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Anonymous
May 10, 2005 3:49:43 PM

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I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is based
on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in short-term
sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after owning it for 3
months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will buy anything but Dell
the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers, monitors, LCD TVs, etc.

Well...already had to have my credit card company intervene when it took
them more than 60 days to refund a returned item...now this. Yup...I'm
pretty much done with Dell.

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Anonymous
May 10, 2005 5:55:39 PM

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Jeff,

While I can understand your frustration, this has been a pretty common thing
for most of the P/PC OEMs out there. Most of them only offer these types of
upgrades on their high end units - and even then some don't offer them at
all. Although it isn't a direct comparison, very few upgrades were offered
on WM2K3SE.

I guess my point is that it isn't just Dell.

Regards,

--
Clinton Fitch
Senior Editor / Owner
Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
http://www.clintonfitch.com

A Pocket PC Magazine "Best Site" for Pocket PC Reviews!

"Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
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>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is based
>on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in short-term
>sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after owning it for 3
>months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will buy anything but Dell
>the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers, monitors, LCD TVs, etc.
>
> Well...already had to have my credit card company intervene when it took
> them more than 60 days to refund a returned item...now this. Yup...I'm
> pretty much done with Dell.
>
>
>
Anonymous
May 10, 2005 5:55:40 PM

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Lots of HP users won't be getting upgrades either.

--
Dave
www.davespda.com
Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)

"Clinton Fitch, Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!"
<management@NOSPAMMINGME.clintonfitch.com> wrote in message
news:eZMGcHZVFHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Jeff,
>
> While I can understand your frustration, this has been a pretty common
> thing for most of the P/PC OEMs out there. Most of them only offer these
> types of upgrades on their high end units - and even then some don't offer
> them at all. Although it isn't a direct comparison, very few upgrades
> were offered on WM2K3SE.
>
> I guess my point is that it isn't just Dell.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Clinton Fitch
> Senior Editor / Owner
> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>
> A Pocket PC Magazine "Best Site" for Pocket PC Reviews!
>
> "Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
> news:eMFPIEZVFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
>>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is based
>>on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in short-term
>>sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after owning it for 3
>>months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will buy anything but
>>Dell the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers, monitors, LCD TVs,
>>etc.
>>
>> Well...already had to have my credit card company intervene when it took
>> them more than 60 days to refund a returned item...now this. Yup...I'm
>> pretty much done with Dell.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Anonymous
May 10, 2005 5:55:41 PM

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Will HP users of models being sold TODAY be able to upgrade?


"David Conger, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <dave at davespda.com> wrote in
message news:o IX2VJZVFHA.2796@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Lots of HP users won't be getting upgrades either.
>
> --
> Dave
> www.davespda.com
> Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)
>
> "Clinton Fitch, Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!"
> <management@NOSPAMMINGME.clintonfitch.com> wrote in message
> news:eZMGcHZVFHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Jeff,
>>
>> While I can understand your frustration, this has been a pretty common
>> thing for most of the P/PC OEMs out there. Most of them only offer these
>> types of upgrades on their high end units - and even then some don't
>> offer them at all. Although it isn't a direct comparison, very few
>> upgrades were offered on WM2K3SE.
>>
>> I guess my point is that it isn't just Dell.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Clinton Fitch
>> Senior Editor / Owner
>> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
>> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>>
>> A Pocket PC Magazine "Best Site" for Pocket PC Reviews!
>>
>> "Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
>> news:eMFPIEZVFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
>>>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is
>>>based on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in
>>>short-term sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after
>>>owning it for 3 months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will buy
>>>anything but Dell the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers,
>>>monitors, LCD TVs, etc.
>>>
>>> Well...already had to have my credit card company intervene when it took
>>> them more than 60 days to refund a returned item...now this. Yup...I'm
>>> pretty much done with Dell.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
May 10, 2005 5:55:42 PM

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Not necissarily. However the lack of upgrate to MW2005
doesn't truly leave you out in the cold...you've still
got a heck of a PPC!! - just my opinion.

xfiler


>-----Original Message-----
>Will HP users of models being sold TODAY be able to
upgrade?
>
>
>"David Conger, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <dave at
davespda.com> wrote in
>message news:o IX2VJZVFHA.2796@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Lots of HP users won't be getting upgrades either.
>>
>> --
>> Dave
>> www.davespda.com
>> Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)
>>
>> "Clinton Fitch, Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!"
>> <management@NOSPAMMINGME.clintonfitch.com> wrote in
message
>> news:eZMGcHZVFHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Jeff,
>>>
>>> While I can understand your frustration, this has
been a pretty common
>>> thing for most of the P/PC OEMs out there. Most of
them only offer these
>>> types of upgrades on their high end units - and even
then some don't
>>> offer them at all. Although it isn't a direct
comparison, very few
>>> upgrades were offered on WM2K3SE.
>>>
>>> I guess my point is that it isn't just Dell.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Clinton Fitch
>>> Senior Editor / Owner
>>> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
>>> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>>>
>>> A Pocket PC Magazine "Best Site" for Pocket PC
Reviews!
>>>
>>> "Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
>>> news:eMFPIEZVFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0
upgrade for the Axim
>>>>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible
decision...this is
>>>>based on pure greed. The decision may result in a
certain spike in
>>>>short-term sales for those who can afford to upgrade
hardware after
>>>>owning it for 3 months, but the rest of us will feel
spurned and will buy
>>>>anything but Dell the next time we need PDAs,
printers, computers,
>>>>monitors, LCD TVs, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Well...already had to have my credit card company
intervene when it took
>>>> them more than 60 days to refund a returned
item...now this. Yup...I'm
>>>> pretty much done with Dell.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>
Anonymous
May 10, 2005 5:55:42 PM

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If you are buying an hx2110, hx2420, hx2750, or hx4700, then yes.

--
Dave
www.davespda.com
Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)

"Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
news:uRG7kUZVFHA.3188@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Will HP users of models being sold TODAY be able to upgrade?
>
>
> "David Conger, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <dave at davespda.com> wrote in
> message news:o IX2VJZVFHA.2796@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Lots of HP users won't be getting upgrades either.
>>
>> --
>> Dave
>> www.davespda.com
>> Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)
>>
>> "Clinton Fitch, Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!"
>> <management@NOSPAMMINGME.clintonfitch.com> wrote in message
>> news:eZMGcHZVFHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Jeff,
>>>
>>> While I can understand your frustration, this has been a pretty common
>>> thing for most of the P/PC OEMs out there. Most of them only offer
>>> these types of upgrades on their high end units - and even then some
>>> don't offer them at all. Although it isn't a direct comparison, very
>>> few upgrades were offered on WM2K3SE.
>>>
>>> I guess my point is that it isn't just Dell.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Clinton Fitch
>>> Senior Editor / Owner
>>> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
>>> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>>>
>>> A Pocket PC Magazine "Best Site" for Pocket PC Reviews!
>>>
>>> "Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
>>> news:eMFPIEZVFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
>>>>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is
>>>>based on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in
>>>>short-term sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after
>>>>owning it for 3 months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will
>>>>buy anything but Dell the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers,
>>>>monitors, LCD TVs, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Well...already had to have my credit card company intervene when it
>>>> took them more than 60 days to refund a returned item...now this.
>>>> Yup...I'm pretty much done with Dell.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
May 10, 2005 7:24:26 PM

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Nope. Looks like the 6315 is orphaned. Makes me really glad to be an early
adopter of a converged device. I am just wondering what excuse HP will
offer. My money is on a contract issue with T-Mobile.

Geoff N. Hiten


"Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
news:uRG7kUZVFHA.3188@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Will HP users of models being sold TODAY be able to upgrade?
>
>
> "David Conger, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <dave at davespda.com> wrote in
> message news:o IX2VJZVFHA.2796@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Lots of HP users won't be getting upgrades either.
>>
>> --
>> Dave
>> www.davespda.com
>> Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)
>>
>> "Clinton Fitch, Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!"
>> <management@NOSPAMMINGME.clintonfitch.com> wrote in message
>> news:eZMGcHZVFHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Jeff,
>>>
>>> While I can understand your frustration, this has been a pretty common
>>> thing for most of the P/PC OEMs out there. Most of them only offer
>>> these types of upgrades on their high end units - and even then some
>>> don't offer them at all. Although it isn't a direct comparison, very
>>> few upgrades were offered on WM2K3SE.
>>>
>>> I guess my point is that it isn't just Dell.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Clinton Fitch
>>> Senior Editor / Owner
>>> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
>>> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>>>
>>> A Pocket PC Magazine "Best Site" for Pocket PC Reviews!
>>>
>>> "Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
>>> news:eMFPIEZVFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
>>>>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is
>>>>based on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in
>>>>short-term sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after
>>>>owning it for 3 months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will
>>>>buy anything but Dell the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers,
>>>>monitors, LCD TVs, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Well...already had to have my credit card company intervene when it
>>>> took them more than 60 days to refund a returned item...now this.
>>>> Yup...I'm pretty much done with Dell.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
May 10, 2005 8:00:54 PM

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This is standard Dell fare....they would offer the Second Edition upgrade to
X50 owners and hide very well the upgrade path from 2002 to 2003 (thought
they did offer this upgrade).

Harry

"Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
news:eMFPIEZVFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is based
>on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in short-term
>sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after owning it for 3
>months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will buy anything but Dell
>the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers, monitors, LCD TVs, etc.
>
> Well...already had to have my credit card company intervene when it took
> them more than 60 days to refund a returned item...now this. Yup...I'm
> pretty much done with Dell.
>
>
>
Anonymous
May 11, 2005 1:47:07 AM

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Dell offered a 2002 to 2003 upgrade for the X5. The X3 sold with 2003 and
did not get an SE upgrade. Both the X30 and X5 sold with 2003 SE from the
beginning. The X50, their latest offering is being offered an upgrade to
WM2005.

If you look at any other OEM, the record is similar, but at different times
with different models. No OEM is a guarantee of OS upgrades. Most everyone
has a fairly decent record of maintenance upgrades though. To paraphrase an
old Buddhist pearl... to raise your contentment, lower your desires ;) 

--
Sven
MVP - Mobile Devices
"Harry Simpson" <hssimpson@phgt.net> wrote in message
news:o zzA5KaVFHA.2700@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> This is standard Dell fare....they would offer the Second Edition upgrade
> to X50 owners and hide very well the upgrade path from 2002 to 2003
> (thought they did offer this upgrade).
>
> Harry
>
> "Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
> news:eMFPIEZVFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
>>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is based
>>on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in short-term
>>sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after owning it for 3
>>months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will buy anything but
>>Dell the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers, monitors, LCD TVs,
>>etc.
>>
>> Well...already had to have my credit card company intervene when it took
>> them more than 60 days to refund a returned item...now this. Yup...I'm
>> pretty much done with Dell.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
May 11, 2005 1:51:48 AM

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>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is based
>on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in short-term
>sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after owning it for 3
>months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will buy anything but Dell
>the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers, monitors, LCD TVs, etc.

Did they ever even HINT that the upgrade would be available? No? Then you
paid for
a WM 2003 device and that's what you got. If you bought it gambling on an
upgrade
then you lost. I don't see a problem with Dell there.

Tom Lake
Anonymous
May 11, 2005 12:37:54 PM

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"Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
news:eMFPIEZVFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
> X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is based
> on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in short-term
> sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after owning it for 3
> months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will buy anything but
Dell
> the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers, monitors, LCD TVs, etc.

Toshiba did the same thing on their E740. Folks, including myself, were
quite pissed, and for good reason. The 2002 OS couldn't do much with the
new CPU, making this unit as slow or slower than older, cheaper units. That
OS also had issues with wireless, and it was fairly buggy.

Now I have a Dell, paid much less for it than the Toshiba, and it works much
better right out of the box.

The point is you can expect the same thing from other brands, especially HP,
who has absolutely no idea what Product Support is all about.

Pagan

> Well...already had to have my credit card company intervene when it took
> them more than 60 days to refund a returned item...now this. Yup...I'm
> pretty much done with Dell.
>
>
>
Anonymous
May 12, 2005 12:29:51 AM

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Yep, Here we go, my nice ipaq 5450 is going to be not supported again, Why
should I buy a higher end PDA knowing that it will support the next OS, then
Compaq/HP screw their users. I have a 48mb flash on this unit and that will
never be used....

A 5 year old PC from them will get support for Windows XP, drivers, bios
updates and even the software that you can order through them, but, they
won't support a 2 year old PDA....or even a year and 1/2 old one....that
could more than support it....

Just ticks me off....

--
-Dave

Dave "aT" AnyWhereCool DoT "com"
ICQ: 10640235 / AIM: DavidinRI
http://www.AnyWhereCool.com


"David Conger, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <dave at davespda.com> wrote in
message news:o IX2VJZVFHA.2796@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Lots of HP users won't be getting upgrades either.
>
> --
> Dave
> www.davespda.com
> Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)
>
> "Clinton Fitch, Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!"
> <management@NOSPAMMINGME.clintonfitch.com> wrote in message
> news:eZMGcHZVFHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Jeff,
>>
>> While I can understand your frustration, this has been a pretty common
>> thing for most of the P/PC OEMs out there. Most of them only offer these
>> types of upgrades on their high end units - and even then some don't
>> offer them at all. Although it isn't a direct comparison, very few
>> upgrades were offered on WM2K3SE.
>>
>> I guess my point is that it isn't just Dell.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Clinton Fitch
>> Senior Editor / Owner
>> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
>> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>>
>> A Pocket PC Magazine "Best Site" for Pocket PC Reviews!
>>
>> "Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
>> news:eMFPIEZVFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
>>>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is
>>>based on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in
>>>short-term sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after
>>>owning it for 3 months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will buy
>>>anything but Dell the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers,
>>>monitors, LCD TVs, etc.
>>>
>>> Well...already had to have my credit card company intervene when it took
>>> them more than 60 days to refund a returned item...now this. Yup...I'm
>>> pretty much done with Dell.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
May 12, 2005 2:18:31 PM

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Then feel free to stay with them. I on the other hand expect more from
people who get significant payments of my money. No one 'hinted' that I
would be able to upgrade my computer's OS, but alas...I could do it. I
didn't 'gamble', it just makes sense to me that a new device that can handle
a upgrade get that upgrade. If you expect less, then you can continue to be
the happy recipient of poor customer relations.



> Did they ever even HINT that the upgrade would be available? No? Then
> you paid for
> a WM 2003 device and that's what you got. If you bought it gambling on an
> upgrade
> then you lost. I don't see a problem with Dell there.
>
> Tom Lake
>
Anonymous
May 12, 2005 7:51:54 PM

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and how many times have you been able to update your cell phone, dvd player,
toaster or microwave. I agree in part with what your saying, and was upset
when HP didnt offer an upgrade to 2003se for my PPC and am happy that Dell
is offering an upgrade for my X50, but in the end, I paid for the devices
because of what they could do when I bought them, not based on what they may
or may not do in the future.


"Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
news:udlHgaxVFHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| Then feel free to stay with them. I on the other hand expect more from
| people who get significant payments of my money. No one 'hinted' that I
| would be able to upgrade my computer's OS, but alas...I could do it. I
| didn't 'gamble', it just makes sense to me that a new device that can
handle
| a upgrade get that upgrade. If you expect less, then you can continue to
be
| the happy recipient of poor customer relations.
|
|
|
| > Did they ever even HINT that the upgrade would be available? No? Then
| > you paid for
| > a WM 2003 device and that's what you got. If you bought it gambling on
an
| > upgrade
| > then you lost. I don't see a problem with Dell there.
| >
| > Tom Lake
| >
|
|
Anonymous
May 14, 2005 5:06:04 PM

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David Conger, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices wrote:
> If you are buying an hx2110, hx2420, hx2750, or hx4700, then yes.
>

When I bought the h2210 I was comforted by the news that it will be
offered a ROM upgrade to 2003SE and consequently didn't worry about
having to wait for the 2003SE devices; I'm sure about this, it wasn't
something I heard from a salesman, it was all over the net. HP, though,
having already bought it, apprently changed their mind a little later
on.

I would suggest anyone considering a current model who wants 2005 to
NOT trust them.

> --
> Dave
> www.davespda.com
> Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)
>
> "Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
> news:uRG7kUZVFHA.3188@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Will HP users of models being sold TODAY be able to upgrade?
> >
> >
> > "David Conger, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <dave at davespda.com> wrote
in
> > message news:o IX2VJZVFHA.2796@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> Lots of HP users won't be getting upgrades either.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dave
> >> www.davespda.com
> >> Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)
> >>
> >> "Clinton Fitch, Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!"
> >> <management@NOSPAMMINGME.clintonfitch.com> wrote in message
> >> news:eZMGcHZVFHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >>> Jeff,
> >>>
> >>> While I can understand your frustration, this has been a pretty
common
> >>> thing for most of the P/PC OEMs out there. Most of them only
offer
> >>> these types of upgrades on their high end units - and even then
some
> >>> don't offer them at all. Although it isn't a direct comparison,
very
> >>> few upgrades were offered on WM2K3SE.
> >>>
> >>> I guess my point is that it isn't just Dell.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Clinton Fitch
> >>> Senior Editor / Owner
> >>> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
> >>> http://www.clintonfitch.com
> >>>
> >>> A Pocket PC Magazine "Best Site" for Pocket PC Reviews!
> >>>
> >>> "Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote in message
> >>> news:eMFPIEZVFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >>>>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for
the Axim
> >>>>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this
is
> >>>>based on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike
in
> >>>>short-term sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware
after
> >>>>owning it for 3 months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and
will
> >>>>buy anything but Dell the next time we need PDAs, printers,
computers,
> >>>>monitors, LCD TVs, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well...already had to have my credit card company intervene when
it
> >>>> took them more than 60 days to refund a returned item...now
this.
> >>>> Yup...I'm pretty much done with Dell.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
May 15, 2005 2:11:20 AM

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On Tue, 10 May 2005 11:49:43 -0700, "Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose .
com> wrote:

>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is based
>on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in short-term
>sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after owning it for 3
>months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will buy anything but Dell
>the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers, monitors, LCD TVs, etc.
>

People don't seem to realise that it actually may be due to hardware
limitations that 'older' PPC such as the X30h are unable to be
upgraded to WM5.0

One of the new features of WM5.0 is a radical change in memory
management - using ROM for program storage, and RAM purely for running
programs. The X50V has 128MB ROM, but I presume that the X30H only
has 64MB ROM, which would leave no room to store programs (except for
memory cards I suppose).

See this article:

http://www.brighthand.com/article/Persistent_Memory_Sto...
Anonymous
June 27, 2005 1:43:24 AM

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Jason - the low end X50 has the same ROM as the x30.


"Jason" <jasont@lexicon.removeit.net> wrote in message
news:aitc81lqnblkfs1b1n53hg7bvb0uo630f9@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 May 2005 11:49:43 -0700, "Jeff Daly" <jeff @ dalydose .
> com> wrote:
>
>>I can't believe that they will not offer the WM5.0 upgrade for the Axim
>>X30h. It is definitely not a hardware compatible decision...this is based
>>on pure greed. The decision may result in a certain spike in short-term
>>sales for those who can afford to upgrade hardware after owning it for 3
>>months, but the rest of us will feel spurned and will buy anything but
>>Dell
>>the next time we need PDAs, printers, computers, monitors, LCD TVs, etc.
>>
>
> People don't seem to realise that it actually may be due to hardware
> limitations that 'older' PPC such as the X30h are unable to be
> upgraded to WM5.0
>
> One of the new features of WM5.0 is a radical change in memory
> management - using ROM for program storage, and RAM purely for running
> programs. The X50V has 128MB ROM, but I presume that the X30H only
> has 64MB ROM, which would leave no room to store programs (except for
> memory cards I suppose).
>
> See this article:
>
> http://www.brighthand.com/article/Persistent_Memory_Sto...
>
June 27, 2005 10:03:43 AM

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Jeff Daly <jeff @ dalydose . com> wrote:
> Jason - the low end X50 has the same ROM as the x30.

?
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