A very p!ssed of AMD enthusiast! Shall I jump ship to Intel?

Your too much, in reality, those things would probably boost your gaming experience by 1 - 3 FPS which your eyes wont even notice a difference unless you have a stinker gfx card. If you dont play games, then the timing or speed of RAM probably boosts your Applications by 1 - 5 seconds accordingly which to most of us is "who gives a shit about 5 secs?"

If you want something extremely fast, just get a X6800 or QX6700 ?!?!?!

I think you'd be crazy to switch, just because of the RAM speed/latencies. You said all was good until you read some articles, so remember that. I'm sure it performs fine, and a 10-20% increase in power isn't worth the potential cost. GL

:?: Have you tried your own benchmarks? Sounds to me like your gettin caught up in the team Green vs team Blue hype :!: THG forumz is overrun by intel fanboys, bad place to ask 8O

I don't think you'll see anything "noticeable" in the real world. I'd say return the last purchase and try turning the CAS rate down slowly. Most good 667/800 will do 4-3-4-9. You may need to tweak the RAM voltage slightly.

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Yes, and half of those with a green avatar are spies.

That is definitely what I will do now.

I have been reading about AM2+ and AM3 and how the K8L processor is backwards compatible with AM2. What are the current rumors regarding the release of the new K8L Barcelona CPU :?:

Find something else to be pissed at: like the fact you have NO LIFE!

Promises are stellar for now; 40% over Core2, and if they keep even a 1/2 ratio on them you'll be just fine (and those with a S939 CPU like me p|ssed ).

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That guy actually says " Oh, I see....ha ha ha ha .....all right !!!!!
Just before Zheng puts foot in all of their a**es.

Who's that to? Better not be me, mate ;D

To tell you the truth, this latency timing non sense is plain silly. I just hope they sort it out for AM3. Anyways, I will be returning the Ram for some cheaper Cas5 ram.

For the people who think my question is "trivial". I had a perfectly genuine question regarding performance between timings and ram speed, one which many people may find confusing. I had invested in expensive ram for the sake of Cas4 which only runs as Cas5 stable with my overclock, when obviously (now I know) it only makes no more than 5% performance increase compared to Cas5, which is not worth it.

Just don't hate man.

Well said, same goes to Mobius...

I think speedemon said it in good heart. But Mobius, what a c*nt...

Are you running the old RAM as well as the new RAM?

i like my timings set at 36- 24- 38

everything else is a waste

The L3 they are introducing will pretty much erase latency issues, especially in single-threaded apps as AMD reports that one core CAN use the whole 2MB L3.

Like i said, you won't see a big difference and when Kuma comes out you should get a NICE increase.

Considering my previous 7 processors were all AMD, I think my input might be "non-biased". I've had a 2000+, 2400+, 2800+ Socket A. I've had a 3200+ 754. I've had a 3000+, 3800+, and a 4400+ X2 939. I thought the 4400 X2 was the end all, be all. I built my current setup out of curiosity, after hearing all of the buzz. The buzz was right. This spanks the 4400+ all the way around and it overclocks like there's no tomorrow. The only thing I might have changed is maybe getting a E6400 instead, only because of the higher OC potential over stock. It turns out that the P965 chipset has a trick up it's sleeve. It seems that dropping the stock multiplier from say 8x to 7x actually increases the northbridge FSB. My computer runs considerably better at 8x450mhz compared to 9x400mhz. Both settings come out to 3.6 ghz. But the 8x450 actually increases the northbridge fsb to 506, instead of 450. That also increases my CPU to 4.05ghz, several tests confirm it. Here's the link to the article that showed all the math...
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=30

Now as for the original author's query, If you're that dissappointed in AMD's layout/performance, I'd wait a few months for the Intel Core 2 Duo;s prices to drop, as they're scheduled to. The E6300 is supposed to drop from the 180s to $113!

Considering my previous 7 processors were all AMD, I think my input might be "non-biased". I've had a 2000+, 2400+, 2800+ Socket A. I've had a 3200+ 754. I've had a 3000+, 3800+, and a 4400+ X2 939. I thought the 4400 X2 was the end all, be all. I built my current setup out of curiosity, after hearing all of the buzz. The buzz was right. This spanks the 4400+ all the way around and it overclocks like there's no tomorrow. The only thing I might have changed is maybe getting a E6400 instead, only because of the higher OC potential over stock. It turns out that the P965 chipset has a trick up it's sleeve. It seems that dropping the stock multiplier from say 8x to 7x actually increases the northbridge FSB. My computer runs considerably better at 8x450mhz compared to 9x400mhz. Both settings come out to 3.6 ghz. But the 8x450 actually increases the northbridge fsb to 506, instead of 450. That also increases my CPU to 4.05ghz, several tests confirm it. Here's the link to the article that showed all the math...
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=30

Now as for the original author's query, If you're that dissappointed in AMD's layout/performance, I'd wait a few months for the Intel Core 2 Duo;s prices to drop, as they're scheduled to. The E6300 is supposed to drop from the 180s to $113!

I also jumped ship to INTEL after having 4 AMD rigs in spite of my like for AMD the performace just wasn't there when I built my last rig so E6400 was the winner. If you can get by I would wait for the price drop in Q2 if you want to go Core2Duo. You can of course wait for AMD to take the performance crown back but who actually knows when that is.