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Hi, i currently have my geforce sitting inside my computer, but i cannot install any nvidia drivers, all come up with errors, saying that the it cannot detect any compatible hardware:

My power supply is sli compatibe
gf card has sufficient power and is seated properly
i can still run windows (im in 1024 x 768 defualt resolution typing this post)
ive tried the drivers from the cd, and from nvidia website
ive run windows update
ive tried driver cleaner and removed nvidia driver

no idea what to do..can anyone help?

My specs:
gigabyte GA-965P-DS3
intel 6300
2 gb geil ram
point of view geforce 8800gtx
Hiper Type-R 550

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Hi, i currently have my geforce sitting inside my computer, but i cannot install any nvidia drivers, all come up with errors, saying that the it cannot detect any compatible hardware:

My power supply is sli compatibe
gf card has sufficient power and is seated properly
i can still run windows (im in 1024 x 768 defualt resolution typing this post)
ive tried the drivers from the cd, and from nvidia website
ive run windows update
ive tried driver cleaner and removed nvidia driver

no idea what to do..can anyone help?

My specs:
gigabyte GA-965P-DS3
intel 6300
2 gb geil ram
point of view geforce 8800gtx
Hiper Type-R 550



theres a way to force install them
go to start then to control panel
then click on system
then on hardware and then to Device Manager

there should be a big "!" excalmation in the VGA
double click on it, then to "controller" tap
then click on "update controller "( or driver depends on the OS language )
then chose the correct Nvidia .inf file, and it should force the installation )
if they dont show any "compatiblehardware"


1.- Say no to windows update ( almost 99% probability it will NOT find the driver )
2.- click on the "ADVANCED" way to update the driver (it should say something like "install from a list or a specified location" )
3.- the button "Search for most adecuated driver" ( first option)
and unselect the "search in optical drivers CD, DVD" and select the second option ("include this place" ) or similar.
then click on "EXAMINE" or "BROWSE"
search the directory where the driver of nvidia is, and click next, and then let it install.

the other way is more complex, and requires you to do the same, until you get to the advanced way to update the driver (install from a list or specified location)
but you have to chose the last option "do not search, Ill select the driver to install"

to where you have to
1.- select VGA or "video device" or similars..
2.- find your .inf file of nvidia drivers.
then it should force it to get installed ( PS, it may cause errors sometimes.. )

but that has fixed me some problems with "generic" hardware.
such as my Radeon 9800 pro now defunc ( from hercules, cause hercules did stop releasing drivers for their hardware, and catalyst sometimes didnt work properly )

EDIT
before I forget: remember that the newest drivers of nvidia seems to REQUIRE the FRAMEWORK packages, download them from windowsupdate! ( framework 3 is out, I supose its for nvidia, I only have 1 and 2 with their respective service packs )

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I updated my bios to f10, rebooted, got quick repeating beeping sounds (power problem) whilst re cabling and trying to get the right config for power cables, then get a high pitched whale like squeel. This was because of the card (tested methodically by removing components).

Card doesnt fit properly into my case anyhow, so im going to have to purchase a new case (any thoughts on that?) so now i have put back in my GX2, untill i get a new case... such hassle and anoyance!

Thanks for your advice about the driver thingie btw!

Reply to cusis
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Ok so i have order the antec 900 case, should come tuesday, hopefully the 8800 will work, but unsure becuase of that high pitched whailing sound it made (very loud). Does nayone happen to know what that sound meant?

My pc has been up and running perfectly all day, so i havnt busted anything in all th ecomotion of trying to tame the 8800 into my case.

Reply to cusis

I guess it could be the fan. I'm not sure. Also, what power supply exactly do you have?

Reply to facedownwh
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Hiper Type-R 580 sli ready

Reply to cusis
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the boot beeping sound is "normal" you must have cpu fan fail alarm enabled. When you turn you're pc on, your processor fan doesnt engage until seconds later. And that alarm goes off to tell you the fan isnt spinning. Once it does, the sound goes away.

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I have waited for the cpu fan to start spinning the sound doesnt go away (it is a very high pitched contstant, not beeping, whale sound, and only thing that was causing it was when i had the gc in.

Reply to cusis

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Hiper Type-R 580 sli ready



Yeah, that should be enough to power it properly. It has 30A on the +12V rail. The beeping could be what weilin said. I've never heard of that. You're positive that you're trying the install the correct drivers? Did you try what tamalero recommended? In the end, it could just be a busted card.

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Well the first time i put the card in with BIOS F6 my pc booted up and i could go into windows fine. But i wasnt able to install the gfx card at all.

After i updated my bios everything went to hell, and then the wailing sound started.

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I have waited for the cpu fan to start spinning the sound doesnt go away (it is a very high pitched contstant, not beeping, whale sound, and only thing that was causing it was when i had the gc in.



maybe something is touching one of the fans?
btw, some videocards have very noisy fans,maybe your car comes with a very noisy one?

Reply to tamalero
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lol...no trust me this is a SCREAMING sound..there isnt a way in hell anyone could mix this up with a normal noise.

Reply to cusis
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give my idea a test, in bios turn the "fan alarm" off for both case and cpu and see if that buzzer still sounds.

Reply to weilin
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i will try it.

Reply to cusis

Like the other guys are saying, sounds to me like a fan on the video card with seized up bearings. It'll spin but loudly.

Good choice on the Antec 900. I have that case and two 8800 GTX in SLI. Great case.

High Regards,
Howard

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Like the other guys are saying, sounds to me like a fan on the video card with seized up bearings. It'll spin but loudly.

Good choice on the Antec 900. I have that case and two 8800 GTX in SLI. Great case.

High Regards,
Howard



thanks, it arrives tuesday.. how is the spacing for the 8800? any chance you could post a pic showing me how much room there is?

Reply to cusis
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I agree that i think it might be a just a bad card. I have never heard of the company that makes your card but i had a similar problem awhile back while building a friends computer with his card. I installed it and properly secured it in the case, put power to it, started the computer back up and no matter what drivers i would use nothing none would just detected it. Now i could force install but I was still getting errors while installing drivers i decided to contact Newegg ended up RMAin it back got the new one in put it in and BAM drivers found it and installed right from the start. Your PSU looks fine so does everything you have mentioned before. Have you tried contacting the maker of the card ?

Reply to fate0n3
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no not yet, going to give it another try, to 100% check everything is fitting properly, if not i will be rma'ing its but!

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Ok so i have order the antec 900 case, should come tuesday, hopefully the 8800 will work, but unsure becuase of that high pitched whailing sound it made (very loud). Does nayone happen to know what that sound meant?

My pc has been up and running perfectly all day, so i havnt busted anything in all th ecomotion of trying to tame the 8800 into my case.



I know EXACTLY what that sound means. It means that your card is not getting enought power! I have a GTX powered by one of those thermaltake add on PSU's that go in the cd drive bay. If I boot my computer without that power supply turned on, the card makes the high pitch squeel that you are hearing. If you look at the card from the cooler side, you will see the little speaker (Upper right if i remember correctly).

Make sure you have both 12V cables securely connected. If this still doesn't work I bet your psu doesn't have enough juice to run the card.

Reply to Jazzman1284

Sorry cusis,
No such luck. The only digital camera I have my old lady has. I will say the fit is kind of tight, but they will fit with no problems.

Sorry about not being able to supply a pic :(

One 8800 GTX will be no problem trust me.

High Regards,
Howard

Edit: misspelled cusis

Reply to Howard_Stern

I blame Dick Cheney

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

That is exactly what it means! That it is not getting enough power (the VGA). Power the card using a dedicated power line from the PSU. And make sure all the plugs are pushed all the way in and secure. Good luck

Reply to darkguset

That may be possible, but if it is, how come the op can run windows or even boot? That means it's at least getting enough power to run (you'll need both 6 volt lines for gaming though), so I think it's something else causing the problems

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

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That may be possible, but if it is, how come the op can run windows or even boot? That means it's at least getting enough power to run (you'll need both 6 volt lines for gaming though), so I think it's something else causing the problems



You are right, i forgot about the fact that he can boot into Windows. In that case it seems the card is faulty. Try installing the card in a friends rig, see if you get the same behaviour.

Reply to darkguset

May just be windows based problems though, windows seems to do that a lot now

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That may be possible, but if it is, how come the op can run windows or even boot? That means it's at least getting enough power to run (you'll need both 6 volt lines for gaming though), so I think it's something else causing the problems



ok first off some points...

1. the loud noise could still be attributed to the vid card not getting enough power, nvidia cards simply underclock themselves when they dont have enough power. (make sure both power cables are plugged in the card)

2. Could you please post the make and model of your PSU or atleast put down the amount of amps on the 12 volt rails.

3. the driver issue, are you upgrading your card from a ATI? or even a old Nvidia, its probably not showing up in control panel because you forgot to uninstall old drivers first then install new ones(try this)

4. where did the high pitched noise come from, im in a flat at the moment which doesnt exactly have clean electricity my speakers will hiss at me every so often and i have had them screech loudy at me before the fuse blew, (luckily i have a very high quality PSU in my computer so my components dont fry)

now im gonna bitch slap you(u dont have to read but you should),

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i can still run windows (im in 1024 x 768 defualt resolution typing this post)



what in gods name do you need a 8800GTX for? when you are running at a default res of only 1024*768, have you any idea how much money you just wasted, you will actually get worse performance at that res cause the CPU will become the bottleneck. you should of stayed with the GX2 till you could afford the large 30" monitor you need to utilise this card. infact your wasting the power of the GX2 aswell.

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I have waited for the cpu fan to start spinning the sound doesnt go away (it is a very high pitched contstant, not beeping, whale sound, and only thing that was causing it was when i had the gc in.



Its because your PSU is not supplying sufficient enough power to the 8800GTX. There is a whole forum about this on nvnews.net.

All 8800GTX's make that high pitched sound when they are not being fed enough power from the PSU. I have an 8800GTX myself so I know exactly what I am talking about.


Im sorry to say but that PSU you have is not the best in the world and dual rail psu's in general do not do well with a high end system with high power requirements.


http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=80187

Reply to RobsX2

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I have waited for the cpu fan to start spinning the sound doesnt go away (it is a very high pitched contstant, not beeping, whale sound, and only thing that was causing it was when i had the gc in.



Its because your PSU is not supplying sufficient enough power to the 8800GTX. There is a whole forum about this on nvnews.net.

All 8800GTX's make that high pitched sound when they are not being fed enough power from the PSU. I have an 8800GTX myself so I know exactly what I am talking about.


Im sorry to say but that PSU you have is not the best in the world and dual rail psu's in general do not do well with a high end system with high power requirements.


http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=80187

Buddy!! Haven't seen you around lately, but I agree with rob, the most overlooked part of a pc is the psu. Hiper makes a nice modular psu, but teh efficiency on it isn't that great, so what the top output on it maybe is around 550w, what you're actually getting is most likely around 400 something, kinda pushing it right there, here' s a psu guaranteed to keep a 8800gtx well fed and happy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703005
Not the best looking, but you won't find a better psu with the efficiency and durability of that thing

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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I bet your psu doesn't have enough juice to run the card.



That is exactly what his problem is. I have seen this issue before many times and its always from insufficient power.


Dual rails are not the best for high end systems (much less a cheap one like the hiper) with high power requirements because of the way the rails are split up. You end up starving certain components of the proper amperage that they require in order to correctly function.

Reply to RobsX2
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1. the loud noise could still be attributed to the vid card not getting enough power



Bingo!

Reply to RobsX2

Yes, Hiper is like the zalman of psu's, they look great, but aren't efficient like pc p&c.




heh, I just realized I have the highest post/day count in all of forums, wow, guess I need to find something better to do lol

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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here' s a psu guaranteed to keep a 8800gtx well fed and happy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703005
Not the best looking, but you won't find a better psu with the efficiency and durability of that thing



Good find Taco :wink:

This one will also do the job really well for a bit less $$$. My friend is using this one and it powers his Opteron @3.1ghz and his 8800GTX at 630core and 2030mem.

The 12v rail stays rock stable the whole time.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817103437

Reply to RobsX2
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The problem with some dual rail PSU's are due to the fact that high end video cards can end up overloading one of the rail's on some multi rail power supply's.

Dual rail and cheap + 8800GTX = bad Idea.

Reply to RobsX2

I prefer ocz over enermax for less, but it's good too
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341001
But I think pc p&c is the best no question

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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I prefer ocz over enermax for less, but it's good too
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341001
But I think pc p&c is the best no question



The OCZ is nice but believe me when I tell you that a stout single 12v rail psu is a better choice rather than a multi rail psu when it comes to a high end gaming rig with a power eating card such as the 8800GTX.

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But I think pc p&c is the best no question



So do I, thats why I have one. :wink:

Reply to RobsX2

no fair, I have an antec! But I'm running a 6600gt, so I don't really need an excellent 12v rail psu

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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no fair, I have an antec! But I'm running a 6600gt, so I don't really need an excellent 12v rail psu



This is mine, I got it for $199.00 off of newegg back when they first got them in stock. :wink:

http://www.pcpower.com/products/vi [...] iew=photos


60amps on a single 12v rail 8)


Ohhh.....Looks so sexy in here! LOL!

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o62/Robs03EGTS/Picture007-1.jpg

Reply to RobsX2

It is indeed, but I think that you'll find this even better
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm? [...] 1520628479

I even got ninja to laugh xD

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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It is indeed, but I think that you'll find this even better
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm? [...] 1520628479

I even got ninja to laugh xD



Dude! LOL wth is that?

Reply to RobsX2

naroto, butt this is better (notice the spelling...)
http://video.google.com/videoplay? [...] cket&hl=en

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

I gotta go to bed, so I'll leave you with my favorite comedian to keep you content for now
http://video.google.com/videoplay? [...] +now&hl=en

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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Guys Guys Guys...let me clear something up!

First time i put the card into the pc it booted up. But i couldnt install it, then i figured it was probably cos it wasnt powered up correctly.

After reading my psu manual on how to set up the gf card (very confused, still done think i got it right) i wasnt able to get past that speeling noise.

Reply to cusis

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Ok so i have order the antec 900 case, should come tuesday, hopefully the 8800 will work


You still have to remove the optional 120mm fan holder (black plastic) in front of the drive cage in the Antec 900 in order for the 8800GTX to fit in the first PCI-E slot in the case. I had to remove mine. It was no big deal and straight forward but necessary.

Reply to Nomans63
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Ok so i have order the antec 900 case, should come tuesday, hopefully the 8800 will work


You still have to remove the optional 120mm fan holder (black plastic) in front of the drive cage in the Antec 900 in order for the 8800GTX to fit in the first PCI-E slot in the case. I had to remove mine. It was no big deal and straight forward but necessary.

Can the black fan be put somewhere else? for example, can it be moved up or down?

Reply to cusis

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Can the black fan be put somewhere else? for example, can it be moved up or down?


It's an optional fan holder (a black plastic cage), not the fan. The Antec 900 already comes with 3 x 120 mm fan (2 front intakes, 1 rear exhaust) and one huge 200 mm on top. so it's kinda waste for me to put any opional fan right there. The optional 120 mm fan on the clear side window would make more sense to me.
Yes, I think you can move it down to the 2. drive cage, if you want. But what devices do you want to cool down there? May be your Sound Blaster X-Fi or TV Tuner? The optional fan on the 1. drive cage seems to be more useful to me because it would help cooling the memory and the video card (however, in case of the overlong high-end card like the 8800GTX, it actually causes more problems)

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Guys Guys Guys...let me clear something up!

First time i put the card into the pc it booted up. But i couldnt install it, then i figured it was probably cos it wasnt powered up correctly.

After reading my psu manual on how to set up the gf card (very confused, still done think i got it right) i wasnt able to get past that speeling noise.




Did you even bother to read into this link? http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=80187

And just because you were able to boot to windows one time doesnt mean a thing. The noise you are describing is indeed the type of noise that these cards sound off when not properly powered. I have seen and heard it before myself and thats why I am telling you its your PSU. Read that link that I took the time to paste here and you will see that I am not the only person talking about it.

Otherwise you can keep searching for your needle in a haystack :roll:

Reply to RobsX2
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ok rob no need to get offended, i trust in your advice, i didnt see the link the first time, i will look at the link.

Ill keep you posted on my progress. When you say it isnt getting enough from my psu are you saying i have cabled it wrong, or that my psu isnt capable?

Reply to cusis
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ok rob no need to get offended, i trust in your advice, i didnt see the link the first time, i will look at the link.

Ill keep you posted on my progress. When you say it isnt getting enough from my psu are you saying i have cabled it wrong, or that my psu isnt capable?



Well im not getting offended, I just hate to see someone running in circles trying to fix something else thats not causing the problem.


It would also be pretty hard to mess up connecting your PSU to the 8800GTX unless you just dont realize that both 6pin connectors on the GPU have to be plugged in. Or if your PSU doesnt come with 2 6pin connectors then I will assume you are using an adapter. Its really pretty much dummy proof on the way you connect it.


Bottom line is if you have the GTX properly connected and its still screeching at you when you power the computer on then yes, I would say its your PSU for sure.

Reply to RobsX2
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Thing is tho, is that my psu is sli ready, its a 580w, by my slim knowledge this should work. Do you know much about psu's? and if so do you know much about my psu? have people had problems with it before regarding sli/8800.

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