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That will be a sad day :cry:

Reply to Everett

add-in gfx companies will have to keep being more clever in order to stake their claim of marketshare in a gpu economy like this, I suppose.

I think we're already seeing more of this, companies offering custom cooling solutions and factory OCs in order to differentiate their products on the market.

At the same time, the cost of high end GPUs have ascended greatly over the past half-decade as well. Is all of this extra $$ being lost in the cost of manufacturing, or is the profit off of the cards rising as well?

I don't know enough about this to be able to be able to give an informed opinion.

Reply to radicalentity

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Moreover, the trend towards desktop replacement with notebooks, which started roughly seven years ago in some countries, affects sales of desktops: already now the pace of market growth for laptops is higher than that of desktops.



Integrated everything is obstruction in my view. Might as well buy a damned console. Say goodbye to the 27 inch LCD and upgrade options? Don't think so as.-wipes.

Reply to blacken

What I want to see is something like a modular desktop.

Laptop plugs into stay-at-home hardware, which would contain things like more physical HDDs, beefier GPUs, more optical drives, and maybe even a 2nd core.

The laptop unplugs from the docking station, and you have your basic laptop hardware, with integrated / simpler graphics for on-the-go.

Allows for the laptop market to expand and grow and opens up new function for the desktop sector.

Reply to radicalentity

Vista is going to boost Add in cards, Integrated Graphics just don't cut the mustard for the aeroglass interface and the last thing you want on a vista machine is your RAM getting used elsewhere.

Reply to locky28

I guess the question is are things going to get more modular (stay at home, plug in components), more uniform (ala AMD's fusion) or both?

Reply to radicalentity

With the progression of consoles it's looking like they may eventualy play that home-theater role your talking about. Internet, hard drive, o/s - give it a mouse and keyboard and upgradability, it's a PC. It's sure to come.

Without upgrading, you'l be buying a stereo as example - if the hardware doesn't cut it, you'l be forced to buy a whole new system. :? Monopoly? Not cool.

Reply to blacken

HAhahahaha that article is funny . Does he even know what he is talking about i mean the gaming industry makes more money than hollywood .

Games=Vista (microsoft) (worth a few trillions :D ) Pine = 354 million hahahaha

World = Money = Power = domination = microsoft

Hmm i mean how many companies lets see Nvdia Ati all down the toilet , yeah could happen i mean if it happened to Voodoo . Then Intel down the toilet cause who buys premium products , oh yeah the guy who is using word nah i dont think so.

This guy should be fired just for talking like that and being part of the graphics industry :lol:

This aint ever happening except in dreams :D

Reply to slashzapper

It's not far off the potential future, but depends alot on intel and AMD's reactions to the future opportunities.

If AMD and intel both worry most about maximizing profits, then they will go for the fat middle and low-end, and not the expensive and low margin high end.

With the large number of low-mid entrants (intel, VIA/S3, and the return of SIS), that means alot less profit to be made to finance the high-end and it's R&D costs, you likely won't see anywhere near the pace we have seen in the last few generations (GF7 to GF8 was about 16 month refresh cycle). It's very likely we will see the development slow somewhat and the move to modular VPUs will mean that they will make GPU-X and then if they can make it financially viable then scale the design somewhat with 1-4 GPU-X units (similar to the gemini, volari duo, and even GX2 solutions). But even like SLi, and the the GX2 solutions, it just passes on the cost to the board partners, who somehow have to mount all these chips onto one card or onto one motherboard. It's not going to be easy and multi-core address more of the transistor count issue than the viability of exotic high end solutions.

Now despite the GF8800 launch and Xmas time, desktop sales dropped this year (with nV also losing market share despite having the top 2 performance cards);
http://www.beyond3d.com/articles/q406gpumarket/

Unfortunately not everything is the high end, and it's unlikely that we will see the kind of aggressive struggle we've seen in the last 5 years once the new entrants start chipping away at all the profits of the X1300/1600 & GF7300/7600 cards.

I think the only time we'll even have an idea of what the future holds is once we see what both intel and AMD have planned beyond what nV and ATi originally had planned from their duopoly. If intel and AMD want the PR benifit of being king of the hill then it's a good thing for us IMO as it likely means 3 competitors, however if they don't care and leave that market to nV or the others, then that's a bad thing IMO as it will likely mean that in order to be number 1 the remaining king will have to slowdown the pace of development to avoid wasting money, and this wil leave us with just whatever they feel like releasing at their own pace.

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