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We've all finally agreed that it's time to move up to HDTV (from an
old 19" set). I am seeking tips on what & where to buy.

Here's what we're looking for:
16:9 direct view
HD-Ready (will rent STB from Comcast)
30" to 32" (picture quality is much more impt than size)

Here're my questions:
Do you have a HDTV along these lines that you love or wish you'd
bought?
What stores or websites are best in terms of prices and
trustworthiness?

I'm in the Rockville, MD area. Thanks in advance for your opinions
and advice.

John

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"JYellott" <jehartge@excite.com> wrote in message
news:13b955c9.0406211142.47d7c7f7@posting.google.com...
> We've all finally agreed that it's time to move up to HDTV (from an
> old 19" set). I am seeking tips on what & where to buy.
>
> Here's what we're looking for:
> 16:9 direct view
> HD-Ready (will rent STB from Comcast)
> 30" to 32" (picture quality is much more impt than size)
>
> Here're my questions:
> Do you have a HDTV along these lines that you love or wish you'd
> bought?
> What stores or websites are best in terms of prices and
> trustworthiness?
>
> I'm in the Rockville, MD area. Thanks in advance for your opinions
> and advice.
>
> John

Youre gonna love how much better the picture is from an old 19"...

I have a 32" Samsung 4:3 HDTV, and a 57" Sony 16:9 HDTV and I love both of
them... if you can afford the big screen and have room for it, I do
recommend it, but at the same time I have never been dissapointed with my
4:3 32", even though I lose the sides of my HD shows (which is normally off
camera crud anyhow).

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JYellott wrote:
>
> We've all finally agreed that it's time to move up to HDTV (from an
> old 19" set). I am seeking tips on what & where to buy.
>
> Here's what we're looking for:
> 16:9 direct view
> HD-Ready (will rent STB from Comcast)
> 30" to 32" (picture quality is much more impt than size)
>
> Here're my questions:
> Do you have a HDTV along these lines that you love or wish you'd
> bought?
> What stores or websites are best in terms of prices and
> trustworthiness?
>
> I'm in the Rockville, MD area. Thanks in advance for your opinions
> and advice.
>
> John


John:

CRT HDTV sets are 16:9 come in 27", 30" or 34" diagonal in size....

At $1000, you are pinching your self in to a corner.... where you
will

get reduced TV features, ie: No pic in Pic or lesser speaker quality
OR

poorer Analog 4:3 picture quality.....

The brand new Mod Year 2005 Sony 30HS420 at $999 Retail or less

will meet your HD criterion... With poorer sound, no Pic in Pic,

and possibly short a conventional Analog tuner??

If you buy lesser costing CRT HD units.....

Analog picture quality & adjustment suffer.....

The 2005 HD CRT models are just beginning to show with lower

Prices & more features in the $1500 range... Tuff Call....

HD Picture quality usually OK, Analog 4:3 picture quality on

Digital sets varies all over the map.... Sony is usually a HD
winner....

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Don't even consider 4:3.
This looks good
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/ [...] 668WHFXXAA
OK it's only 26",but Sears has it for around $600
You can order it online or pick it up at your nearest Sears store.

--
A widescreen edition of a movie presents the film frame as it was seen in
the movie theater. This is the version that best preserves the filmmaker's
original intent.

End of story!
"JYellott" <jehartge@excite.com> wrote in message
news:13b955c9.0406211142.47d7c7f7@posting.google.com...
> We've all finally agreed that it's time to move up to HDTV (from an
> old 19" set). I am seeking tips on what & where to buy.
>
> Here's what we're looking for:
> 16:9 direct view
> HD-Ready (will rent STB from Comcast)
> 30" to 32" (picture quality is much more impt than size)
>
> Here're my questions:
> Do you have a HDTV along these lines that you love or wish you'd
> bought?
> What stores or websites are best in terms of prices and
> trustworthiness?
>
> I'm in the Rockville, MD area. Thanks in advance for your opinions
> and advice.
>
> John

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Try a sanyo 30" 16-9 with the tuner build in for digital and analog you will
not be disappointed.

"JYellott" <jehartge@excite.com> wrote in message
news:13b955c9.0406211142.47d7c7f7@posting.google.com...
> We've all finally agreed that it's time to move up to HDTV (from an
> old 19" set). I am seeking tips on what & where to buy.
>
> Here's what we're looking for:
> 16:9 direct view
> HD-Ready (will rent STB from Comcast)
> 30" to 32" (picture quality is much more impt than size)
>
> Here're my questions:
> Do you have a HDTV along these lines that you love or wish you'd
> bought?
> What stores or websites are best in terms of prices and
> trustworthiness?
>
> I'm in the Rockville, MD area. Thanks in advance for your opinions
> and advice.
>
> John
>

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hey John,
i just ordered a Sony 30" HDTV, the KV30HS420. the price actually went down
over the weekend at Circuit City from $1000 to $925. picture looks pretty
amazing. that capped off a week of exhaustive research about all this HDTV
stuff, which i'm very new to.

from others' inputs, sounds like your best places to shop are local
specialty stores and smaller chains. i also have had a lot of good
experiences (as well as the rest of my family) at Circuit City w/ various
products. definitely, don't rush. take your time to do your research so
you feel comfortable with all the terms....there's a bunch!

i was also looking for a smaller TV, same price range. HDTV's in 16:9
format aren't readily available at that smaller size.

some VERY useful websites i've found:
http://www.hdtvoice.com/voice/index.php?s=
http://www.keohi.com/keohihdtv/
http://www.htadvice.com/index.html

good luck.

mk

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"Jim Fraas" <jafraas@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Don't even consider 4:3.
> This looks good
>
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/ [...] 668WHFXXAA
> OK it's only 26",but Sears has it for around $600
> You can order it online or pick it up at your nearest Sears store.
>
> --

I HEARTILY disagree. My 32" 4:3 Samsung (for around 900 now adays) is an
awseome TV. Sure a 34" 16:9 would be better, but it costs more.

Whats the point of even getting an HDTV at 26", its so small you cant notice
the increased detail!

And HD Content looks WONDERFUL on my 32" 4:3... no complaints here... I have
it zoomed so it cuts off the sides of the 16:9 content, but it fills the
entire screen, and I dont miss anything important. I have had it this way
for a year and I am very veyr happy with it.

But, it is possible for a bit over 1000 to get a 42" RPTV, though the
picture wont be nearly as vivid as a CRT Direct View.

COming from someone who has both 4:3 and 16:9... its not that big a deal.

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If you zoom in your HD content so it cuts off the sides of the 16:9 (or
other widescreen) content, that's a good reason why nobody should listen to
your musings on what to do or not do when it comes to HD.

Films shot in aspects of 16:9 or other widescreen formats were mean't to be
viewed that way. Not zoomed in cutting off the ends of the frame like pan &
scan (without the panning).

Your assertion that "I dont miss anything important" is false.

In many movies you would be cutting off very important information.
Especially scenes where they have two people talking on opposite sides of a
table framed for widescreen for example.

Sheesh..

Maybe it's just me, but I can't STAND watching anything in a zoomed format.
I want to see my programs in the original aspect they were supposed to be
viewed in viewing the entire frame. No thank you to squashed/stretched and
otherwise distorted programming.

Live with the black (or grey) bars and watch your programs the way they were
mean't to be viewed.

-- Bob

"Jason" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:cb9dn5$10i$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu...
>
> "Jim Fraas" <jafraas@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ZqJBc.91296$Sw.66547@attbi_s51...
> > Don't even consider 4:3.
> > This looks good
> >
>
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/ [...] 668WHFXXAA
> > OK it's only 26",but Sears has it for around $600
> > You can order it online or pick it up at your nearest Sears store.
> >
> > --
>
> I HEARTILY disagree. My 32" 4:3 Samsung (for around 900 now adays) is an
> awseome TV. Sure a 34" 16:9 would be better, but it costs more.
>
> Whats the point of even getting an HDTV at 26", its so small you cant
notice
> the increased detail!
>
> And HD Content looks WONDERFUL on my 32" 4:3... no complaints here... I
have
> it zoomed so it cuts off the sides of the 16:9 content, but it fills the
> entire screen, and I dont miss anything important. I have had it this way
> for a year and I am very veyr happy with it.
>
> But, it is possible for a bit over 1000 to get a 42" RPTV, though the
> picture wont be nearly as vivid as a CRT Direct View.
>
> COming from someone who has both 4:3 and 16:9... its not that big a deal.
>
>

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I have TWO HDTVs, a 16:9 and a 4:3, and I tell you 90% of the time I miss
NOTHING important (and I cant really even tell I am missing anything at all,
except when text is displayed). You can't say I am false if you don't view
both, how would you even know? Nothing is stretched or squashed, sorry. And
at any rate. movies are not shot at 16:9 so you still end up with black bars
or missing content anyhow.

Now, if you have the money, get a 16:9, if you don't, its not the HUGE loss
Bob is making it out to be. But of course, we are each entitled to our own
opinions.

"Bob Lindabury" <bob@lindabury.net-nospam> wrote in message
news:VBgCc.113570$V57.21534349@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> If you zoom in your HD content so it cuts off the sides of the 16:9 (or
> other widescreen) content, that's a good reason why nobody should listen
to
> your musings on what to do or not do when it comes to HD.
>
> Films shot in aspects of 16:9 or other widescreen formats were mean't to
be
> viewed that way. Not zoomed in cutting off the ends of the frame like pan
&
> scan (without the panning).
>
> Your assertion that "I dont miss anything important" is false.
>
> In many movies you would be cutting off very important information.
> Especially scenes where they have two people talking on opposite sides of
a
> table framed for widescreen for example.
>
> Sheesh..
>
> Maybe it's just me, but I can't STAND watching anything in a zoomed
format.
> I want to see my programs in the original aspect they were supposed to be
> viewed in viewing the entire frame. No thank you to squashed/stretched
and
> otherwise distorted programming.
>
> Live with the black (or grey) bars and watch your programs the way they
were
> mean't to be viewed.
>
> -- Bob
>
> "Jason" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:cb9dn5$10i$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu...
> >
> > "Jim Fraas" <jafraas@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZqJBc.91296$Sw.66547@attbi_s51...
> > > Don't even consider 4:3.
> > > This looks good
> > >
> >
>
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/ [...] 668WHFXXAA
> > > OK it's only 26",but Sears has it for around $600
> > > You can order it online or pick it up at your nearest Sears store.
> > >
> > > --
> >
> > I HEARTILY disagree. My 32" 4:3 Samsung (for around 900 now adays) is
an
> > awseome TV. Sure a 34" 16:9 would be better, but it costs more.
> >
> > Whats the point of even getting an HDTV at 26", its so small you cant
> notice
> > the increased detail!
> >
> > And HD Content looks WONDERFUL on my 32" 4:3... no complaints here... I
> have
> > it zoomed so it cuts off the sides of the 16:9 content, but it fills the
> > entire screen, and I dont miss anything important. I have had it this
way
> > for a year and I am very veyr happy with it.
> >
> > But, it is possible for a bit over 1000 to get a 42" RPTV, though the
> > picture wont be nearly as vivid as a CRT Direct View.
> >
> > COming from someone who has both 4:3 and 16:9... its not that big a
deal.
> >
> >
>
>

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My point was that if you view the source in the aspect it was supposed to be
viewed in WITH black bars either on the sides or top/bottom, you will
absolutely never miss seeing anything and you will see the source program
the way it was supposed to be viewed.

I've looked at many a HDTV setup and I don't care if they call it zoom 1,
zoom 2, panoramic zoom or best zoom in the world, it still distorts the
original source material or, in the case of a straight zoom, cuts off the
sides and/or top/bottom of the source material.

I've been to way too many people's houses where it's just annoying as hell
because they have some kind of zoom set for just about every type of
programming.

But then, I'm just picky I guess.

-- Bob

"Jason" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:cbc7il$p3e$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu...
> I have TWO HDTVs, a 16:9 and a 4:3, and I tell you 90% of the time I miss
> NOTHING important (and I cant really even tell I am missing anything at
all,
> except when text is displayed). You can't say I am false if you don't
view
> both, how would you even know? Nothing is stretched or squashed, sorry.
And
> at any rate. movies are not shot at 16:9 so you still end up with black
bars
> or missing content anyhow.
>
> Now, if you have the money, get a 16:9, if you don't, its not the HUGE
loss
> Bob is making it out to be. But of course, we are each entitled to our
own
> opinions.
>
> "Bob Lindabury" <bob@lindabury.net-nospam> wrote in message
> news:VBgCc.113570$V57.21534349@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> > If you zoom in your HD content so it cuts off the sides of the 16:9 (or
> > other widescreen) content, that's a good reason why nobody should listen
> to
> > your musings on what to do or not do when it comes to HD.
> >
> > Films shot in aspects of 16:9 or other widescreen formats were mean't to
> be
> > viewed that way. Not zoomed in cutting off the ends of the frame like
pan
> &
> > scan (without the panning).
> >
> > Your assertion that "I dont miss anything important" is false.
> >
> > In many movies you would be cutting off very important information.
> > Especially scenes where they have two people talking on opposite sides
of
> a
> > table framed for widescreen for example.
> >
> > Sheesh..
> >
> > Maybe it's just me, but I can't STAND watching anything in a zoomed
> format.
> > I want to see my programs in the original aspect they were supposed to
be
> > viewed in viewing the entire frame. No thank you to squashed/stretched
> and
> > otherwise distorted programming.
> >
> > Live with the black (or grey) bars and watch your programs the way they
> were
> > mean't to be viewed.
> >
> > -- Bob
> >
> > "Jason" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> > news:cb9dn5$10i$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu...
> > >
> > > "Jim Fraas" <jafraas@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ZqJBc.91296$Sw.66547@attbi_s51...
> > > > Don't even consider 4:3.
> > > > This looks good
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/ [...] 668WHFXXAA
> > > > OK it's only 26",but Sears has it for around $600
> > > > You can order it online or pick it up at your nearest Sears store.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > >
> > > I HEARTILY disagree. My 32" 4:3 Samsung (for around 900 now adays) is
> an
> > > awseome TV. Sure a 34" 16:9 would be better, but it costs more.
> > >
> > > Whats the point of even getting an HDTV at 26", its so small you cant
> > notice
> > > the increased detail!
> > >
> > > And HD Content looks WONDERFUL on my 32" 4:3... no complaints here...
I
> > have
> > > it zoomed so it cuts off the sides of the 16:9 content, but it fills
the
> > > entire screen, and I dont miss anything important. I have had it this
> way
> > > for a year and I am very veyr happy with it.
> > >
> > > But, it is possible for a bit over 1000 to get a 42" RPTV, though the
> > > picture wont be nearly as vivid as a CRT Direct View.
> > >
> > > COming from someone who has both 4:3 and 16:9... its not that big a
> deal.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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--
A widescreen edition of a movie presents the film frame as it was seen in
the movie theater. This is the version that best preserves the filmmaker's
original intent.

End of story!
"Jason" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:cb9dn5$10i$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu...
>
> "Jim Fraas" <jafraas@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ZqJBc.91296$Sw.66547@attbi_s51...
> > Don't even consider 4:3.
> > This looks good
> >
>
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/ [...] 668WHFXXAA
> > OK it's only 26",but Sears has it for around $600
> > You can order it online or pick it up at your nearest Sears store.
> >
> > --
>
> I HEARTILY disagree. My 32" 4:3 Samsung (for around 900 now adays) is an
> awseome TV. Sure a 34" 16:9 would be better, but it costs more.
>
and your 32" 4:3 costs MORE then MY 26" 16:9!

> Whats the point of even getting an HDTV at 26", its so small you cant
notice
> the increased detail!
>
Many folks may not have the room for larger moniters. Also as 2007
approaches,you will be seeing smaller (and probobly less expensive) 16:9 HD
sets.

> And HD Content looks WONDERFUL on my 32" 4:3... no complaints here... I
have
> it zoomed so it cuts off the sides of the 16:9 content, but it fills the
> entire screen, and I dont miss anything important. I have had it this way
> for a year and I am very veyr happy with it.
>
Filling the entire screen MORE important then seeing a program in its
original aspect ratio?

> But, it is possible for a bit over 1000 to get a 42" RPTV, though the
> picture wont be nearly as vivid as a CRT Direct View.
>
> COming from someone who has both 4:3 and 16:9... its not that big a deal.
>
It iS A BIG deal

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I believe DISH will sell you both the monitor HDTV and the Satellite
decoding box for $1000. Be sure to check it out.

I have the above setup but I paid $6600 for it three years ago. I have super
HDTV and hundreds of other channels too.

JB


"JYellott" <jehartge@excite.com> wrote in message
news:13b955c9.0406211142.47d7c7f7@posting.google.com...
> We've all finally agreed that it's time to move up to HDTV (from an
> old 19" set). I am seeking tips on what & where to buy.
>
> Here's what we're looking for:
> 16:9 direct view
> HD-Ready (will rent STB from Comcast)
> 30" to 32" (picture quality is much more impt than size)
>
> Here're my questions:
> Do you have a HDTV along these lines that you love or wish you'd
> bought?
> What stores or websites are best in terms of prices and
> trustworthiness?
>
> I'm in the Rockville, MD area. Thanks in advance for your opinions
> and advice.
>
> John