7600GS vs. x800pro
On the AGP platform which of those would be better for games, particulaly in Oblivion? I'm running an x800 pro, 256MB right now, but my dad has a 7600GS 256MB lieing around. I can;t see to find a direct comparison between these too, only other derivatives of the x800. My x800 pro doesnt seem to overclock aprticualrly well either, so should that be a consideration?
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
Quote:of course 7600 gs is a better choise.
I disagree. I don't at all think it's an Obvious clear cut answer.
The X800 pro would easily win more games than it loses against the 7600GS. In Oblivion, it would offer much higher framerates than the 7600GS, if you use FSAA & Bloom lighting. The X800XL spanks a 7600GT running FSAA in Oblvion as was seen in Firingsquads Oblvion 3D performance test. If the X800XL can outperform the GT, the X800 pro could outperform the GS.
The shortfall of the X800 pro is no HDR in Oblivion. So many folks would say right off the bat, the 7600GS is better. Maybe this is what you were getting at. But the 7600GS is on the weak side to be running HDR (weak side for Oblivion too), but at least it can do it. You can't run fsaa at the same time, resolution and details will be fairly low, so alaising will be noticable IMO.
So to answer the OP, it depends if he wants the better performing card running FSAA(X800 pro), or if he wants to turn down a few settings, put up with the jaggies, and use the beautiful HDR(7600GS). Personally, I like Oblivions HDR, but at 10x7 res or lower the jaggies drive me nuts. I split my time with a 6800U running it both ways and in the end wasn't happy with having to choose one or the other so I bought a X1800XT and ran both at once with higher details to boot. And the 6800U > 7600GS. Really it's personal preference.
I used the 7600 GS to play Oblivion and it does a pretty creditable job. The 7600 GS offers both HDR and Bloom and i used both, but not at the same time; it looks okay, but i turn it off. I get about 20 to 30 fps for the exterior scenes and 40 to 50 fps for interior spaces. However i get these kinds of frame rates, because i have modified the grass count and polygons. You can find out how to do this on the web, but i lost the link for that. My suggestion would be to go with 7600GS, but if price is important to you go X800pro.
I have both in hand, so I don't need to buy either. And I've already done all that Landscape LOD, grass tiling, .ini tweaks and that, and just looking for raw performance. HDR is nice, but I don't find it massively better then bloom, and not worth the performance hit if the 7600GS is a fair bit slower then an x800 pro
I totally agree with you Pauldh.
The only advantage the 7600GS has over the X800pro is sm 3.0 and Open EXR HDR, both of which the 7600GS isn't near powerful enough to really take advantage of. On top of that, ATI cards seem to handle Oblivion better that Nvidia (the exception being the 8800 series).
Quote:I have both in hand, so I don't need to buy either. And I've already done all that Landscape LOD, grass tiling, .ini tweaks and that, and just looking for raw performance. HDR is nice, but I don't find it massively better then bloom, and not worth the performance hit if the 7600GS is a fair bit slower then an x800 pro
Take a look at these Oblivion Benchmarks; Their Gate Benchmark is the most GPU demanding one where all the cards get the lowest FPS, so lets look at that.
X800 Pro Average 28.6 fps with a low of about 24 fps.
7600GS Average 19.9 fps with a low of about 15 fps.
That's a total stomping with the X800 pro coming in on top 9 fps average and 9 fps min fps above the 7600GS. Shoot that put's it 40-60% above the 7600GS.
Like kaotao and I said, if you want HDR you can't use the X800 pro. If you want bloom or FSAA/bloom, the X800 pro will offer way more Oblivion performance than the 7600GS. Matter of fact, in the stressful outdoors, the X800 pro was a match for the 7600GT even, with <2 fps lower on the average, but about the same ahead on the low fps.