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Hi

I've been using a Dell Axim for a month or so and found that the on button
gets pressed easily in the case.

The last time this happened, the Axim appears to have been on for a long
time and has done a full (hard) reset - i.e. it erased all data and was not
recognised by the pc when syncing

Is this normal ? (are there any circumstances under which an error free Axim
shoud do this) or is it a clear indication of a faulty system which should
be sent back to Dell ?

Thanks

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On Sat, 7 May 2005 16:21:50 +0000 (UTC), TC wrote:

> The last time this happened, the Axim appears to have been on for a long
> time and has done a full (hard) reset - i.e. it erased all data and was not
> recognised by the pc when syncing

You probably ran down both the main and backup batteries.

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On Sat, 7 May 2005 16:21:50 +0000 (UTC), TC wrote:

> Hi
>
> I've been using a Dell Axim for a month or so and found that the on button
> gets pressed easily in the case.
>
> The last time this happened, the Axim appears to have been on for a long
> time and has done a full (hard) reset - i.e. it erased all data and was not
> recognised by the pc when syncing
>
> Is this normal ? (are there any circumstances under which an error free Axim
> shoud do this) or is it a clear indication of a faulty system which should
> be sent back to Dell ?
>
> Thanks

Normal that the device makes a hard reset if it runs totally out of
battery? Yes! Normal that it is so easy to switch on unintentionally? No,
at least not on other brands of handhelds. But even if it does it should
turn itself off after a few minutes of inactivity unless You have altered
the power settings.
--
K

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The problem you get in the case though, is once the unit is switched on, any
minor pressure on the screen is seen as activity and keeps the device on.
Happens a lot in purses and pockets. You might check and see if you have it
set to come on when any of the buttons are pressed. That could be any of the
bottom six buttons and the record button. There is a setting that can
disable all those if the device is off. The power button is usually a
little harder to activate unintentionally than say, the record button on the
side.

--
Sven
MVP - Mobile Devices
"Kjell Harnesk" <nospam_kjell.harnesk@telia.com> wrote in message
news:6wndijt4rqny.1rmxub3judnpq$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sat, 7 May 2005 16:21:50 +0000 (UTC), TC wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I've been using a Dell Axim for a month or so and found that the on
>> button
>> gets pressed easily in the case.
>>
>> The last time this happened, the Axim appears to have been on for a long
>> time and has done a full (hard) reset - i.e. it erased all data and was
>> not
>> recognised by the pc when syncing
>>
>> Is this normal ? (are there any circumstances under which an error free
>> Axim
>> shoud do this) or is it a clear indication of a faulty system which
>> should
>> be sent back to Dell ?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Normal that the device makes a hard reset if it runs totally out of
> battery? Yes! Normal that it is so easy to switch on unintentionally? No,
> at least not on other brands of handhelds. But even if it does it should
> turn itself off after a few minutes of inactivity unless You have altered
> the power settings.
> --
> K

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On Sat, 7 May 2005 21:44:54 -0600, Sven wrote:

> The problem you get in the case though, is once the unit is switched on, any
> minor pressure on the screen is seen as activity and keeps the device on.
> Happens a lot in purses and pockets. You might check and see if you have it
> set to come on when any of the buttons are pressed. That could be any of the
> bottom six buttons and the record button. There is a setting that can
> disable all those if the device is off. The power button is usually a
> little harder to activate unintentionally than say, the record button on the
> side.

True. I have mine (Fujitsu-Siemens LOOX 420) setup so that only the power
on button will turn it on. And if I keep it in the leather case it´s almost
inpossible that it should go on by mistake.
--
K

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Thanks Guys - looks like user error rather than mechanical failure.

I'm new to PDAs, but this amazes me. I use numerous small portable computer
systems (dataloggers mostly) and all have tiny system batteries which saves
volitile data for months, in the event of a complete draining of priamry and
secondary batteries.

I presume there is a serious reason why this cannot be the case for PDA,
'cos it seems a real point of vulnerability.

Tobit

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Well take heart. WM2005, which was announced today, does address that issue.
Initially the concept required as quick an instant on as possible, which
dictated an architecture that held the device in suspend with everything in
RAM and requiring power to keep it refreshed. That and the fact that these
items are used for alarms and reminders, necessitated power use, even when
the device appeared 'off' to the user.

The new memory architecture, doesn't change the fact that RAM needs
refreshing and processor activity is needed to support alarms and
notifications, as well as incoming call and message support for connected
devices, but it does put the essentials in non-volatile storage so a
complete drain doesn't mean a hard reset.

That feature though will require an upgrade to WM2005, which some OEMs have
announced as an upgrade to some models, or a new device, when those become
available.

--
Sven
MVP - Mobile Devices
"TC" <tc@DON'TSPAMMEtcassociates.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Thanks Guys - looks like user error rather than mechanical failure.
>
> I'm new to PDAs, but this amazes me. I use numerous small portable
> computer
> systems (dataloggers mostly) and all have tiny system batteries which
> saves
> volitile data for months, in the event of a complete draining of priamry
> and
> secondary batteries.
>
> I presume there is a serious reason why this cannot be the case for PDA,
> 'cos it seems a real point of vulnerability.
>
> Tobit
>
>

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