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E6300 / E6400 and E4300 - How far w/ stock cooling? Help!

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February 6, 2007 5:44:09 PM

OK, so here's the deal. Everyoen is telling me I should go with a Core 2 Duo. Well, that's fine, BUT

I want my processor @ 2.4ghz.. and I want to be able to do it with Stock cooling. - Where I am pretty sure I could do that with the E6400 as it's not much of an increase, would it besafe and possibel with the E6300 or the E4300 for that matter?

Also, Allendale vs. low end Conroe? Is there much of a difference?

Thanks!!

Btw - I have NEVER OC'd anythign before.. so it's why I only want minimal and don't want to try and mess with cooling/grease/huge coolers... b/c I have no idea on that.... :/ 
February 6, 2007 9:05:44 PM

anyone got anything?
February 7, 2007 12:55:47 AM

I'm OCing an E6300 @ 2.6 so 2.4 should be easy. My personal opinion would be to skip the 6400 and go to the 6600 (might as well spend a bit more and enjoy the extra 2 megs).

I have no experiance with the 4300.

I'm using an Asus P5W-DH with the 1707 BIOS.
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February 7, 2007 12:59:24 AM

e4300 @ 3.0ghz with stock cooling is just BARELY adequate with good case circulation. But it will do it and unless it is under severe load it will be just fine.

e4300 @ 2.4ghz with stock cooling....no sweat, it'll do it no problem with cood case circulation. As long as you have that stock heatsing seated perfectly. Almost every single thread I have read about temps turned out to be improper seating.

** these are at stock voltages **

Monk

Edited to include: Ps. I LOVE my e4300. Best $170 I have spent in a long while. Running at 3.0ghz stock volts no problem. I did switch to the bigger cooler though. (the big typhoon)
February 7, 2007 1:50:29 AM

You will have no problem reaching 2.4Ghz on the e6300. I'm at 2.3Ghz with 667Mhz RAM and 1:1 divider. I'm at stock voltages. I'm using an XP-90 for cooling, but the stock cooler would be fine since you probably won't have to increase voltage.

However, if I were buying a new CPU I would get the e4300. Great price and excellent OC potential.
February 7, 2007 2:05:34 AM

I got my E4300 running @ 2.4 GHz now. Temperatures are fine on stock cooling. I tried 3.0 GHz and found it was running a little hot.


Here are my CoreTemp.exe results of running 100% load for 10 minutes:
[code:1:16fe9e14c7]
STOCK Temp (°C)
1.8 GHz Core0 Core 1
Min (idle) 21 19
Max (100% load) 40 37

OVERCLOCKED 1 Temp (°C)
2.39 GHz Core0 Core 1
Min (idle) 24 23
Max (100% load) 54 53

OVERCLOCKED 2 Temp (°C)
2.99 GHz Core0 Core 1
Min (idle) 24 23
Max (100% load) 58 57

[/code:1:16fe9e14c7]
February 7, 2007 2:37:09 AM

I suppose my next question would be,

Will PC6400 (DD2 800) work fine with the E4300?

I see alot of people using memory DDR2 667 or less even when building with the E4300. Does it have to be this way? or will 800 work just fine too?
February 7, 2007 2:50:55 AM

ddr2 800 will work fine with the e4300. actually one of the most appealing things about the e4300 is that becuz of the high multiplier, you can use lower fsb and therefore can use cheaper ram.
February 7, 2007 2:54:01 AM

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I suppose my next question would be,

Will PC6400 (DD2 800) work fine with the E4300?

I see alot of people using memory DDR2 667 or less even when building with the E4300. Does it have to be this way? or will 800 work just fine too?


DDR2 800 is fine.

Most would choose DDR2 667 so that they can clock the E4300 up to 2.997GHz without overclocking the RAM. ie a 1:1 ratio FSB to RAM. (667 is also cheaper).

The ratio doesn't have to be 1:1 though. As long as the FSB isn't faster than the RAM, performance won't suffer.
February 7, 2007 8:47:41 AM

:D  Hey Tony, those 3ghz OC temps aren't bad at all especially with stock cooling. Did you undervolt and did you use the thermal paste that came preapplied to the stock cooling?
February 7, 2007 10:56:17 PM

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:D  Hey Tony, those 3ghz OC temps aren't bad at all especially with stock cooling. Did you undervolt and did you use the thermal paste that came preapplied to the stock cooling?


No undervolt. I let the mobo decide (Auto).
I used the stock thermal paste that was already on the heatsink.


Actually, what made me nervous are the temperature readings in TAT (thermal analysis tool). They reached as high as 70°C @ 2.99GHz, and as high as 66°C @ 2.4 GHz.

I'm not sure which program has the most accurate readings (TAT or CoreTemp), so I backed off on the overclock - until I get a better cooler.
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February 8, 2007 6:07:49 AM

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Actually, what made me nervous are the temperature readings in TAT (thermal analysis tool). They reached as high as 70°C @ 2.99GHz, and as high as 66°C @ 2.4 GHz.

I'm not sure which program has the most accurate readings (TAT or CoreTemp), so I backed off on the overclock - until I get a better cooler.


Core Temp typically reads ~ 2c higher than TAT:

Core 2 Duo Temperature Guide 8)

What were your readings?
February 9, 2007 11:54:51 AM

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Core Temp typically reads ~ 2c higher than TAT:


Not for me it doesn't :?


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Core 2 Duo Temperature Guide 8)

What were your readings?


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February 9, 2007 4:20:49 PM

Since we've recently begun to see topics regarding the E4300, I've contacted Core Temp and Intel concerning this issue.

E4300 only; temperatures reported by TAT are offset by +15c, and should be diregarded. Continue to use TAT for load testing. Temperatures reported by Core Temp are correct.

I've updated the Core 2 Duo Temperature Guide to include this information.

Thank you for your post.

CompuTronix 8)
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