What infrastructure will Nextel-sprint Use

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In article <10s0jbnid1rqvd2@corp.supernews.com>,
Ralph Blach <rblach@NOSPAMintrex..XXXnet> wrote:

> I was wondering what infrastructure Sprint/Nextel use?
>
> Chip

iDen is going away.

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John,

What ever it is will have to have push to talk that works as Well
as IDEN.

Otherwise, the advantages of purchasing Nextel goes away, and so do
the corporate customers who pay a lot for that service.

Chip


John Navas wrote:
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> In <10s0jbnid1rqvd2@corp.supernews.com> on Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:42:48 -0500,
> Ralph Blach <rblach@NOSPAMintrex..XXXnet> wrote:
>
>
>>I was wondering what infrastructure Sprint/Nextel use?
>
>
> Sprint is CDMA.
>
> Nextel is iDEN, but reportedly thinking of migration to CDMA.
>

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"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> iden is going away, as it wouldn't allow upgrades to allow high speed
> internet, indeed that is what pushed Nextel into the merger,

Not true- there was already a very successful test of high speed data in NC
using the iDen network.


> i.e. the 3 + billion cost of upgrading/converting, which it can now
> avoid. Sprint already has a form of Push to Talk, and by owning Nextel
> it can improve that functionalty without fear of infringing on Nextel
> patents which it will own after the merger.

Wrong again- the iDen PTT product will continue to operate (even after
cellular migration to CDMA) until new CDMA PTT technology is developed- not
a redesign of the Sprint PTT. You probably should have watched the press
conference this morning before babbling on about things you know nothing
about.


Glad to see that your record of not having a clue is intact.

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In <s9-dnamHG8rcSl3cRVn-pw@adelphia.com> on Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:31:13 -0700,
"Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote:

>"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:jzwick3-4876CB.11381115122004@news1.west.earthlink.net...
>
>> iden is going away, as it wouldn't allow upgrades to allow high speed
>> internet, indeed that is what pushed Nextel into the merger,
>
>Not true- there was already a very successful test of high speed data in NC
>using the iDen network.

High-speed data, yes, but not iDEN -- it was actually Flarion FLASH-OFDM:
http://www.dailywireless.org/modul [...] e&sid=2031
http://www.nextelbroadband.com/

>> i.e. the 3 + billion cost of upgrading/converting, which it can now
>> avoid. Sprint already has a form of Push to Talk, and by owning Nextel
>> it can improve that functionalty without fear of infringing on Nextel
>> patents which it will own after the merger.
>
>Wrong again- the iDen PTT product will continue to operate (even after
>cellular migration to CDMA) until new CDMA PTT technology is developed- not
>a redesign of the Sprint PTT. ...

True, but that's actually bad news for Sprint-Nextel, since subscribers will
have to make a choice between PTT (iDEN) or high-speed data (Sprint Vision),
and the CDMA latency problem may be difficult to overcome.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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>
> True, but that's actually bad news for Sprint-Nextel, since subscribers
will
> have to make a choice between PTT (iDEN) or high-speed data (Sprint
Vision),
> and the CDMA latency problem may be difficult to overcome.
>
> --

Motorola announced today that they'll have a dual mode phone available to
the company in 2006. No need to choose between platforms.

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> In <7NWdncDr5Pi8dl3cRVn-1g@adelphia.com> on Wed, 15 Dec 2004
18:56:02 -0700,
> "Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> >"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> >news:L35wd.12314$_3.136130@typhoon.sonic.net...
> >
> >> True, but that's actually bad news for Sprint-Nextel, since subscribers
> >will
> >> have to make a choice between PTT (iDEN) or high-speed data (Sprint
> >Vision),
> >> and the CDMA latency problem may be difficult to overcome.
> >
> >Motorola announced today that they'll have a dual mode phone available to
> >the company in 2006. No need to choose between platforms.
>
> If (1) it works and (2) you're willing to buy a new phone.
> --

And your reason for doubting the functionality of this compared to any other
dual mode phone is.......?

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> In <jaKdnTrHQcvh2l_cRVn-qQ@adelphia.com> on Thu, 16 Dec 2004
19:42:20 -0700,
> "Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> >"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> >news:zlbwd.12356$_3.137407@typhoon.sonic.net...
> >>
> >> In <7NWdncDr5Pi8dl3cRVn-1g@adelphia.com> on Wed, 15 Dec 2004
> >18:56:02 -0700,
> >> "Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> >> >Motorola announced today that they'll have a dual mode phone available
to
> >> >the company in 2006. No need to choose between platforms.
> >>
> >> If (1) it works and (2) you're willing to buy a new phone.
> >
> >And your reason for doubting the functionality of this compared to any
other
> >dual mode phone is.......?
>
> It's still vaporware,

True, but no more than any other unreleased product.

> and Motorola has a spotty record in delivering on
> long-range technology pronouncements.

Not with iDen and Nextel- the exclusivity of their agreement has led to
pretty much in-time delivery of any new technology. Nextel has owned the
rights for over two years to iDen-CDMA bridge technology and has admitted
talking to Sprint as early as February of this year. Wanna bet that
development of the phone is at least a year old?

>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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John Navas wrote:
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> In <u9n1s0lf5hs2o0iv8kjlp1uqtcprfhm04g@4ax.com> on Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:58:41
> -0800, Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:42:48 -0500, Ralph Blach
>><rblach@NOSPAMintrex..XXXnet> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I was wondering what infrastructure Sprint/Nextel use?
>>
>>They run a CDMA technology network. ...
>
>
> That's Sprint. Nextel is iDEN.
>
Talked to a sprint rep. They have No idea.
Basically, they will have to keep the Iden around for a long time,
because iden has push to talk. Even the sprint Rep said that Iden had
it all over cdma with push to talk.

So for the next two or three years, its Iden.

And that is a long time.

Chip