AMD or INTEL????

[kyuicious]

I think this would be a big question

"What is a better CPU for Gaming AMD or Intel?"

 

[ajfink]

I think this would be a big question

"What is a better CPU for Gaming AMD or Intel?"

Currently Intel, but only the Core 2 Duos.

 

[kyuicious]

i ask to meany ppl what's better
most of them say it's amd...
so what is so better about it then?
and what's the difference

 

[kyosuke]

i ask to meany ppl what's better
most of them say it's amd...
so what is so better about it then?
and what's the difference

I'm a huge AMD fan. Never have owned an Intel in my life. MOstly because as you say AMD has ALWAYS been bettter for gaming...

That has changed though. The Core 2 Duo is the premier processor for EVERYTHING at the moment. I'm sure AMD will counter back soon, but if you want a new system now, the Intel Core 2 Duo is the way to go...

I am still torn, because for my new system I am looking at both. My loyalty puts me @ AMD, but my gaming sense puts me at Intel, so it's tough.. I'll probably break my rule though and go Intel.. b/c performance wise the C2D can't be beat right now.

 

[kyuicious]

but now at this moment i'm trying to buy a new PC and i'm looking at the AMD athlon +4200 X2<< isn't this a good cpu?

 

[kyosuke]

but now at this moment i'm trying to buy a new PC and i'm looking at the AMD athlon +4200 X2<< isn't this a good cpu?

It's a good CPU. I have been looking at that and the 4600+ as well

BUT


the E6400 Core 2 Duo out peforms them both pretty much..

All numbers aren't huge, but still the Conroe is a better performer.

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

Its fine, but core 2 duo offers a much better performance for the price, not to mention is far more overclockable.... if you're building a new system right now then ignore amd.

 

[kyuicious]

Really?
so, no amd?
what's so bad about amd right now then?

 

[shinigamiX]

AMD's good. It's just that Intel is better right now.

 

[mad_murdock]

When I build I tend to build whoever is the hottest at the time. I own Intel, and I've own AMDs, my last buy was an AMD 4800+. I have the same approach to video cards, I own ATIs and I got nVidias, who ever is scoring highest at the time I buy, is who I go with.(got the 6800GT, then the X800, then the x1900XTX, currently I'm seriously eyeing the 8800GTX)

Right now, Intel is top dog and is equally priced to anything AMD has. In fact, I still can't believe AMD is trying to sell the FX60 at such a ridicolus price seeing how it's beaten by a chip half it's price. But those die hard AMD guys will buy whatever AMD sells themI guess.

My advice, is to try and avoid ever becoming overly partial to a particular product, whether it''s AMD or Intel or nVidia or ATI (Now AMD). Just look at the different benchmarks and performance numbers and buy the one that gives you what you want. If that's the fastest thing out, then go for that. If it's the best bang for the buck, then go for that.

Sometimes, the line between AMD and Intel is pretty thin and so it doesn't matter, right now, the line is crystal clear. Intel just performs best,At games, apps, you name it. In 6-9 months AMD, might be kicking Intel's ass. Which we should all be hoping that Amd's next offering blurs the line again, as we all need for Intel to have some strong competition.

 

[kyuicious]

OK,
can you give me a model that's like between 200-150 dollars,
so i can buy one

 

[kyosuke]

Did you read the 'gaming' part of the question?

The Core 2 Duo > any AMD processor out right now... plain and simple. Gaming, General Apps, etc..

Nothing is wrong with AMD, the C2D just performs better.

 

[crusher]

Intel FTW its cheaper and better. hey its INTEL!!!! btw i own an am2 x2 3800

 

[Slobogob]

I think this would be a big question

"What is a better CPU for Gaming AMD or Intel?"

If seen out of context then it is Intels new Core arch. If you take price into consideration amd is the company of choice.

 

[mad_murdock]

I think for that $$ range, you'll want the E6400. You know you do have the option to wait for the new AMDs to come out (not sure of the time frame), but they are claiming they will retake the lead.

Also note, on some benchmarks, the FX74 actually beats the Intel chips. But not in gaming. Plus the FX74 is listed at $550 and other than 3-4 areas, is beaten by the $315 E6600.

For around $200, you're looking at a AMD 4600+, which still gets beat by the E6400, but the gap is small enough for you to consider sticking with AMD, if you really must do so. Some AMD fans, might tell you to look at the Opteron chip, which has good overlocking value to it.

Though I think the Intel chip, is just the bext way to go today or wait until AMD releases their new chip to see how it stacks up.

If seen out of context then it is Intels new Core arch. If you take price into consideration amd is the company of choice.

Can you show me some numbers to support that ? I don't see how you can say a $315 E6600 which normally beats a $550 FX74 is not the better chip, when taking price into consideration. I was luckly enough to get the 4800+ OEM for $250 and it doesn't beat anything intel as to offer, and I'd be glad to play $60 more for the extra performance the E6600 gives

 

[kyuicious]

this is my PC which i'm deciding to buy:

AMD athlon 64 X2 4600+
ASUS M2N-SLI DELUXE, AM2,NF570SLI,DDR2,2xPCIe16
Corsair 1024MB, DDR2, 128MX64, XMS2-5400, C4 DDR2, HeatSpread
ASUS EN7600GS,256MB TVout,DVI-I,PCIe,Retail,HDTV
ASUS DVD 16x48 IDE Retail E616A3 Dual Panel Black/Zilver
and Vista home i allready have

 

[Slobogob]

If seen out of context then it is Intels new Core arch. If you take price into consideration amd is the company of choice.

Can you show me some numbers to support that ? I don't see how you can say a $315 E6600 which normally beats a $550 FX74 is not the better chip, when taking price into consideration. I was luckly enough to get the 4800+ OEM for $250 and it doesn't beat anything intel as to offer, and I'd be glad to play $60 more for the extra performance the E6600 gives

Right now i can get a 3800 for less than 80€. A e4300 costs me almost exactly 150€. While the e4300 is faster, its costs twice as much yet it doesn´t have twice the performance. The 3800 is enough for most tasks and, for a gamer, the money saved is better spend on a GPU.
For the price of a e4300 i can get a 4600x2 which is at least on par with the intel processor.

 

[darious00777]

For the price of a e4300 i can get a 4600x2 which is at least on par with the intel processor.

Until you bring overclocking into consideration. I would love to bring my chip up to 2.5-2.98 mhz range, but this motherboard is locked. Least I can get a little bit more out of my RAM for free.

 

[Slobogob]

For the price of a e4300 i can get a 4600x2 which is at least on par with the intel processor.

Until you bring overclocking into consideration.

Of course! The intel chips overclock way better. How many people do overclock though? Apart from us enthusiasts? :?:

 

[mad_murdock]

Right now i can get a 3800 for less than 80€. A e4300 costs me almost exactly 150€. While the e4300 is faster, its costs twice as much yet it doesn´t have twice the performance. The 3800 is enough for most tasks and, for a gamer, the money saved is better spend on a GPU.
For the price of a e4300 i can get a 4600x2 which is at least on par with the intel processor.

Well, that's a fair enough argument, but then that means the other AMD processors are also inferior chips. As the AMD 4600+ is twice the price and doesn't offer twice the performance to the 3800+. So do we say that any chip over $100 is a waste of money ? Since it won't deliever twice the performance and that after x amount, that's all the performance we really need to worry about ?

But what happens when games get harder and demands more ? Spend another $80 to get to where you could have been a year early ? But if the question is, what's the best chip for under $100 ? Then I would totally agree, AMD owns that market, just like Intel owns the $300+ market

 

[CaptRobertApril]

Is there an echo in here, or do I see this same thread every single freakin' day? :?

 

[m25]

budget please...

 

[shinigamiX]

this is my PC which i'm deciding to buy:

AMD athlon 64 X2 4600+
ASUS M2N-SLI DELUXE, AM2,NF570SLI,DDR2,2xPCIe16
Corsair 1024MB, DDR2, 128MX64, XMS2-5400, C4 DDR2, HeatSpread
ASUS EN7600GS,256MB TVout,DVI-I,PCIe,Retail,HDTV
ASUS DVD 16x48 IDE Retail E616A3 Dual Panel Black/Zilver
and Vista home i allready have

Uhhh, you asked us which CPU to buy and just about everyone answered "Core 2 Duo" Now you tell us you've decided to buy a 4600+. It's a great CPU, but care to tell us why you asked us a question only to completely disregard our answer?

 

[dasickninja]

Nope. Theres an echo. And its killing me too.

 

[darious00777]

Oh yeah, forgot about that.