Current Confirmed things to do:
1. Apply Shin-Etsu X23 (as per DaClan testing)
2. Look for a water cooling solution to eliminate the noise and hopefully improve performance and component cooling and overall system temp.
3. Find a solution to do this! that hopefully isnt $1600.00
Additional Stuff to do:
-Find a TV Tuner that works well in the UK with electonic programming
-Find a way to "broadcast" media to other pcs around the house/i-net
I have a koolance exos 2 and am looking at getting the pc4-1025sl. I got that system for the same reasons. to get low temps and get a really really quite system.
I think the ERM-3K4U1 (1 Pump) is overkill it is meant for 4+ multi core servers. I would recommend the
KIT-1050SL Kit, Silver that will be good enough.
Why would you need a 6mm and a 10mm it doesn't make any sense. but for the KIT-1050SL Kit, you only need the 10mm
Shutoff Valve, 10mm Pair w/ L-Bracket $29.99
Shutoff Valve, 6mm Pair w/ L-Bracket $29.99
That will cut your cost by $500
this is still alot of money but not if you consider what your getting.
but as I said the ERM-3K4U1 (1 Pump) is overkill, I can not beleave koolance recommended it. my setup cost me $800 bucks. And I really would recommend koolance when it comes to water cooling.
Ok, well theres silent and then theres SILENT... ya know...?
IMHO, water cooling ram and HDDS is total BS!!!! Cheap azz zalman type ramsink is perfect for ram and vga ram too. As for hdds... ive got 4, and i use 2x antec 120mm internal fans 2 cool them. They are REALLY quiet and cool v well.
Main problems i have with my water setup (which i got from dangerden and totally love it!), cost under $300
1. I OC a lot so my NB gets hot and used to cause problems, but thats cos i was too lazy to setup proper internal airflow. Remember... with water u STILL need some sort of airflow. Bigger fans shift more air with less noise.
2. STILL havent gotten around to getting 2x good fans for the rad, and a custom shroud, so its a little too loud, but still WAY quieter than a normal pc.
To keep it quiet, id look for a heatercore/oil cooler on ebay. Get the biggest one u can justify putting in. Then get the biggest fans u can, i think there are some 150cm?? ones around, 2x of those @ 800rpm will make bugger all noise but shitf enuf air.
All in all, dont try to water cool EVERY component. CPU, GPU and MAYBE NB if u wanna waste cash. Otherwise use as big a fan as u can. All this should also cost under $300.
Im also looking at foam insulation for inside my case.
Hmmm seems i understand now why he recommended that unit.
The internal 1050 series units run the pump fairly hard therefore it runs noisy, which kind of seems to defeat one of the reasons to go with a watercooling.
The second is that the distance the unit will be housed from the main case if i was to take the external option. Apparently the quality of cooling is seriously harmed whilst using an external system if the distance between the watercooling system and the case itself is over 2-3 ft
The system the guy from koolance recommended would allow me to house it neatly away up to approximately 15-20ft they approximate, without seeing too many issues in terms of performance drop in cooling and whilst maintaining good sound levels with the cooling apparatus being housed nice and neatly away.
Again i am a novice in all matters concerning watercooling so if that makes sense or if an alternative to that suggestion is out there would appreciate to hear it.
Interesting, so you want to liquid cool the cpu, video card, ram, and x2 pairs of hard drives.
But you don't want change from a case that already has run out of room from the picts?
Sure the tubing can be run and you can probably stick the pump inside the case, but there is no way a radiator is fitting in there and getting you decent airflow, which means the tubing is coming out the back end.
Plus as has been mentioned you are still going to need at least one fan in there keep ambient temperature down which will negatively affect your watercooling abilities.
You can get quiet 80 mm fans but you have to find them at a computer show or order them on line. Unless you blare your tv at some point you will notice fans that run over 30 db. That used to happen to me when the tv would go quiet and suddenly you could hear the fans and it would sound odd, but actually the fan itself wasn't that loud.
You should be able to use the Koolance Exos 2 to mount to the back of the case and run hoses through a PCI slot and while the 120 mm fans should be quieter than the 80 mm ones you have.
People complain about koolance systems because of the prices, but I've used 2 koolance systems and HTPC's and gaming systems and the loudest thing in that area is the fan on the back of the HDTV.
That said since you are pretty much forced to go with an external radiator no matter which brand you chose, there isn't much point to watercooling the ram since you're still going to need a fan to cool the ambient temperature inside the case anyway as the heat from the north and south bridge will just linger, the hard drives will not be totally cooled by the water blocks as the WD ones have a "radiator" on one side to send excess heat into the case and the koolance blocks just cool the circuit board.
Plus the powersupply is expecting cool air in its intake so it can spit out some hot air.
You do have some options for pumps and radiators and a few are fairly quiet. I don't know how many of those can handle the 4-5 waterblocks and still be quiet though.
I think its doable but that pump is definitely overkill.
The PC next to my TV is an old koolance model PC2-C (80mm fans) and is quite few years old, but cools the CPU, northbridge and video card, keeps 3 WD raptors cool (75, 150,150) stays at around 32 cel and is quieter than my HDTV when muted.
I agree; your case is way too small for all the stuff you are talking about. The HHD blocks and RAM blocks aren't really necessary. You can get drive coolers with fans that are much cheaper and don't require tubing to be routed. As for your RAM, get one of those RAM fan coolers.
I have one of these, and its a nice touch to the case. Plus, I have read some conflicting sides of RAM coolers and slowing the flow of water in your cooling loop because they need small fittings like 1/4"...most water loops are 3/8", but Koolance might be native 1/4". Another thing...RAM waterblocks are another expensive piece.
Your case looks pretty cramped, so you are going to be limited in what you decide to use INSIDE. I would suggest one of these pump/res combos:
But I also saw that Koolance has an all-in-one setup also: Koolance combo
It looks rather nice
Remember, make sure you do your homework before buying your parts, and get a mental idea of how to route your tubing before you start. Take pics and draw diagrams if needed. If you want, I can send/post pics of my rig and water loop if you want. Just let me know.