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New Game Build: Already Have FX 74's - $1500, I can spend

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February 8, 2007 11:26:14 AM

Greetings

I just recently acquired the Asus L1N64-SLI Motherboard and two FX-74's, but no extras other that the main parts. This of course makes 90% of my current system obsolete. So I am hoping for a huge upgrade.

I have the items in bold:

CPU - I have two FX-74

Fans / HeatSinks - Since these were OEM, I don't have fans or heatsinks

Motherboard - I have the Asus L1N64-SLI


RAM - Need

Video Card - I need (at least 8800, might wait to at least the specs of the R600)

Hard Drive - I need - Thinking about the WD Raptor 150GB Drive

Power Supply - Need something big

Case - something sporty and roomy, but not outrageous

DVD Burner - Looking for LiteScribe and Dual Layer

I have $1500 to spend beyond having already the high end parts and I might push that a tad if what I am getting can really improve it.

Thank you

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February 8, 2007 12:37:25 PM

At the moment I don't have any answers for you, I'm not as opn top of prices as I used to be. However you do need a bump.
February 8, 2007 2:39:01 PM

You bought two FX-74s ??!! 8O

How much did that set you back ?
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February 8, 2007 2:59:17 PM

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You bought two FX-74s ??!! 8O

How much did that set you back ?


It was trade for some work, I did for someone.


PS. During Lunch, I will post some things I have been looking at to see if I am HOT/Cold with the my future purchase.
February 8, 2007 3:18:41 PM

Hmm... look for at least a 850 WATT in case you want to do SLI 8800GTX. Also, look for quad pci express plugs :wink:

RAM, any DDR2 800 perhaps?

Hard drives, sure, go for the Raptors.

Case, um... CoolerMaster 830 Stacker?

DVD Burner - check newegg... you can get either one of them for an average of $40

Should be in your range.
February 8, 2007 3:53:10 PM

You will probably want 4GB of good DDR2-800. 2GB, at least. I say four, that way each processor can have access to 2GB of dual-channel. Also, a 64-bit OS is a must with these (XP64 or Vista 64-bit) to get good NUMA support, which can make a noticeable difference in performance.

Like someone said, at least an 850w PSU. You'll want a very spacious case, as well. I think I already suggest to you ways to get ahold of two 1207 FX coolers in the other thread you posted.
February 8, 2007 4:49:23 PM

This is what I have put together on New Egg so far, can I please have your opinion:

I have the items in bold:

CPU - I have two FX-74

Fans / HeatSinks - still looking

Motherboard - I have the Asus L1N64-SLI

RAM - CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

Video Card - XFX PVT80FSHF9 GeForce 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card

Hard Drive - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive

Power Supply - BFG Tech BFGR1000WPSU ATX 12V 2.2/EPS 12V 2.91 1000W Power Supply

Case - COOLER MASTER Praetorian 730 RC-730-SSN1 Silver Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

DVD Burner - SAMSUNG 18X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write, LightScribe Technology Black SATA Model

It comes out to $1496.45 minus S&H and still needing Artic Silver, some cables and of course the two fans/heatsinks
February 8, 2007 5:59:56 PM

As for coolers, I don't know if the Zalman 9500 or 9700 will work with the FX sockets but I have the 9500 and love it. Some people claim the Scyth Ninja is better but I don't much like the look or the fact that it doesn't do quite as well under load (on the last review I saw).

I would jump to 4 GB of DDR if I were spending that kind of money (since the FX74 has approximately 0 room for OC you don't need to worry about OCing RAM you can just get some quality ram with low timings).

I would also get one large (can be slow) drive for data. In my own box I have 2 in a raif config.

Again I don't know anything about pricing right now so I can't talk about numbers.
February 8, 2007 6:20:19 PM

Er, for your case, you might want to try this instead, seeing as it's certified for QuadFX

Thermaltake Armor Extreme Edition VA8004BWS - Retail

What are you going to use this computer for?

Also, you forgot to add an operating system, unless you're going Linux or already have one.

RAM, 2 gigs is sufficient enough. Get 2 more gigs when you really need it. If you're not gaming, go for the 8800GTS.
February 8, 2007 6:47:33 PM

I would get another hard drive for mass storage (unless you can use your old one)

I really like the lian li cases very good cases (little plain looking though). Also the 8800GTS can be over clocked pretty well, if your into that sort of thing. Could save you some money.

Already have a monitor?
February 8, 2007 6:53:03 PM

Aragorn, I already have a 300 GB storage drive, plus I am turning my current PC into a file server, so larger storage isn't my concern.

I really do want to get 4 GB, and I really really want to get 4 GB of well timed RAM, but though this computer will equal out to about $2800 just in the case (including mobo and processor) once everything is together, that's about all I can afford right now.

I do have an OS or I can acquire one through school for a discounted price, so that I will get seperatley.

Eurasianman, I might go for that case, I might go with the silver version, so it will look nice beside my file PC. Even Gamers have to be color cautious.

What will I be using this PC for? High Textured gaming (mostly over modded Oblivion that even pushes the 8800 GTX down to 20 FPS,) Audio Engineering and recording, Graphic design and some video editing.
February 8, 2007 7:06:01 PM

Good to hear that you are already set up for storage.

As for memory, I know you are tight on the budget. Doesn't the Board you have include 8 Memory Slots? You don't have to go up to 2 GB Sticks you can get 4 1GB sticks.

The G.Skil Sticks (rated very well by THG) save you almost $40 per pair at newegg 2x1GB. You can get 4 GB for the price of 3 GB in what you are looking at. Same timings too.
February 8, 2007 7:18:07 PM

I guess since I started using Corsair, I always had good luck...... maybe I need to look outside the box, just hard leaving ole' trusty.
February 8, 2007 7:18:20 PM

Seeing that you do a lot, you might have to buy things in increments. For now, stick with 2 gig of RAM and go for a 8800 GTX since you'll be doing a lot of graphical stressing (if that's the proper term). For the case, I only chose the black one because it was in closer range of the one that you had picked out previously.

Good luck with your build.
February 8, 2007 7:49:45 PM

Thanx Eurasianman, my main objective is to move up to 4GB RAM, but as you said in pieces.
February 8, 2007 8:25:58 PM

I feel ya though. Eventually, I'll get 2 more gigs of RAM, and then hopefully a R600 graphics card before upgrading to Vista. Of course, all in time :tongue:

Patience is like papercuts between the fingers and toes...PAINFUL!!!

Er... or is that only me? :?
February 8, 2007 10:27:53 PM

That's all of us man. Unfortuantely my pockets aint that deep so I still only have 2 GB with my Opteron 165. I have an x600 Video card too (can't wait to upgrade that dinosaur).
February 9, 2007 12:00:15 PM

This is what I am about to order, just wanted a last triple check with everyone for opinions:

SATA Cables
OKGEAR 18" SATA Cable Model GC18AKM12 - Retail
Item #: N82E16812123158
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$6.98
($3.49 each)

DVD Drive
SAMSUNG 18X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write, LightScribe Technology Black SATA Model SH-S183L - OEM
Item #: N82E16827151141
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$46.99

Case
Thermaltake Armor Extreme Edition VA8004BNS Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811133032
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$159.99

Hard Drive
Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136012
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$30.00 Mail-in Rebate
$219.99

Graphics Card
XFX PVT80FSHF9 GeForce 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814150205
Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

$50.00 Mail-in Rebate
$589.99

Power Supply
BFG Tech BFGR1000WPSU ATX 12V 2.2/EPS 12V 2.91 1000W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817702005
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$286.99

Thermal Compound
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Item #: N82E16835100007
Return Policy: Consumable Items Return Policy
$5.99

RAM
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231087
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$30.00 Instant
$229.99
$199.99

Subtotal: $1,516.91

It should be one hell of a machine..... I can't wait.
February 9, 2007 12:12:23 PM

I wish I could afford components half that good.
February 9, 2007 12:53:01 PM

I have done some minor upgrades in the past 4 years, but nothing major so for me.... I feel it is time.
February 9, 2007 1:07:03 PM

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I wish I could afford components half that good.


Don't we all!
February 9, 2007 1:37:16 PM

So, I guess my selections are okay and I can proceed and order?
February 9, 2007 1:39:00 PM

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So, I guess my selections are okay and I can proceed and order?


Aye, it's a very nice looking system you'll have. Come back and tell us what you think of it when it's all done. You could even post some benchmarks!
February 9, 2007 2:23:34 PM

Well, I just had a friend offer to loan me a 7800 which I might take until the R600 comes out. I at least want to see it's benchmark vs the 8800.
February 10, 2007 4:07:28 AM

That would probably be a wise idea.

Btw, for PSU, check out PC Power and Cooling 750WATT Quad. I've heard great things about it. Such as it can run 8800GTXs in SLI. However, since you're running Quad FX, you probably made the right choice in the BFG.

Like a previous poster said... let us know how everything works out for ya =)
February 10, 2007 9:22:49 AM

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Well, I just had a friend offer to loan me a 7800 which I might take until the R600 comes out. I at least want to see it's benchmark vs the 8800.


Hmm, that should be alright. However, if i were you i'd just go for an EVGA 8800 and if something better has appeared within 90 days use their quite frankly brilliant stepup program.
February 10, 2007 9:54:28 AM

I don't think you listed a cpu heatsink. You should really look into the ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro. Based on the reviews I've read they are really good and they come with MX-1 paste applied (also good stuff). You wouldn't need arctic silver and when ordering 2 on newegg the price can't be beat. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...
February 10, 2007 10:16:44 AM

I agree with Eurasianman, I have the PC Power and Cooling 750watt power supply. It's 8800 GTX SLI certified. PC Power and Cooling makes the best power supplies on the market. If you're going to spend $200 plus on a power supply, why not go with the best? And as for a case, why not look at the Silverstone TJ09? It's a full tower case, and one of the best built cases out there. The TJ09 is built with graphics cooling in mind. It's a little pricey, but, if you go with the PSU I recommended, you can use the money you save there to get the Silverstone case. Check out www.silverstonetek.com to see some reveiws. Good luck with your build!
February 10, 2007 10:31:16 AM

You better strictly follow AMDs recommended configuration.

And some earcuffs wont do bad (just an idea).
February 11, 2007 11:29:24 AM

quantumsheep, what is this upgrade system you are speaking of? I trufthfully just want the R600, always been a big AMD/ATI fan and don't want to help the enemy. (i just did soem research, the g80 is not in teh step up program)

jerrardo, sorry but that heatsink does not fit the Socket F 1207 Fx. That's the problem, NO ONE Carries jheat sinks that fit these processors and AMD told me to go away b/c it's OEM. So, I don't know what I am going to do.

korbin44, Eurasianman was also right taht the choice I made was ideal for what I am getting. A 750 Watt power supply would barely hold my Mother board and processor, these guys are power hogs, to run a good video card, I HAVE to get at least 1000w. I went with teh Thermaltake armor specifically b/c it is made to have room for the two processor and the fans that sit on top of it. The mounting is also a bit different for the motherboard, which teh Thermaltake accepts.

YCon, what are earcuffs?
February 11, 2007 8:54:03 PM

rever911, it all depends on how many and what kind of video cards you are going to run. A maxed out qfx 74 system will typically pull 550 watts + or - 30 watts. Thats with one x1900xtx, not maxed out. You're given at least 200 watts of headroom if you plan on running under full load all the time. With typical computer use, you will most likely not be multitasking enough to max out at 600 watts. If you add a second card, especially a second 8800gtx, you'll be close, but still, a 750 watt power supply will do. Unless you plan on running a multidisk raid setup, 2x 8800gtx's, custom water cooling, multi optical drives, a dozen fans, and amything else, you would most likely tax the system. You must also consider that the peak watts is 825 with the pc power and cooling silencer 750. If you still feel that it's not enough power, go with the pc power and cooling turbo cool 1kw. It's $500, but the best power supply out there when talking about 1kw power supplies. Whatever you decide, just don't get a modular power supply. You get leakage where the cables connect and end up loosing power. Check out pc power and coolings myths section: http://www.pcpower.com/technology/myths/
Great info on myths and truths about power supplies.
February 12, 2007 1:42:06 AM

None the less, I ordered the parts Friday after waiting for people's answers. Thank you everyone who helped out. I will post some thoughts once I get everything together.
February 12, 2007 6:48:40 AM

Let's us know how things turn out.
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