Is there an EASE OF USE mod for this game?

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I cant not believe I am actually redoing my HP each level-up until I
get max. Haven't done that in quite some time in Baldur's Gate thanks
to the Ease of Use Mod. Is there something similar for Neverwinter
Nights that would work with the official Bioware campaign? Thanks.
 
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On Wed, 18 May 2005 00:18:01 -0400, Mike S. <mike@nowhere.com> wrote:

>I cant not believe I am actually redoing my HP each level-up until I
>get max. Haven't done that in quite some time in Baldur's Gate thanks
>to the Ease of Use Mod. Is there something similar for Neverwinter
>Nights that would work with the official Bioware campaign? Thanks.

Why do you feel the need to cheat?
 
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Mike S. wrote:
> I cant not believe I am actually redoing my HP each level-up until I
> get max. Haven't done that in quite some time in Baldur's Gate thanks
> to the Ease of Use Mod. Is there something similar for Neverwinter
> Nights that would work with the official Bioware campaign? Thanks.

I can't believe you find the game so hard that you must do this.
 
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Mike S. schrieb:
> I cant not believe I am actually redoing my HP each level-up until I
> get max. Haven't done that in quite some time in Baldur's Gate thanks
> to the Ease of Use Mod. Is there something similar for Neverwinter
> Nights that would work with the official Bioware campaign? Thanks.

If you want to cheat, why not use the console?

Greetings
Arne Steffens

PS: I think you could beat the game with ease without max hitpoint at
lvl up.
 
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On Wed, 18 May 2005 17:50:42 -0400, John Salerno
<johnjsal@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>I can't believe you find the game so hard that you must do this.

This coming from the guy who has to post one hundred times to get
advice over every little thing. In this game and in Baldur's Gate.
 
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On Wed, 18 May 2005 20:25:04 +0200, Arne Steffens
<news.15.wackelzahn@spamgourmet.com> wrote:

>Mike S. schrieb:
>> I cant not believe I am actually redoing my HP each level-up until I
>> get max. Haven't done that in quite some time in Baldur's Gate thanks
>> to the Ease of Use Mod. Is there something similar for Neverwinter
>> Nights that would work with the official Bioware campaign? Thanks.
>
>If you want to cheat, why not use the console?

This isn't a bad idea actually. I had forgotten the game even has one
that is readily accessible.

>PS: I think you could beat the game with ease without max hitpoint at
>lvl up.

I don't think anyone ever used the max HP on level up in Baldur's Gate
because they thought the game was too hard otherwise.
 
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On Wed, 18 May 2005 17:32:58 -0700, Loren Pechtel
<lorenpechtel@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote:

>Why do you feel the need to cheat?

Ok so I am guessing from the responses that there isn't an Ease of Use
mod then? <g>
 
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On Wed, 18 May 2005 17:32:58 -0700, Loren Pechtel
<lorenpechtel@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote:

>Why do you feel the need to cheat?

i think, for some people, it's not so much a 'need to cheat' as it is a sort of
'obsessive/compulsive' kind of thing. "i could do better than that", you think.
so you do it over and over, until you get perfect...

eudas
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 05:03:11 GMT, eudas <eudas@kdi.com> wrote:

>i think, for some people, it's not so much a 'need to cheat' as it is a sort of
>'obsessive/compulsive' kind of thing. "i could do better than that", you think.
>so you do it over and over, until you get perfect...

Or maybe I just don't want a random die roll to give me 7 hitpoints
every level instead of 12.
 
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Mike S. wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2005 17:50:42 -0400, John Salerno
> <johnjsal@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
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>>I can't believe you find the game so hard that you must do this.
>
>
> This coming from the guy who has to post one hundred times to get
> advice over every little thing. In this game and in Baldur's Gate.

What are you talking about?
 
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 17:52:40 -0400, John Salerno
<johnjsal@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>What are you talking about?

Apparently *you* find the game so difficult, that you have to get
advice on the most basic of things like which of two low level armors
you should wear! I figured out for myself most of the stuff you had to
post about over the past months and yet you have the nerve to suggest
that I think the game is hard! I don't want max HP because I find the
game too difficult. I simply don't like something as important as my
hitpoints being decided by one random die roll every level up. An ease
of use mod, like the one that already exists for Baldur's Gate, would
save me the trouble of releveling until I get decent HP. I figured
that an ease of use mod for this game would also add other nice things
to the game as it did for Baldur's Gate. And so I wanted to know if
one existed. I had already checked via google, but nothing came up.

Regardless of what you think of the above, a simple yes or no to my
original question would have sufficed and this thread would already be
dead.
 
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 06:25:02 -0400, Mike S. <mike@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 19 May 2005 05:03:11 GMT, eudas <eudas@kdi.com> wrote:
>
>>i think, for some people, it's not so much a 'need to cheat' as it is a sort of
>>'obsessive/compulsive' kind of thing. "i could do better than that", you think.
>>so you do it over and over, until you get perfect...
>
>Or maybe I just don't want a random die roll to give me 7 hitpoints
>every level instead of 12.

umm, yes, but that isn't that sort of the point of the system? that
characters grow in random ways, not the maximum possible every level ?
 
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Belit wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2005 06:25:02 -0400, Mike S. <mike@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
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>>On Thu, 19 May 2005 05:03:11 GMT, eudas <eudas@kdi.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>i think, for some people, it's not so much a 'need to cheat' as it is a sort of
>>>'obsessive/compulsive' kind of thing. "i could do better than that", you think.
>>>so you do it over and over, until you get perfect...
>>
>>Or maybe I just don't want a random die roll to give me 7 hitpoints
>>every level instead of 12.
>
>
> umm, yes, but that isn't that sort of the point of the system? that
> characters grow in random ways, not the maximum possible every level ?
I was really surprised that when I got my physics phd I didn't
immediately become Stephen Hawking; where's the Ease of Use mod for life :)
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 10:48:04 +0100, Belit <dot@dot.dot.dot> wrote:

>umm, yes, but that isn't that sort of the point of the system? that
>characters grow in random ways, not the maximum possible every level ?

If you want a gimped character at level 20 due to some poor random die
rolls, perhaps because you like the increased challenge, then more
power to you.
 

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Mike S. kirjoitti:
> On Fri, 20 May 2005 10:48:04 +0100, Belit <dot@dot.dot.dot> wrote:
>
>
>>umm, yes, but that isn't that sort of the point of the system? that
>>characters grow in random ways, not the maximum possible every level ?
>
>
> If you want a gimped character at level 20 due to some poor random die
> rolls, perhaps because you like the increased challenge, then more
> power to you.

Getting the lowest hp on every level up is very unlikely... Even the
lowest on about half of the levels (which reasonably might happen) will
provide you with a decent character. Role-players vs. Power-players
issue of course.
 
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I can't say I even noticed what HP I gained every time I levelled up my
character - I wasn't paying attention to that. I still finished the EP
campaigns twice without any problems and my second character as gone on to
wallop her way through Shadow over Heliopolis which seems to be a fairly
tough mod. I often find that changing tactics for a fight makes the
difference between winning it easily and getting basted. But then I tend to
favour non-fighter-type characters and the use of alternative tactics is a
necessity.

Ah well.
Best wishes
Maxon


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> Mike S. kirjoitti:
> > On Fri, 20 May 2005 10:48:04 +0100, Belit <dot@dot.dot.dot> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>umm, yes, but that isn't that sort of the point of the system? that
> >>characters grow in random ways, not the maximum possible every level ?
> >
> >
> > If you want a gimped character at level 20 due to some poor random die
> > rolls, perhaps because you like the increased challenge, then more
> > power to you.
>
> Getting the lowest hp on every level up is very unlikely... Even the
> lowest on about half of the levels (which reasonably might happen) will
> provide you with a decent character. Role-players vs. Power-players
> issue of course.
 
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 01:23:05 -0400, Mike S. <mike@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 18 May 2005 17:32:58 -0700, Loren Pechtel
><lorenpechtel@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Why do you feel the need to cheat?
>
>Ok so I am guessing from the responses that there isn't an Ease of Use
>mod then? <g>

I've sure never looked for one.

Have you investigated what happens when you set the difficulty to
easy?
 
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 06:25:02 -0400, Mike S. <mike@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 19 May 2005 05:03:11 GMT, eudas <eudas@kdi.com> wrote:
>
>>i think, for some people, it's not so much a 'need to cheat' as it is a sort of
>>'obsessive/compulsive' kind of thing. "i could do better than that", you think.
>>so you do it over and over, until you get perfect...
>
>Or maybe I just don't want a random die roll to give me 7 hitpoints
>every level instead of 12.

If you're using a d12, 7 is just above average. Nothing wrong with
that.

I just recently played the OC with one character with slightly boosted
stats but no henchman. (I got tired of their idiotic behavior.) So
far I've gone into battle with a henchman once dealing with that
Balor? in the Luskan tower. He kept casting that spell I think might
be implosion and there was simply nothing I could do about it, I
always failed my save and died. Against the Death Slaad I had enough
space and was able to keep the range open, I was ok. Against the
Balors guarding the wizards during the seige I got lucky and a few
reloads let me drop them without them getting off that spell. I'm up
against Aribeth now and I've decided to give up and bring Daelan to
take the spell. Note that the only issue is the save-or-die spell, in
no other way has it been too hard.
 
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Mike S. wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2005 17:52:40 -0400, John Salerno
> <johnjsal@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
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>>What are you talking about?
>
>
> Apparently *you* find the game so difficult, that you have to get
> advice on the most basic of things like which of two low level armors
> you should wear! I figured out for myself most of the stuff you had to
> post about over the past months and yet you have the nerve to suggest
> that I think the game is hard! I don't want max HP because I find the
> game too difficult. I simply don't like something as important as my
> hitpoints being decided by one random die roll every level up. An ease
> of use mod, like the one that already exists for Baldur's Gate, would
> save me the trouble of releveling until I get decent HP. I figured
> that an ease of use mod for this game would also add other nice things
> to the game as it did for Baldur's Gate. And so I wanted to know if
> one existed. I had already checked via google, but nothing came up.
>
> Regardless of what you think of the above, a simple yes or no to my
> original question would have sufficed and this thread would already be
> dead.

I'm still not too sure what you're talking about. I don't recall posting
many questions to this board. As far as armor goes, I played a mage for
the OC so I never wore armor anyway, so why would I ask about that?
 
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 06:32:12 -0400, Mike S. <mike@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 20 May 2005 10:48:04 +0100, Belit <dot@dot.dot.dot> wrote:
>
>>umm, yes, but that isn't that sort of the point of the system? that
>>characters grow in random ways, not the maximum possible every level ?
>
>If you want a gimped character at level 20 due to some poor random die
>rolls, perhaps because you like the increased challenge, then more
>power to you.

It might happen to somebody, somewhere, sometime. It's not going to
happen often enough to worry about.

Your problem is that you don't realize that a 7 on a d12 isn't bad.
 
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 17:56:12 -0400, John Salerno
<johnjsal@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>I'm still not too sure what you're talking about. I don't recall posting
>many questions to this board. As far as armor goes, I played a mage for
>the OC so I never wore armor anyway, so why would I ask about that?

You post a ton of questions over the last six months that were easily
answerable by yourself. Its all there John. Including your silly armor
question. ;) I just got the game a few weeks ago, so I have been
reading up on older messages. It is as if you can not decide on
anything without help from usenetters. So don't suggest that I find
the game too hard. I certainly didn't need any help to get as far as I
did. As far as the OC is concerned, up to getting to Luskan, it has
been pretty easy so far.
 
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John Salerno wrote:
> Mike S. wrote:
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>> On Thu, 19 May 2005 17:52:40 -0400, John Salerno
>> <johnjsal@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> What are you talking about?
>>
>>
>>
>> Apparently *you* find the game so difficult, that you have to get
>> advice on the most basic of things like which of two low level armors
>> you should wear! I figured out for myself most of the stuff you had to
>> post about over the past months and yet you have the nerve to suggest
>> that I think the game is hard! I don't want max HP because I find the
>> game too difficult. I simply don't like something as important as my
>> hitpoints being decided by one random die roll every level up. An ease
>> of use mod, like the one that already exists for Baldur's Gate, would
>> save me the trouble of releveling until I get decent HP. I figured
>> that an ease of use mod for this game would also add other nice things
>> to the game as it did for Baldur's Gate. And so I wanted to know if
>> one existed. I had already checked via google, but nothing came up.
>>
>> Regardless of what you think of the above, a simple yes or no to my
>> original question would have sufficed and this thread would already be
>> dead.
>
>
> I'm still not too sure what you're talking about. I don't recall posting
> many questions to this board. As far as armor goes, I played a mage for
> the OC so I never wore armor anyway, so why would I ask about that?
John,
Don't bite on this flamebait. He seems to be someone who prolly never
played P&P D&D and just wants an easy way to play all the campaigns
available to us, without having to actually role-play and accept the
consequences.
The sooner this thread is ended the better.
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 22:02:08 GMT, Central Scrutinizer
<tdyl@blueyonderthepiss.co.uk> wrote:

>John,
>Don't bite on this flamebait.

I want to know if a certain mod exists for this game that I did make a
reasonable search for myself first. Instead of a simple yes or no, I
get everything from the evils of cheating to John's message of how
inadequate I am at playing this game! And you have the nerve to tell
me that *I* am flamebaiting? Sorry, but the messages are right there
in black and white electrons for anyone to see.

> He seems to be someone who prolly never
>played P&P D&D

So? What does that have to do with anything?

>and just wants an easy way to play all the campaigns
>available to us, without having to actually role-play and accept the
>consequences.

The very first character I always play is a paladin. I choose every
option that I think he would choose, even when it means not accepting
money for completing a quest. I never even loot the damn houses
despite the fact there is no penalty for doing so. That right there
is more roleplaying then most people reading this very message engage
in. At the exact same time, I was getting bored at redoing my levels
until I got decent HP. Harmless really. I thought so anyway. :)
 
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Mike S. wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2005 17:56:12 -0400, John Salerno
> <johnjsal@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I'm still not too sure what you're talking about. I don't recall posting
>>many questions to this board. As far as armor goes, I played a mage for
>>the OC so I never wore armor anyway, so why would I ask about that?
>
>
> You post a ton of questions over the last six months that were easily
> answerable by yourself. Its all there John. Including your silly armor
> question. ;) I just got the game a few weeks ago, so I have been
> reading up on older messages. It is as if you can not decide on
> anything without help from usenetters. So don't suggest that I find
> the game too hard. I certainly didn't need any help to get as far as I
> did. As far as the OC is concerned, up to getting to Luskan, it has
> been pretty easy so far.

Well, I'm still not convinced of this, but I'm willing to bet that the
questions I asked were oriented toward what other people thought of
certain things, advice on how something could be done, etc., and *not*
asking how to advance in the game because I thought it was too hard. So
you're original point still doesn't make sense.
 
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 22:34:14 -0400, John Salerno
<johnjsal@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>Well, I'm still not convinced of this, but I'm willing to bet that the
>questions I asked were oriented toward what other people thought of
>certain things, advice on how something could be done, etc., and *not*
>asking how to advance in the game because I thought it was too hard. So
>you're original point still doesn't make sense.

John, none of this really matters. What matters is that your original
response to my question was rude. Read it again. As was several other
responses that I got. If I want to roleplay, powerplay, cheat or any
combination thereof of the game that I bought and paid for, that is my
choice. That is what it comes down to.
 

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