) I restart several times trying to get my mouse and kb to work, trying another USB port and then a PS2 port, no dice...
I then get out a dusty PS2 kb and mouse, it work fine
F) I would like to say that my Logitech MX3100 kb and mouse require no drivers, they run natively in Windows merely by inserting the USB receiver in a port.
G) my KB and mouse dont do anything in my dads lappy, a Dell Inspiron 8600, except the hibernate key on the keyboard, which does as told
- I must add here: If it was a surge that took out the kb and mouse it was probably the receiver that got fried not the expensive stuff, later, I'll work at contacting Logitech to get replacement parts, Ill ask for the receiver to be replaced, if no dice: a new MX1000 and a G11, they dont make my kb and mouse anymore and I dont want the MX3200 because of its inferior mouse (compared to the mx1000)

H) I frantically begin this thread
I) Memtests ensue:
1- I try 1st the 2 old DIMMS in the 1st paired slots: 1 and 3 for one run
2- I try the sn93, and sn92 in the 1st slot for a couple times, no dice either



Well thats all until tonite- nothing done but memtests
OLD DIMMS IN 1 and 3- for a while, new dimms in 2nd and 4th slots for around the sufficient time, 30min-1hr all around

at this time the last of the new dimms is at 1:01 in its last slot
My next objective is to run my test above with the new ram:

p.s. I remember, at some point during the night of upgrading I had some program stop responding, but couldnt get it to shut down, my friend who is not obscenely well read in computers, but relatively savvy, suggested I end the process dumprep.exe, to get rid of the issue. It was taking up 500mb of ram, I ended it and the program successfully shut down


THE END
February 4, 2007 2:04:37 AM

You know, it could have been something as simple as a bit of dust in the DIMM slot. Since you've now taken everything out and reinstalled it into presumably clean slots, that may have fixed it.
As for your app tests under Windows: just skip those and run Orthos instead. It'll stress your CPU and RAM (close) to the max. If you can run that fine for a couple of hours, I think your system is OK.
February 4, 2007 2:18:21 AM

Quote:
You know, it could have been something as simple as a bit of dust in the DIMM slot. Since you've now taken everything out and reinstalled it into presumably clean slots, that may have fixed it.
As for your app tests under Windows: just skip those and run Orthos instead. It'll stress your CPU and RAM (close) to the max. If you can run that fine for a couple of hours, I think your system is OK.


Yea, I could run Orthos but that would leave my PC unusable for fun
this was is a lot more fun, heck im watching Bond a View to a Kill, never seen it yet

I heart Bond :oops: 
February 4, 2007 2:29:56 AM

Yes, Walken makes a good archenemy, and the aerial struggle scenes are pretty cool. The bad guys' planned catastrophe is pretty hokey IMHO.

If you want some fun shows to watch, UK's Top Gear is excellent (see www.finalgear.com).
February 4, 2007 2:36:44 AM

omg reading your short response brought tears to my eyes
I love the whole bond thing and walken and moore and mayday are playing their Bond acts SUPERBLY

i really have a thing for bond, if I ever get my hands on Albert Broccoli ;) 
hes the director of most of the great bonds

waaay OT but my sys is going great with the old ram and all
February 4, 2007 3:23:53 AM

Hey just an update: been screwing around, aim, azureus, firefox, wmp
not a hitch... but i tried my kb and mouse on the lappy that im typing this on and they are deader than James Bond's Wife

all is looking good, at the end of the movie (30min) ill start FEAR
I never knew how good it was to have 2pcs on the same desk

ahh the convenience
February 4, 2007 4:23:53 AM

ok im turning off the lappy now

movie is coming to an end I plan to run FEAR

then for the rest of the night while i sleep i will do:

old/new/old/new

before that testing im running my old GIG
February 4, 2007 5:25:03 AM

I take what you said very seriously, and from you, as a great compliment.
I hope that as a result of this situation I will gain some measure of respect in this forum. I just want to say here that I am 17 years old, a senior in high school. 2 years ago I knew about the same amount about computers as the average joe on the street which would be umm... CPU, RAM, Hard Drive, i guess I know what they do. Heck the year before that I was unsure if a PC had a video card as well as a graphics card, or was it just a video card ;) . Now that's classic.
As a response to your labeling of my posts as articulate, I would argue. This exact post is quite articulate, but the thread in general is not. For many of the posts on this thread I was a nervous frantic wreck with no hope in sight. Just check out the first page.

About what you said about the 4th ram slot , I dunno ;) 

I ran both sn92 and sn93 new DIMMS in the 4th slot for 45 min and 65min respectively, or something of the sort. I think that knocks out the idea that the 4th slot has its own issue. I said before about the testing I will attempt to do tonight. If there ARE issues i.e. errors I would assume that it will be due to either my computer's i.e. motherboard's issues with running 4 DIMMS at once, or the NEW ram's issues with running in that configuration. Either way, if it does give errors, the ram will probably go for a Newegg RMA.

Well I seem to remember wanting to add something, but in the time it took me to type this post so far I've forgotten it.

I am just annoyed now that I am forced to use a Dell PS2 mouse as I cannot seem to find my good old Microsoft Intellimouse that is old, but reliable. Perhaps someone 'borrowed it'

Okay now, I have decided not to try F.E.A.R. tonight. I uninstalled 3dmark 05 and 06 and will reinstall 05 and attempt to run it. I then plan to do tonight's previously stated memory tests.

Goodnight to you all, and a Merry Life this is
February 4, 2007 5:50:10 AM

I am so glad you are still on.

All that I did was uninstall 3dmark 05 and 06 and reinstall 05

I double clicked on the shortcut and well, by now its 12min later and I didnt touch the PC since except to go to the task manager to see if it said that 3d wasnt responding. Still now, it says its running fine and the fans on my PC are on full. I can hear my HD whirring and its activity light is blinking.

The beginning 3dmark logo is still up though after nearly 15min.

I would love some help
February 4, 2007 5:56:23 AM

A short update:
I did end task for the 3dmark, it replied that it wasnt responding, and it then shut down. I clicked on the icon again just as I did on friday to see what would happen.

Well according to how I interpret your last post, you havent really read my whole accounting. Ive tested every module out as well as every slot, to the extent that I can say with 99% confidence that all of the RAM is fine alone as well as all of the slots.

I still will try the big memtest again, however if it gives errors Ill worry about it then

any ideas on 3dmarks odd behavior?
February 4, 2007 6:05:48 AM

I write this with sadness in my heart.
I could not shut down 3dmark05 as hard as I tried. Before I touched it though, task manager recognized it as being unresponding. After restarting memtest began, I quit it out and got to the 1st windows screen the user chooser.

Mouse moved to the user name, then abruptly stopped.

I restarted then rushed to type this.

What more can I say?
February 4, 2007 6:08:43 AM

Hey after restarting the KB and mouse work fine. It is important to note though that it is the kb and mouse that gave up there. Both running off of PS2.

You can tell when something is going wrong by the frequency of my posting.

UPDATE: IM NOT GONNA DO MEMTEST, instead ORTHOS for as long as I can tolerate it :?
February 4, 2007 6:13:08 AM

Do you have CPU-Z yet?

I'd put 1 set in at a time and get the 4 timings each set produces. Compare the numbers. Set the timings in BIOS to the loosest reading you get. That should solve the problem. I really believe you've got mismatched sets and the mobo doesn't know which timings to set. Try bumping the dimm voltage up 0.1v too.
February 4, 2007 6:15:28 AM

naaah trust me after that much time on the left alone. I did check the processes, who do you take me for :) 
Nothing at all was taking up anything significant. Just sound like my PC suddenly (as of this past Friday) dislikes the 3dmark series.

This most probably shows a more deeply embedded issue though with most probably software, and most horrifyingly drivers.

I did test with the same software and drivers on Thursday night (upgrade night) but it worked like a charm.

Dont know about anything, I dl'ed Orthos but I dont know what settings to run it on for all night.
February 4, 2007 6:19:56 AM

response to verndewd asking about malware and the such
:
Have you read my BIG POST in which in the middle of and at the very beginning I note that my PC did have a trojan warning pop up at a time. Read the big one for more info please?

I now use :
Zone alarm free
AVG free
spybot s&d
ad-aware
Spyware blaster
i cant think of any more now, the newest though is spyware blaster. Ill do the basic checks now: spybot and ad-aware
AVG takes HOURS to do, ive got better uses for my CPU power
February 4, 2007 6:20:57 AM

Im not worrying about the new ram now ok?
February 4, 2007 6:30:08 AM

about 3dmark i say as b4 most probably the software's fault, just throwing blame around

ive got to go to sleep

I ran spybot s and d's scan, is it bad that for months every scan just scans the bookmarks and areas of the internet browsers installed and hasnt found an issue in mos?

I ran adware's smart scan for a min or two it found a little tracking cookie. I have no time to do more
I ran the Malicious software tool's quick scan which detected nada.

I will run orthos on the default Blend settings unless otherwise instructed
I will go to sleep in 6 min no matter what.

gnight
February 4, 2007 6:34:06 AM

Quote:
yu have some resource problems if 05 will not work,drivers or whatever`.
I am feeling a hardware driver to be honest.something is distracting the execution of 05.


blah blah i apoligize for my attitude but i gtg to go to sleep

just to add: i do have a folder that wont delete that held 3 torrent folders with cracks and serials in them from the day b4 the upgrade when i was looking for a 3d05 key. I tried unlocker but no dice
scans with malicious and AVg show nothing bad

ai'
February 4, 2007 6:36:55 AM

I havent started ORTHOS yet, but im about to.. on the default blend settings.

I can leave this on without annoyance until 130 PM tomorrow

reasons withheld

should I run orthos as is now?

reply with swiftness please
February 4, 2007 6:37:59 AM

Its ok though that I unpacked orthos to the desktop right? all of its files are naked there displaying all of its .dll's

that is all
February 4, 2007 6:40:48 AM

check there +++

okay started orthos on blend settings

gnight NOW
February 4, 2007 7:35:43 AM

Just a suggestion to run a disk check if you haven't recently. Also, perhaps your 3dmark files got corrupted -- have you downloaded fresh ones?
February 4, 2007 10:27:59 AM

Disk check being? My hard drive is very well defragged, as well as my MFT and Drive Boot Thangy. I havent done a full virus scan for malware in a week or two though.

Othos is runninng fine after 3:24, gonna let it be. I checked the task manager: its talking up 100percentCPU and 900mb or so of RAM.

Why I think 3dmark wont open: Its looking for sys config then right? 05 doesnt go outright and say it, but 06 does. It either cannot find or there has been an error with some file on my PC that holds a written form of my PC's current hardware configuration. Either that or, say, my GFX drivers arent showing up properly to the checker because of my sloppy install.

Please check my big post for most of the info on what has gone on so far.
My plan after letting Orthos sit for a while is to get a similar sysconfig check going. I believe in my EA Games folder. EA has a sysconfig checker that is usually slow and annoying.

Ive got to go to school, but I will be available at or around 1:30PM. I'll write back then.
February 4, 2007 10:30:40 AM

My internet connection is quite the crappy one, It only can do max: 86 down. I downloaded 3dmark05 at school and 06 from a torrent. My router also sucks something horrible, and is almost never running without a hitch. I did get a new router in the same newegg box as everything else but havent had a chance to open it for obvious reasons.

gtg
February 4, 2007 5:28:00 PM

I will run chkdisk although I must say, I have run it twice in the past month or two with no errors.

Quote:
just use prime95 for sucking up all your ram, a blend test takes up my entire 2gb for testing


If you would read a short while before, you would see that I have not tested with all 2gb, all 4 DIMMS at once since Thursday Night, the night of the 11 errors.

Im sticking to trying to solve this issue with the 1gb of old ram, so that it can escape blame for any issues encountered forthwith.

I am planning to attempt to run EAsy Info, in fact here is goes. Ok then that is good news. It runs just fine, starting up extremely fast, and recognizing the 1gb of old ram as well as the 7900gs and Sound Card.

That is excellent news, I will be waiting for any comments aside from more RAM testing, I think I have cleared my Old RAM, and PSU from any possible blame, as well as the new RAM, for it is not in my system.

THE END for now
February 4, 2007 6:24:38 PM

I have run several EAsy infos in the meantime

All EA Games games come with a utility for checking sys config. The games by EA Games that I have on my system are and the results that I got from testing each:

Battlefield 2: all is good, started up and recognized it all

Battlefield 1942 the Road to Rome: all is good, started up and recognized it all

Command and Conquer Generals:all is good, started up and recognized it all

Command and Conquer Generals Zero Hour:all is good, started up and recognized it all


Need For Speed Underground 2*: Problematic as told in pictures:


what this means I do not know



this is looking fishier by the minute

Now I simply must add here that this programs was dl'ed by a friend and given to me with cracks, keygens and all. Unfortunately, several months ago it refused to start, I believe saying that the CD was not in the drive, hinting that the CD Crack failed, or the game files were corrupted in some way.

I do not know what these errors mean but they very well might lead us all to my actual issue.

NOTE TO ALL READING THIS POST: I wrote a full encounting of all gone on until its point on page4 called 'the big one', you cannot miss it. I would greatly appreciate it if everyone who wants to help out, that they read that post.

Gday
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