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Something I've always wondered about DLP. I understand the chip has little
mirrors that move. Wouldn't that make it more likely to break? I admit I'm
no electronic wiz, but one thing i do know is moveable parts isn't good as a
rule. Am I wrong about this? I wonder what exactly is the estimated life of
a DLP TV?

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"Albert Alverez" <noneofyourbusiness@noway.org> wrote in message
news:qNaDc.27645$Y3.27149@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Something I've always wondered about DLP. I understand the chip has little
> mirrors that move. Wouldn't that make it more likely to break? I admit I'm
> no electronic wiz, but one thing i do know is moveable parts isn't good as
a
> rule. Am I wrong about this? I wonder what exactly is the estimated life
of
> a DLP TV?

TI has info on this at
http://www.dlp.com/dlp_technology/ [...] _Myth.pdf.
http://www.dlp.com/dlp_technology/ [...] paper.pdf.

It is widely accepted that DLP's have the longest life of any display
technology

the parts don't move much and the strength and flexibility of silicon at the
tiny scales involved is incredibly high

as things get small, the effects we see at large scale change dramatically
and physical effects that have little play at
large sizes come to predominate.

it's the bulbs that die too young - but then they can be replaced

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Thanks for the info Randy.


"Randy Sweeney" <rsweeney1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Albert Alverez" <noneofyourbusiness@noway.org> wrote in message
> news:qNaDc.27645$Y3.27149@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > Something I've always wondered about DLP. I understand the chip has
little
> > mirrors that move. Wouldn't that make it more likely to break? I admit
I'm
> > no electronic wiz, but one thing i do know is moveable parts isn't good
as
> a
> > rule. Am I wrong about this? I wonder what exactly is the estimated life
> of
> > a DLP TV?
>
> TI has info on this at
>
http://www.dlp.com/dlp_technology/ [...] _Myth.pdf.
>
http://www.dlp.com/dlp_technology/ [...] Reliabilit
y_paper.pdf.
>
> It is widely accepted that DLP's have the longest life of any display
> technology
>
> the parts don't move much and the strength and flexibility of silicon at
the
> tiny scales involved is incredibly high
>
> as things get small, the effects we see at large scale change dramatically
> and physical effects that have little play at
> large sizes come to predominate.
>
> it's the bulbs that die too young - but then they can be replaced
>
>
>

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Albert Alverez wrote:

> Something I've always wondered about DLP. I understand the chip has little
> mirrors that move. Wouldn't that make it more likely to break? I admit I'm
> no electronic wiz, but one thing i do know is moveable parts isn't good as a
> rule. Am I wrong about this? I wonder what exactly is the estimated life of
> a DLP TV?

I don't think the concern with the lifespan of the DLP RPTVs is with
the DLP chip itself. I have not read any postings about issues in that
area. The lifespan issues are more for the cost of replacing the high
intensity light bulb, the color wheel and the lens set that project the
image. The color wheel, from what I have read, is easily swapped out by
a repair technician, but I don't know if it is a do it yourself job. The
lens won't wear out, butunless the complete optical train is sealed,
will get dirty over time and require cleaning. If they are sealed, then
you might to only worry about cleaning the outer lens which I would hope
is easy to get at. If not, then unless you have a maintenance contract,
may have to pay for a service call every X years.

I'm planning to get a HDTV sometime later this year but have not
decided on the technology (plasma, LCD, DLP RPTV, LCD RPTV, etc). There
are enough problems with the new Samsung HLP sets - smudgy screens -
along with the known drawbacks for the DLP TVs discussed on
www.avsforums.com that I have leaned away from the DLP sets. But the
smudges may be some simple teething issues for the new Samsung DLP sets
coming out that may be fixed soon.

Alan Figgatt

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I've never noticed "smudges" on my Samsung HLN507W.

"Alan Figgatt" <afiggatt@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Albert Alverez wrote:
>
> > Something I've always wondered about DLP. I understand the chip has little
> > mirrors that move. Wouldn't that make it more likely to break? I admit I'm
> > no electronic wiz, but one thing i do know is moveable parts isn't good as a
> > rule. Am I wrong about this? I wonder what exactly is the estimated life of
> > a DLP TV?
>
> I don't think the concern with the lifespan of the DLP RPTVs is with
> the DLP chip itself. I have not read any postings about issues in that
> area. The lifespan issues are more for the cost of replacing the high
> intensity light bulb, the color wheel and the lens set that project the
> image. The color wheel, from what I have read, is easily swapped out by
> a repair technician, but I don't know if it is a do it yourself job. The
> lens won't wear out, butunless the complete optical train is sealed,
> will get dirty over time and require cleaning. If they are sealed, then
> you might to only worry about cleaning the outer lens which I would hope
> is easy to get at. If not, then unless you have a maintenance contract,
> may have to pay for a service call every X years.
>
> I'm planning to get a HDTV sometime later this year but have not
> decided on the technology (plasma, LCD, DLP RPTV, LCD RPTV, etc). There
> are enough problems with the new Samsung HLP sets - smudgy screens -
> along with the known drawbacks for the DLP TVs discussed on
> www.avsforums.com that I have leaned away from the DLP sets. But the
> smudges may be some simple teething issues for the new Samsung DLP sets
> coming out that may be fixed soon.
>
> Alan Figgatt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Alan Figgatt wrote:

>
> I'm planning to get a HDTV sometime later this year but have not
> decided on the technology (plasma, LCD, DLP RPTV, LCD RPTV, etc).
> There are enough problems with the new Samsung HLP sets - smudgy
> screens - along with the known drawbacks for the DLP TVs discussed on
> www.avsforums.com that I have leaned away from the DLP sets. But the
> smudges may be some simple teething issues for the new Samsung DLP
> sets coming out that may be fixed soon.
>
> Alan Figgatt

I have had my HLN 5065W DLP set for about 1 year now and it still amazes the
heck out of me (and the rest of the neighborhood). I have never adjusted
anything as the picture quality was stunning right out of the box.
Baseball, football and hockey games in HD have to be seen to be believed.
My son and daughter have Sony LCD rear projection sets that cost much less
but have nowhere (and I emphasize nowhere) near the PQ, brightness and view
angle of the Samsung.

In general the DLP sets cost nearly twice the price of the ower quality rear
projection sets but still half the price of plasma. No regrets here!

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

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A concern.

I was planning on purchasing the new 61" HLP shortly but recently
someone told me that all Samsung DLP's show a maximum of 720p. That
would mean a satellite receiver that outputs 1080 would be useless.

Is this true? Isnt this a major drawback? I was told that the Sony
LCD's can display 1080.

Thanks for your advice.


--
zubinh

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zubinh wrote:
>
> A concern.
>
> I was planning on purchasing the new 61" HLP shortly but recently
> someone told me that all Samsung DLP's show a maximum of 720p. That
> would mean a satellite receiver that outputs 1080 would be useless.

I believe 1080 should read 1080i (interlaced)....

HDTVs and set top boxes do make the HD conversion from 1080i to
720p routinely.... Both HD formats contain nearly the same
amount of 'timed' pixel data....

1080i has more lines by is updated less frequently..
720p has less lines but is updated more frequently...


>
> Is this true? Isnt this a major drawback? I was told that the Sony
> LCD's can display 1080.

No, it is not a major drawback for certain flat screen
technologies.
720p may be the native 'fixed' format for DLPs....
>
> Thanks for your advice.
>
> --
> zubinh

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I have the RCA 61" DLP with 720p as its native format. It converts all
1080i signals to 720p before display. The local FOX channel comes in at
720p OTA, while NBC and CBS come in at 1020i and are converted. I myself
can't tell the difference between either of these feeds. I say don't sweat
it. The ideal HDTV would do 1020p, but AFAIK, such a beast is not
commercially available at this time.

"Dennis Mayer" <Polaris1@execpc.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> zubinh wrote:
> >
> > A concern.
> >
> > I was planning on purchasing the new 61" HLP shortly but recently
> > someone told me that all Samsung DLP's show a maximum of 720p. That
> > would mean a satellite receiver that outputs 1080 would be useless.
>
> I believe 1080 should read 1080i (interlaced)....
>
> HDTVs and set top boxes do make the HD conversion from 1080i to
> 720p routinely.... Both HD formats contain nearly the same
> amount of 'timed' pixel data....
>
> 1080i has more lines by is updated less frequently..
> 720p has less lines but is updated more frequently...
>
>
> >
> > Is this true? Isnt this a major drawback? I was told that the Sony
> > LCD's can display 1080.
>
> No, it is not a major drawback for certain flat screen
> technologies.
> 720p may be the native 'fixed' format for DLPs....
> >
> > Thanks for your advice.
> >
> > --
> > zubinh

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Nothing can display 1080i right now, at least nothing within most people's
budgets.

All fixed panel displays such as DLP or LCD are either 1280x720 or 1386 x
788

They will all scale the 1080i output of the box to their own native
resolution.

Doug


"zubinh" <zubinh.197nxm@nobody.satelliteguys.us> wrote in message
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>
> A concern.
>
> I was planning on purchasing the new 61" HLP shortly but recently
> someone told me that all Samsung DLP's show a maximum of 720p. That
> would mean a satellite receiver that outputs 1080 would be useless.
>
> Is this true? Isnt this a major drawback? I was told that the Sony
> LCD's can display 1080.
>
> Thanks for your advice.
>
>
> --
> zubinh

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zubinh <zubinh.197nxm@nobody.satelliteguys.us> wrote in
news:zubinh.197nxm@nobody.satelliteguys.us:

>
> A concern.
>
> I was planning on purchasing the new 61" HLP shortly but recently
> someone told me that all Samsung DLP's show a maximum of 720p. That
> would mean a satellite receiver that outputs 1080 would be useless.
>
> Is this true? Isnt this a major drawback? I was told that the Sony
> LCD's can display 1080.
>
> Thanks for your advice.
>
>

All LCD, DLP, Plasma have a native res. of 720p. Only the CRT rear
projection systems can display 1080i natively. All DirectV boxes I've
seen have a switch to output either 720p or 1080i. You set this switch to
your display's native res. Everything will be fine. Don't worry about
what the OTA stations send out, the box will convert it to the setting of
the boxes output res.

Don't worry, be happy. BTW, I'd love to have that DLP.

Dave

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