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February 5, 2007 1:36:56 AM

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got it waiting for winxp to boot, taking a long freakin time... here it is and here i go

I assume that my next step is to try to insert the Linksys CD and try to get it to run

the end


IM LOOKING AT THE MANUAL ON THE CD
I cannot seem to get the setup.exe on the CD to run for a very specific reason: it is for win98/winME/win2k

So what does it suggest for WinXP?
Just drop the card in and winXP will recognize it and ask for the CD

good, good, good
February 5, 2007 1:37:13 AM

**** Step 4 ******

A If wireless security has been
enabled on this network, you will
see a wireless security screen. If
your network utilizes WEP (Wired
Equivalent Privacy) encryption, the
WEP Key Needed for Connection
screen will appear. If your network
utilizes WPA Personal (Wi-Fi Protected
Access), the WPA Personal
Needed for Connection screen will
appear. If your network utilizes PSK2
(Pre-Shared Key 2) encryption, the
PSK2 Needed for Connection
screen will appear.
WEP Key Needed for Connection
Select 64-bit or 128-bit.
Then, enter a passphrase or WEP
key.
Passphrase - Enter a passphrase in
the Passphrase field. This is casesensitive
and should not be longer
than 16 alphanumeric characters.
It must match the passphrase of
your other wireless network devices
and is compatible with Linksys wireless
products only. (Non-Linksys wireless
products, require a WEP key to
be entered.)
WEP Key - The WEP key must match
the WEP key of your wireless network.
For 64-bit encryption, enter
exactly 10 hexadecimal characters.
For 128-bit encryption, enter
exactly 26 hexadecimal characters.
Valid hexadecimal characters
are “0” to “9” and “A” to “F”.
Then, click Connect and proceed
to Step B.
a b } Memory
February 5, 2007 1:38:52 AM

Sorry to bail on you but I've been trying to help you for about 5 1/2 hours now and I've got some other things I have to do. I'll check back tomorrow and see what happens. Ryan
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February 5, 2007 1:39:29 AM

billdcat4 wrote:
got it waiting for winxp to boot, taking a long freakin time... here it is and here i go

I assume that my next step is to try to insert the Linksys CD and try to get it to run

the end



IM LOOKING AT THE MANUAL ON THE CD
I cannot seem to get the setup.exe on the CD to run for a very specific reason: it is for win98/winME/win2k

So what does it suggest for WinXP?
Just drop the card in and winXP will recognize it and ask for the CD

good, good, good

DO YOU SEE WHY I IS FRUSTRATATORICAL??
a b } Memory
February 5, 2007 1:39:44 AM

Later Dave again sorry for the comment! Ryan
February 5, 2007 1:40:26 AM

i understand
gnight and g-luck
February 5, 2007 1:53:49 AM

Well I followed the instructions on how to install in winxp

IT WORKS!!!

im currently using the connection of my house on the PC

congrats for the suggestion

I approve :) :) :) :) 
February 5, 2007 1:58:15 AM

Good to hear, now all you have to do is secure it for the internet! I,m going to bed now but will refres this page in the morning. (it's 4AM here)
February 5, 2007 2:00:52 AM

omg its 11pm here go to sleep
see u tomorrow
February 5, 2007 2:38:24 AM

Its 11:30 EST here in NY ;) 

I have downloaded several win updates and then a big one which one can only assume is Service Pack 2.

Its installing now.

basically it all looks good from here on, that is UNTIL tomorrow night when we will begin to do a little of the programs checking to find out which programs have to be updated/reinstalled.

Okay then, all I will let it do tonight is un::::::::::::::::::::::::;

BAD THING:
okay bad thing came up now
Windows File Protection says that files that are required for win to run well have been replaced by unrecognized versions. Win must get the originals.

C:\\WINDOWS\ServicePackFiles\i386/controls.man
is not available
contact your sys admin or intert WinXP KB900725 Source Files Now
3 choices: Retry, More Info, Cancel

im looking confused, but still optimistic, gonna click retry now, okay nothing changed, the same issue is there:

CANCEL:
i clicked cancel, a new window opens saying: Windows File Protection-
You chose not to restore the original versions of the files. This may affect Windows stability. Are you sure you want to keep these unrecognized file versionns? YES NO

duh.. ;)  it says it may comprimise stability not for sure. Ill click YES keep the malwar-ish ones ;) ;);)

what can you do?,,,

It continues to install the Sp2
more in 10-20min (or sooner if something goes sour)
February 5, 2007 9:50:51 AM

Service Pack 2 is installing now.
But remember, we arent done until all of my programs work just fine.

Thanks so far, I wont be back until 6:50PM Eastern Standard
G'day
February 5, 2007 11:43:43 AM

I think that by installing SP2 or sometimes drivers you overwrite system files and Windows panics, so look them up on google but are probaly ok. dont interferwith SP2 install or will really mess up the PC.

I gotta go out now (Callout Job www.pc-callout.biz ) but will be back on later

Good luck
February 5, 2007 7:15:02 PM

I'm back. How's it going?
February 5, 2007 8:08:45 PM

Ok its monday afternoon.

I just booted and uninstalled a bunch of annoying programs that I use.

I just wanted to note that Windows loads 2-3 times slower that it used to be. I get the screen before the login screen with the 2 colored borders above and below and with the win logo: it says windows is loading. It loads but very slowly, I assume that SP2 will clear this up.

I made a list of what I did that night with the ERRORED ram
Basically, programs that might have become corrupted: "*" indicated that I installed this app
All of my Protection Apps
Nvidia Forceware *
Bluegears OXYHD drivers *
F.E.A.R. * (already uninstalled)
3dMark05 *
3Dmark 06 *
Itunes
Mozilla Firefox
Azureus
DAEMON Tools (for some reason not in Add/Remove Programs)
Sonic Record Now (w/ Sonic DLA) Uninstalled
WMP11
Aim Triton
A couple of MP3s and AVIs

So what I want to know if I can reinstall these programs from the same .exe's that I installed them from (most importantly 3dmark05 which is 270mb)
For the large majority of these files I have the .exe's backed up on CD and USB Key. It should be ok to install from these locations right?
I would doubt that I have to mess with the media files right?

About the video and sound drivers, should I just rewrite over the existing drivers or attempt to clean them as in that guide and use Driver Cleaner Pro and the such? Basically rewrite simply or the full-out-way?

winXP is running the SP2 Setup Wizard does anyone know how long this should take? 10min/30min/1hour???



All come back and lets finish this thing, ok?
Once 3dmark05 works as well as every other app on my PC, I will know that everything is ok.
February 5, 2007 8:16:51 PM

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I think that by installing SP2 or sometimes drivers you overwrite system files and Windows panics, so look them up on google but are probaly ok. dont interferwith SP2 install or will really mess up the PC.

I gotta go out now (Callout Job www.pc-callout.biz ) but will be back on later

Good luck


Ok, I must say, I did mess with the SP2 install this morning. I had to go and it was installing real slow so I just clicked cancel. I then displayed cancelling installation for an hour. I ended the task, it said it stopped responding. I shut the PC off neatly. Now when I restarted the PC winupdate came up as b4 with no problems.

If you insist that I committed a heinous act, I will do a system restore back to when I first repaired it. Either that or *yawn* another repair.

It 'seems' to be running ok now though, just painfully slow: the progress bar on the setup wizard is maybe 8percent in. It says that it is Creating Cabinets. Under details it says that its Running Processes before Install.

Heck if it doesnt move faster... Is this normal?
February 5, 2007 8:39:41 PM

I would really do a Fresh install but if you persist

Run SP2 first takes about an hour but on your system prob <Much> longer ( i normally apply SP2 to a fresh install of SP0 or SP1)

Uninstall the prob apps and reinstall

Some apps have a seperate app to remove reg entries etc

I really would do a Fresh install or with Dell prob a recovery partition/CD

Because you didnt use Zone alarm/autopatcher/Spyware blaster S&D you prob have malware by now which might stop SP2 anyway.

Please do a fresh install it is best trust me.

I'm thinking a fresh install will now be quicker anyway cos of all the issues you have so get your system back to OEM and start again as per my orig big post, Not being rude but your system is now unstable, corrupted, confused and probaly infected!

Sorry not being rude.
February 5, 2007 8:53:43 PM

Why would my sys's security be comprimised?

All of my protection apps (zone alarm, AVG, Spybot, Ad-aware) are in the same state from before the repair: that is updated and fine.

I am confused though, the Windows SP2 hasnt progressed any more from 30min ago, its in the same spot. What should I do?

I am not ready to give up yet on this Install, so dont focus on making me do a clean install. According to 4Ryan6 that would just get me back to where I started at the beginning of the re-install, except that I would lose my data.

So, my options are to wait and see if the SP2 install goes, or do another Repair, OR to do a simple System Restore to when I first Repaired the PC.
The last option is the easiet BIG FIX. I still have confidence in my install.
February 5, 2007 9:06:21 PM

Okay, the SP2 update still has not progressed any more. My CPU utilization is hovering around 50 percent with most of the usage in one of my cores (ive got HT)

Im thinking about a reformat reinstall like you suggested. I checked out autopatcher, but Im a little confused as to what to download. I will not use a torrent though, only off of a server.

A little help with autopatcher would be great, also should I try to cancel what my PC is doing? Its going nowhere.
February 5, 2007 9:45:32 PM

ok will get auto patcher link

http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/

choose the November install Download it and install but DONT run it

Download the December and Januray again install (Dec first) then Jan then Run autopatcher

You dont have to do torrents just pick a mirror (here in the U.K i get European mirrors so no good for you!)

Remember install all three but only run it once the jan update is installed.


A Full reinstall is different from repair install i.e everything is wiped with a full install with no crap hanging around from old install.

All pc's get Malware even with lots of security (why i reformat every 3months)

You need to confirm memtest is happy or the system will be eating windows files.
February 5, 2007 9:51:26 PM

tell me if this is ok:

I started downloading the Full Jan 2007 Version from Mirror by Cachefly.com
its 299mb, im 20percent done.

Is that file ok?
February 5, 2007 9:59:49 PM

Fine, I cancelled it

Should I get the lite or full version as according to your instructions??

Please stay at your PC, waiting 20min for a little answer is getting annoying
no offense

the end
February 5, 2007 10:01:47 PM

I think that cachefly mirror is in a Forign language, damm it i knew i should have paid attension in school! (i may be wrong might just be from a forign country.
February 5, 2007 10:04:32 PM

Quickly now, exactly which mirror do you suggest and exactly what files?
February 5, 2007 10:08:25 PM

You need the November from one mirror the Dec from another and Jan from other, Maybe just get the Nov (full)and with firewall you be good to Windows update the rest.

I always go for the 4th in list <<<<<<<of the XP>>>>>> mirrors for downloads (4 is three below what most peopl choose)

p.s try spread betting if you have fast connection so you get say 4kbs from one and 6 from other then cancel the 4kbs one
February 5, 2007 10:14:25 PM

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I honestly can't say that I've used this autopatcher program or even heard of it, but the best way to do a windows install is first reformat the drive, second disconnect all lan/wifi internet connections, third, install all anti-x software and firewalls, fourth, install all programs. That should keep you clean, but I wouldn't download anything right now considering you have a virus, because there's a chance it will have part of the virus attached when you back it up, making it completely useless to download as it will bring you the virus you tried to escape


This is why ANY anti-x (good phrase) programs should be downloaded on clean machine (he has Laptop) and then transferred using CD or USB pen etc.

Good point though

p.s Autopatcher lets you download Windows updayes without having the "virgin" machine have to use Windows update and it saves download time (and cost) if you have more than one machine (i.e for a small network)
February 5, 2007 10:21:29 PM

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I honestly can't say that I've used this autopatcher program or even heard of it, but the best way to do a windows install is first reformat the drive, second disconnect all lan/wifi internet connections, third, install all anti-x software and firewalls, fourth, install all programs. That should keep you clean, but I wouldn't download anything right now considering you have a virus, because there's a chance it will have part of the virus attached when you back it up, making it completely useless to download as it will bring you the virus you tried to escape


Yea, I am using a laptop to download the files. It probably isnt pristinely clean, but it never experienced any virus/spyware/stuff problems ever.

What are your opinions on whether I should reinstall on New Hardware (gpu and ram) or just use the old hardware.

I am undecided on the above matter.
February 5, 2007 10:28:38 PM

I would go back to factory so that the OEM drivers do thier job without getting confused. (update drivers once the pc is secure for the internet)

As for memory you need to check the timins are as relaxed as the slowest memory i.e dont let the pc autodectect and use the settings from the new memory so i would put

C1 C2 C3 C4
OLD NEW OLD NEW

so that it might detect settings from OLD mem in C1 (slot 1 closeets to CPU) check the settings youself in BIOS (Get the Dell Manual or go online

hey get us the ID numbers etc from the machine and i will see if i can look them up. especially the S/N etc
February 5, 2007 10:28:49 PM

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Well, until you've gotten the whole memtest thing straightened out, I'd say use the old memory until that's resolved, and then just go through the steps I suggested


Im done with that new RAM, im definitely not using it. Im thinking about the GPU and Sound Card.

Should I use the old RADEON and Sound Blaster that I KNOW work, OR use the new GeForce and Bluegears that may have issues.
February 5, 2007 10:31:16 PM

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I would go back to factory so that the OEM drivers do thier job without getting confused. (update drivers once the pc is secure for the internet)

As for memory you need to check the timins are as relaxed as the slowest memory i.e dont let the pc autodectect and use the settings from the new memory so i would put

C1 C2 C3 C4
OLD NEW OLD NEW

so that it might detect settings from OLD mem in C1 (slot 1 closeets to CPU) check the settings youself in BIOS (Get the Dell Manual or go online

hey get us the ID numbers etc from the machine and i will see if i can look them up. especially the S/N etc


not using new ram, simple as that
All of my serial numbers are a couple pages before

Can I ask what your job is Dave? What exactly do you do?
February 5, 2007 10:31:54 PM

Are the old GPU And SPU from Dell? If not then leave them out (maybe the Dell came with Onboard GPU?????)

Leave out anything Uncle Dell didnt give you.

p.s I fix PC's for a living! I was out today diagnoseing a faulty PSU (easy!) (Just short out the green pin and a black pin)

Anyway will look for S/N then i will go to Dell and try and get Bios/Cmos info so you can adjust your ram to correct settings (or maybe you can just reset Bios to factory default)
February 5, 2007 10:41:31 PM

have you a service tag?


No need Downloading stuff
February 5, 2007 10:42:59 PM

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Are the old GPU And SPU from Dell? If not then leave them out (maybe the Dell came with Onboard GPU?????)

Leave out anything Uncle Dell didnt give you.

p.s I fix PC's for a living! I was out today diagnoseing a faulty PSU (easy!) (Just short out the green pin and a black pin)

Anyway will look for S/N then i will go to Dell and try and get Bios/Cmos info so you can adjust your ram to correct settings (or maybe you can just reset Bios to factory default)



I have made a big decision: I will install Windows as my PC came, and I will not install or test my new parts at all. ALL of my new parts will go back to the Newegg warehouse whence they came. I will follow the install as I did the other 4 times that I reinstalled WinXP on the same machine.
I will use Autopatcher, and I will patch windows that way. Then I will install my protection apps downloaded from the internet and transferred thru the laptop and a USB Key. Then, I will install the Wifi Card.

I expect no problems. None whatsoever, and if you feel differently about what I should do, please tell me; however I probably will not listen.

THE END... and perhaps really the end of this whole thing...
February 5, 2007 10:44:18 PM

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just use whatever you know works


I couldn't have said it better.
February 5, 2007 10:54:01 PM

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why don't you just try linux first to see if you hae the same problems, that we if you do, you know it has to be hardware related since linux has no where near the amount of security holes windows does


Would be cool to Dual-boot but we need to get it working first! Linux is a nightmare to fix if it does go wrong but is 'better' if you know what your doing (I don't)

I got abused on a Free BSD thread so they **** off anyway

The XPS bios has a reset to factory settings option this might help but dont forget to check all settings (Especially the time ) if you do this.
February 5, 2007 11:05:09 PM

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why don't you just try linux first to see if you hae the same problems, that we if you do, you know it has to be hardware related since linux has no where near the amount of security holes windows does


Would be cool to Dual-boot but we need to get it working first! Linux is a nightmare to fix if it does go wrong but is 'better' if you know what your doing (I don't)

I got abused on a Free BSD thread so they **** off anyway

The XPS bios has a reset to factory settings option this might help but dont forget to check all settings (Especially the time ) if you do this.


Sorry, no Linux, but I will try that Factory Reset feature. Right now im booting into XP so that I can run chkdsk.

that is all for now, the old parts are in and the wifi card is out.
February 5, 2007 11:07:56 PM

run chkdsk /f from the recovery console if your XP CD/Partition lets you.
February 5, 2007 11:25:40 PM

I ran chksk and it gave no errors

Now: I did use the BIOS reset feature

problem: Now WinXP installation disk says it cannot see my HD

what setting in the BIOS do I change to fix this?
February 5, 2007 11:27:58 PM

I tried changing the boot order to how it was before: CD, SATA.... then floppy and ide in what order I dont know...

I just disabled the floppy and took that and the IDE off of the boot list

we will see if it will work now

glum....
February 5, 2007 11:38:02 PM

ok you might need to correct the auto-detect drives in the bios so you change it form nothing to -auto

Dont know exactly how on your system though, XPS have RAID so you might need a "F6 driver" Floppy but prob not on a XP Recovery CD/partition.

If you are using a Retail XP CD you might need the F6 disk
February 5, 2007 11:52:03 PM

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ok you might need to correct the auto-detect drives in the bios so you change it form nothing to -auto

Dont know exactly how on your system though, XPS have RAID so you might need a "F6 driver" Floppy but prob not on a XP Recovery CD/partition.

If you are using a Retail XP CD you might need the F6 disk


I tried every possible combination of the autodetect list. I must add though that after I first clicked on the reset to factory defaults, I got a message telling me that I was about to change something that wouldnt let XP boot and that might require a reinstall. I figured that factory is best and clicked do it anyway.
Im on hold for dell tech support, I hope that they will know how to reset the bios as in the way I need. Been on hold for 20:20 now
February 6, 2007 12:10:33 AM

Did you get two Hard drives as standard?
February 6, 2007 12:17:54 AM

OK try this

Boot PC

press F2 to get into bios

Try all the options listed under Drive controller

And try the options under performance regarding noise. It might be that the HDD is incompatible with current setting

You didnt knock the connector when you last opened the case?
February 6, 2007 12:22:58 AM

noise settings ok.. I tried to use a different SATA port, but the one its in is the only one that can get on the bootlist
February 6, 2007 12:32:24 AM

There is also an OS install mode in bios under POST behaviour) never seen it myself but hey try it?

If windows install cant see the drive it might be the Raid settings from the Raid controller if there is a boot rom option (will look in a min) this might affect it. (i.e it's expecting another disk on same controller.)
February 6, 2007 12:36:05 AM

ok you should only see the Raid boot rom if you have enabled Raid i assume you havent so forget that.

You might be better on a Dell forum now if my suggestions dont help, maybe someone else knows better?
February 6, 2007 1:17:50 AM

ok going to sleep now talk tomoz.
February 6, 2007 1:48:30 AM

I talked to the dell guy.

This will most probably be my last post on this thread.

We tried resetting the BIOS by moving the CMOS jumper.
We tried another WinXP CD.

Both yielded the same results.

However, at the end he suggested getting another SATA hard drive to test the system out with. He also suggested trying a voltage meter to test out the PSU's voltage. He and his collegues agreed that It wasnt my fault for resetting the BIOS to factory default.

What I told him is this: You and your collegeus think that my PC fried the Hard Drive. I told you before about frying my keyboard and mouse. My PC seems to be very good at frying things, therefore do you really think that its the hard drive's fault?

I think that I have a mainboard failure as Anorian Desian prophetically quipped on page 2, on Friday:

"It would be amusing in a macabre sort of way if the problem was a failing mainboard."

How true. As I see it, my mainboard or PSU is very very very dead, and has gotten into the habit of killing other computer parts. If you look at this entire 5-day ordeal without reading all of the details, you will see my PC and my situation in a steady decline.

At this point I basically have a 42-pound metal and silicon doorstop. If you would like to purchase a large blue doorstop you can PM me.

I figure that I have spent perhaps a hundred hours of my time attempting to resolve this issue, as well as many many hours of other peoples' time. I want to say a statement here that I hope will last me for my entire life:

I BillDCat4, will no longer attempt to be a 'techie.' I have assumed this position for the past several years, in my school, and in my home. I realize now that It is not meant for me. I do not want to be involved with this anymore. I hereby denote my status from middling techie to average computer user. I will take all that I know about computers, delete it, and empty the Recycling Bin. I will most likely never post on this forum again. I will not be known as BillDCat4 any longer. What will I do, you say? Maybe go for a walk, read a good book, pray to god. I personally think that this all was and is in God's great plan.


I would like to personally thank Anorian Desian, I Love Tacos, 4Ryan6, Jumping Jack, Verndewd, Mondoman, DaveMcMahon, as well as others.

You have no idea how amazed I am, and appreciative, that you helped me at your own expense through so much. You guys have really put yourselves at the public's service and I owe you a debt of gratitude.

I sign out now.... You can leave your condolences after this message:
I might, or I might not check back.




Good Night and Good Luck to All
a b } Memory
February 6, 2007 2:10:12 AM

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I expect no problems. None whatsoever, and if you feel differently about what I should do, please tell me; however I probably will not listen.



Your true problem is in red above, I'm not trying to offend you, just telling you like it is, a lot of people tried to help you here but you basically chose what you decided to act on, disregarding a lot of good advice.
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