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April 24, 2005 1:15:24 AM

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Hey there

I just finished HOTU, or more precisely, aribeth fininished HOTU for me. The
heavily damage reducted Mephistoles wasn't very impressed by the hits of my
level 25 monk (2 or 3 damage per hit on average), but aribeth on the other
hand kicked his ass by taking swings of 8 or 9 damage at him, not missing
much of her attacks.

The moment I took aritbeth as my henchmen, I felt more like I was HER
henchmen, since she finished off her opponents at the same speed as I did,
sometimes even faster. (it was not like I couldn't handle them, she just did
it better ;-p) Did any of you had this experience? Is Aribeth overpowered as
a henchmen, or just powerful?

Just felt like asking some opinions ;-p
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April 24, 2005 1:15:25 AM

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ikke wrote:
> Did any of you had this experience? Is Aribeth overpowered as
> a henchmen, or just powerful?


Depends on your class, I guess. I played through once with an
almost-pure paladin (had 2 levels of fighter) and a fighter/weapon
master. I was mowing down enemies so quick (especially with the F/WM)
that I didn't notice Aribeth being particularly efficacious. I mainly
drug her along for the little mênage à trois with her an Nat. ;-)
--
Barry Scott Will
Pyric RPG Publications
http://www.pyric.com/
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April 24, 2005 1:15:25 AM

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ikke wrote:
> Hey there
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> I just finished HOTU, or more precisely, aribeth fininished HOTU for me. The
> heavily damage reducted Mephistoles wasn't very impressed by the hits of my
> level 25 monk (2 or 3 damage per hit on average), but aribeth on the other
> hand kicked his ass by taking swings of 8 or 9 damage at him, not missing
> much of her attacks.
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> The moment I took aritbeth as my henchmen, I felt more like I was HER
> henchmen, since she finished off her opponents at the same speed as I did,
> sometimes even faster. (it was not like I couldn't handle them, she just did
> it better ;-p) Did any of you had this experience? Is Aribeth overpowered as
> a henchmen, or just powerful?
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> Just felt like asking some opinions ;-p
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I never got to find out, because Meph always persuaded her to his side! :( 
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April 24, 2005 1:15:26 AM

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> paladin (had 2 levels of fighter) and a fighter/weapon master. I was mowing
> down enemies so quick (especially with the F/WM) that I didn't notice Aribeth
> being particularly efficacious. I mainly drug her along for the little mênage
> à trois with her an Nat. ;-)


I agree... I had little trouble with either my cleric or my paladin in
the last batle in HotU and I'm doing monk in the OC now, so it'll be a
while before I get to HotU with him. I used both Ari and Nat also in
both cases and thought they were luggage. Was there a big difference in
your/her equipment or STR?

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As we passed on
It seemed as if those scenes
Of visionary enchantment
Would never have an end.

--- Meriwether Lewis.
April 24, 2005 3:21:42 AM

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"Dawnseeker" <nospam_dawnseeker3@excite.com> schreef in bericht
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>>> Did any of you had this experience? Is Aribeth overpowered as a
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>> Depends on your class, I guess. I played through once with an almost-pure
>> paladin (had 2 levels of fighter) and a fighter/weapon master. I was
>> mowing down enemies so quick (especially with the F/WM) that I didn't
>> notice Aribeth being particularly efficacious. I mainly drug her along
>> for the little mênage à trois with her an Nat. ;-)
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> last batle in HotU and I'm doing monk in the OC now, so it'll be a while
> before I get to HotU with him. I used both Ari and Nat also in both cases
> and thought they were luggage. Was there a big difference in your/her
> equipment or STR?

Well, since I used unarmed strike (I WAS a monk afterall) there was little
to compare. I did give aribeth some kickass sword/shield though ;-p her
strength was somewhat higher also I think, but not very much. Maybe this
difference became somewhat bigger because of her divine might abilities,
which upgraded her weapons even further ;-p (+4 enhancement + 7enhancement
is, like, + 11 enhancement.... and keen... and some extra damage (2d sonic
or so I believe, don't know it by heart ;-p) that makes her weapon very
useful....)




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April 24, 2005 6:22:34 AM

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> master. I was mowing down enemies so quick (especially with the F/WM)
> that I didn't notice Aribeth being particularly efficacious. I mainly
> drug her along for the little mênage à trois with her an Nat. ;-)

Man, I gotta learn to start talking to my henchwomen. The only action my
ranger got was with a really short hooker, and all she did was talk a lot
and then pass out.
-bc


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April 24, 2005 12:21:53 PM

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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 02:22:34 -0500, "bc" <nomail@please.com> wrote:

>Man, I gotta learn to start talking to my henchwomen. The only action my
>ranger got was with a really short hooker, and all she did was talk a lot
>and then pass out.

You don't actually get them as blatantly as you do the hookers from
chapter 1, but romantic relationships with several characters are
possible.

From examining the files it looks like there's also a possible
relationship with the spymaster in chapter 2 and beyond. There's
Aribeth in both chapter 2 and HOTU. There's Valen. Numerous reports
have told me that Nat is also available but I haven't tried it yet.
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 12:21:54 PM

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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:01:35 -0400, John Salerno
<johnjsal@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>I never got to find out, because Meph always persuaded her to his side! :( 

That's why you need true names, although I suspect that if you have
her in love with you that she won't stray.
April 24, 2005 3:53:31 PM

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>> I just finished HOTU, or more precisely, aribeth fininished HOTU for me.
>> The heavily damage reducted Mephistoles wasn't very impressed by the hits
>> of my level 25 monk (2 or 3 damage per hit on average), but aribeth on
>> the other hand kicked his ass by taking swings of 8 or 9 damage at him,
>> not missing much of her attacks.
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>> The moment I took aritbeth as my henchmen, I felt more like I was HER
>> henchmen, since she finished off her opponents at the same speed as I
>> did, sometimes even faster. (it was not like I couldn't handle them, she
>> just did it better ;-p) Did any of you had this experience? Is Aribeth
>> overpowered as a henchmen, or just powerful?
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>> Just felt like asking some opinions ;-p
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> I never got to find out, because Meph always persuaded her to his side!
> :( 

You can easily avoid this by learning her True Name, or having a high
persuade might work too I think. She really comes in handy ;-p
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April 24, 2005 6:27:22 PM

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> ranger got was with a really short hooker, and all she did was talk a lot
> and then pass out.


Well, you don't actually get any "action", but you can get the following
dialogue if you play your cards right:

EVIL ARIBETH:
Ari: "You can't compete with me, Nathyrra, so you might as well join me.
I don't bite. It's really more of a nibble, isn't it, <FirstName>..."

Nat: "If you're looking to shock me, Aribeth, try again. In case you've
been too busy to notice, I am a drow, after all... Let us share this
male, then, and fight about him later."


GOOD ARIBETH:
Nat: "See, Aribeth? He has room for both of us in his bed! What is it
that you so afraid of?"

Ari: "It seems wrong somehow but I love you, <FirstName>. 'Tis better to
have half your heart than none at all."

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Barry Scott Will
Pyric RPG Publications
http://www.pyric.com/
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April 24, 2005 6:39:09 PM

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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:15:24 +0200, "ikke" <iemand@ergens.nl> wrote:

>Hey there
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>I just finished HOTU, or more precisely, aribeth fininished HOTU for me. The
>heavily damage reducted Mephistoles wasn't very impressed by the hits of my
>level 25 monk (2 or 3 damage per hit on average), but aribeth on the other
>hand kicked his ass by taking swings of 8 or 9 damage at him, not missing
>much of her attacks.
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>The moment I took aritbeth as my henchmen, I felt more like I was HER
>henchmen, since she finished off her opponents at the same speed as I did,
>sometimes even faster. (it was not like I couldn't handle them, she just did
>it better ;-p) Did any of you had this experience? Is Aribeth overpowered as
>a henchmen, or just powerful?
>
>Just felt like asking some opinions ;-p

I think I finished with a low 30's Wizard. I had that speaking weapon in a
Greatsword guise with a whole host of upgrades like +10, Haste and Lightning
damage so she was more like my henchman but with Meph. I had to resort to the
Black Blade of disaster and Acid Fog which finished him off pretty quickly. So
I found she was competant but no more than that really.
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April 24, 2005 6:39:10 PM

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Memnoch wrote:

> I think I finished with a low 30's Wizard. I had that speaking weapon in a
> Greatsword guise with a whole host of upgrades like +10, Haste and Lightning
> damage so she was more like my henchman but with Meph. I had to resort to the
> Black Blade of disaster and Acid Fog which finished him off pretty quickly. So
> I found she was competant but no more than that really.

Luckily I had an arcane archer, otherwise I don't know how I would have
beat him by myself! I tried a few acid things too, but they didn't seem
to do much.
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April 24, 2005 6:39:11 PM

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Interesting. Acid is the one thing against which Meph isn't resistant.
My first time through I had added acid damage to my Enserric Greatsword
(by accident, I like the green, dripping goo on the blade). Meph was
difficult, but, since I had Persuaded both Ari and Nat to stick with me,
Meph was annoying, but not deadly.
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Pyric RPG Publications
http://www.pyric.com/
April 24, 2005 6:39:48 PM

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> On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 02:22:34 -0500, "bc" <nomail@please.com> wrote:
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> >Man, I gotta learn to start talking to my henchwomen. The only action my
> >ranger got was with a really short hooker, and all she did was talk a lot
> >and then pass out.
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> You don't actually get them as blatantly as you do the hookers from
> chapter 1, but romantic relationships with several characters are
> possible.
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> From examining the files it looks like there's also a possible
> relationship with the spymaster in chapter 2 and beyond. There's
> Aribeth in both chapter 2 and HOTU. There's Valen. Numerous reports
> have told me that Nat is also available but I haven't tried it yet.

Typical low-charisma ranger type. You pretty much gotta hit me over the
head with it. I went thru the original game three times before I realized
the henches would give you stuff if you talked to them long enough.
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April 24, 2005 7:08:15 PM

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> My first time through I had added acid damage to my Enserric Greatsword
> (by accident, I like the green, dripping goo on the blade). Meph was
> difficult, but, since I had Persuaded both Ari and Nat to stick with me,
> Meph was annoying, but not deadly.

I used a few scrolls that I had, but probably since I was only a level 1
wizard, they weren't so powerful. I'm not sure which spells they were,
but I'm guessing that's the reason, although I still did notice that
they were more effective than other spells.
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April 24, 2005 8:53:24 PM

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Loren Pechtel wrote:
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Having a high Persuade will also work, for all the potential companions.
(Though Intimidate is more effective for Aribeth the Blackguard.)
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 10:06:35 PM

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Loren Pechtel pretended :
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 02:22:34 -0500, "bc" <nomail@please.com> wrote:
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>> Man, I gotta learn to start talking to my henchwomen. The only action my
>> ranger got was with a really short hooker, and all she did was talk a lot
>> and then pass out.
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> You don't actually get them as blatantly as you do the hookers from
> chapter 1, but romantic relationships with several characters are
> possible.
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> From examining the files it looks like there's also a possible
> relationship with the spymaster in chapter 2 and beyond. There's
> Aribeth in both chapter 2 and HOTU. There's Valen. Numerous reports
> have told me that Nat is also available but I haven't tried it yet.

Consider a romantic relationship with Nat confirmed. She actually comes
across a bit coquettish and shy. I have to say, for an evil assassain,
she's kind of sweet. ;-)

--
As we passed on
It seemed as if those scenes
Of visionary enchantment
Would never have an end.

--- Meriwether Lewis.
Anonymous
April 24, 2005 10:07:58 PM

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Dawnseeker wrote:

> Consider a romantic relationship with Nat confirmed. She actually comes
> across a bit coquettish and shy. I have to say, for an evil assassain,
> she's kind of sweet. ;-)
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She certainly is. Evil, my ass.
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April 24, 2005 10:11:02 PM

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Loren Pechtel expressed precisely :
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 02:22:34 -0500, "bc" <nomail@please.com> wrote:
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>> Man, I gotta learn to start talking to my henchwomen. The only action my
>> ranger got was with a really short hooker, and all she did was talk a lot
>> and then pass out.
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> You don't actually get them as blatantly as you do the hookers from
> chapter 1, but romantic relationships with several characters are
> possible.
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> From examining the files it looks like there's also a possible
> relationship with the spymaster in chapter 2 and beyond. There's
> Aribeth in both chapter 2 and HOTU. There's Valen. Numerous reports
> have told me that Nat is also available but I haven't tried it yet.

Consider a romantic relationship with Nat confirmed. She actually comes
across a bit coquettish and shy. I have to say, for an evil assassain,
she's kind of sweet. ;-)

--
As we passed on
It seemed as if those scenes
Of visionary enchantment
Would never have an end.

--- Meriwether Lewis.
Anonymous
April 25, 2005 2:34:44 AM

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> Well, you don't actually get any "action", but you can get the following
> dialogue if you play your cards right:
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> EVIL ARIBETH:
> Ari: "You can't compete with me, Nathyrra, so you might as well join me.
> I don't bite. It's really more of a nibble, isn't it, <FirstName>..."
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> Nat: "If you're looking to shock me, Aribeth, try again. In case you've
> been too busy to notice, I am a drow, after all... Let us share this
> male, then, and fight about him later."
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> GOOD ARIBETH:
> Nat: "See, Aribeth? He has room for both of us in his bed! What is it
> that you so afraid of?"
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> Ari: "It seems wrong somehow but I love you, <FirstName>. 'Tis better to
> have half your heart than none at all."
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Oh my. Play a female character and go with Valen - he's a lot less
complicated.

Best wishes
Maxon
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Maxon wrote:
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(menage-a-trois with both female romance interests)

> Oh my. Play a female character and go with Valen - he's a lot less
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Just not being greedy is less complicated there. :-p You don't /have/
to try to persuade them both to romance you at once.
Anonymous
April 25, 2005 6:17:03 AM

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Barry Scott Will wrote:
> Well, you don't actually get any "action",

If you want to see plenty of action, watch how much my Meeps get in my Meeps "module". Easy to link to from the link in
my sig.
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April 25, 2005 9:24:27 PM

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Kish wrote:
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> to try to persuade them both to romance you at once.


Actually, it's not that difficult. Just play through with both as
henchpersons and be sympathetic and kind. The dialogue I quoted only
shows up in a very specific place: If you've declared your love for Nat,
but not for Ari and are in the Realm of the Reaper waiting to re-enter
Waterdeep for the final showdown. Then Ari interrupts with a
conversation that leads to the aforementioned dialogue.

Otherwise, you can follow each woman's "romance" dialogue normally, and
if you declare your love for each prior to return to Waterdeep, you'll
see nothing about a menage a trois. You will get the "romance" ending
for each character. There's really nothing "greedy" about it, unless you
deliberately milk the situation along to get the final dialogue I quoted.
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April 25, 2005 9:26:52 PM

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Maxon wrote:
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My first time through was with a female character. I still ended up
taking both Nat and Ari as henchwomen (no romance, though--this isn't
KotOR). I couldn't stand Valen (or Deekin for that matter), so took the
"leftovers". They worked so well together (leveling Nat as a wizard), I
used them again when I played through with a male character. That's when
I discovered the little bit of fanTAsy put in by Bioware. :) 
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Pyric RPG Publications
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Anonymous
April 30, 2005 10:42:47 PM

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We were a monk and Aribeth kept needed healing. I think Aribeth is not
overpowered and is fine as she is as you get to have a fight and be tactical
about what you do too.
"ikke" <iemand@ergens.nl> wrote in message
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> Hey there
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> I just finished HOTU, or more precisely, aribeth fininished HOTU for me.
> The heavily damage reducted Mephistoles wasn't very impressed by the hits
> of my level 25 monk (2 or 3 damage per hit on average), but aribeth on the
> other hand kicked his ass by taking swings of 8 or 9 damage at him, not
> missing much of her attacks.
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> The moment I took aritbeth as my henchmen, I felt more like I was HER
> henchmen, since she finished off her opponents at the same speed as I did,
> sometimes even faster. (it was not like I couldn't handle them, she just
> did it better ;-p) Did any of you had this experience? Is Aribeth
> overpowered as a henchmen, or just powerful?
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> Just felt like asking some opinions ;-p
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