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Stalker coming, do you care?

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Was it worth the Hype?

Total: 45 votes

  • Yes !!
  • 38 %
  • No !!
  • 9 %
  • There was Hype, what''s Stalker ?
  • 43 %
  • No opinion.
  • 12 %
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2007 9:44:42 PM

So as Stalker approaches (for March launch) and we see more trailers and gameplay video, the highly anticipated and overhyped game to me doesn't look much better/different than HL2, actually looks like an expansion pack even;

http://www.stalker-portal.ru/list-c-gsc.html

Cut scenes look great but gameplay footage looks like HL2, and the outdoors looks more like Morrowind than Oblivion level graphics/environments.

Let's hope that like Gamespot say it's got good AI;

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/stalker/news.html?sid...

But even still will it be enough to put it in the class of even FartCry for combination of visual & AI, without mentioning that Crysis is only a few months behind this title.

I have to say, after initial awesome buzz 2+ years ago, I really just don't care much anymore after seeing little advancement from what we saw in 2004;
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/480/480467/vids_1.html

Also, I wonder if they changed the name from "Oblivion Lost" due to the success of ElderScrolls IV: Oblivion.

More about : stalker coming care

February 11, 2007 10:11:44 PM

I have totally been waiting on Stalker which is supposed to be released on my birthday even so I take that as an omen I must get it. :)  Seriously though, I have researched a little on the stalker thing before (I knew about the game) and its a horrible event that this game is based around. Heres a friggen great article on the whole Chernobyl catastrophes that happened.
Heres a VERY AWESOME read with some very awesome pictures. http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chapter1.html CHERNOBYLE nuclear disaster where Stalker is supposed to be based in.

Also Google earth is another way to see all the stuff this nice young lady talks about and you can see from space the stuff she is talking about. Very intriguing but the first time I read this article and used google earth, the reality hit me and kinda messed me up for a few days. I'm ok now and the voices are gone hehe :)  It really truly is a super great article and I highly recommend people to read this and look it up on googster before playing the game. Or at least for myself I'm glad I understand it better. :) 

The google earth link. You can see the ferris wheel from space also which you will see the pix in that article.

Here is a link for google earth. http://www.jjman.org/modules/nsections/images/ChernobyleUkraine.kmz

So I guess the main question that was asked,.....Yes I am very looking forward to this game indeed. I hope I did not hijack this thread to much with this information it was just that this information is the MAIN reason I even know much about the up and coming game and well worth the read and look. :)  hehe
February 11, 2007 10:25:39 PM

The AI has been hugely watered down. It'll end up as just another game IMO.
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February 11, 2007 10:36:25 PM

It was announced in late 2001, thats roughly 5 1/2 years ago. I have to assume that the core components were rewritten multiple times and that the development team tried to incorporate too much. The original idea of the game and the original concept are probably largely different than what will be published.
The idea and concept were intriguing in 2001. In 2003 they were still interesting. In 2005 they weren´t anything special anymore and right now it´s like somone telling me that he´s eager to play Duke Nukem Whenever. The only thing that interests me about Stalker is to see what they made of it - i´ve heard it all already so i´m not even eager to play it. Eye Candy and Story-wise Farcry is probably more sophisticated. I just want to see it done.
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2007 10:36:38 PM

Yeah Chernobyl occurred while I was in JHS (grade 7) and I will remember it forever due to the fear it inspired in the days following, as well as compounding the Three Mile Island effect of the era.

And yeah that article is F'in kicka$$, I remember it from when the game first was getting press. Just a great read, and kinda spooky too because truely it is a ghost town, and yet they still have the reactors going. I remember when I first found out about the fact they were still producing power in the 90s, I thought WTF !?! No way!! And yet they still produced power there until 2001 !!

That article really just gives it a more realistic face from what before is more just images of the guys in raincoats dumping shovel loads of cement on the hole in the roof of the reactor. When I first read it there was no GoogleEarth nor the Sattelite google maps. Guess what I'm doing after this post :lol: 

No worries about the 'hijack' it's a light-hearted poll no worries. It's mainly for those of us who remember the R9700 vs FX5800 debates about Stalker. But I am more than happy to give threadspace to that article, it is a good read, and likely more enriching than the poll. :mrgreen:

I just wish the game came out when HL2 did, or now came out looking a little better, after all the buildup.

PS, imagine the reaction of the Russian gov't if we could see the disaster in the detail from GoogleEarth. At the time that would've been pretty enlightening, and really likely would've accelerated some of the actions instead of keeping everything so secret.
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2007 10:43:13 PM

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Eye Candy and Story-wise Farcry is probably more sophisticated. I just want to see it done.


Agreed, that was my sentiment pretty much. I was hoping they had improved upon it since we last saw it in 2004 when I was wondering how the R9600 would handle it, but seems like it was just a question of finishing it from that development point, nothing new. At the time is was like 'wow', but now especially sue to FartCry, it may have a tough time.
February 11, 2007 10:47:28 PM

I think this game is going 2 b perfect for a lonely afternoon when there is a thunderstorm outside. It would beef up the atmosphere no end. 8O

I guess I'm a sucker for these kind of games, and the fact that this game has some basis in reality (sort of) makes all the more immersive. One thing I've learned about games, and I've been a gamer for 25 years so I think I know the ropes, is that graphics don't make the game. I've played games on the ZX Spectrum that were more immersive than some of the crap that's coming out today. 3D cards, surround sound etc definitely help set the atmosphere, but it's the gameplay and the game characters that draw you in in the first place. I hope game developers keep that in mind and it's the reason I will never buy an EA product until they clean up their act (except for maybe Spore, but I'll still wait and see).
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2007 10:47:41 PM

never heard of stalker :oops: 

but i am goin to check your links right after this post.

edit; nevermind i have hear fo it.
and am ready to try it :lol: 
February 11, 2007 11:29:29 PM

Quote:
That article really just gives it a more realistic face from what before is more just images of the guys in raincoats dumping shovel loads of cement on the hole in the roof of the reactor. When I first read it there was no GoogleEarth nor the Sattelite google maps. Guess what I'm doing after this post :lol: 

No worries about the 'hijack' it's a light-hearted poll no worries. It's mainly for those of us who remember the R9700 vs FX5800 debates about Stalker. But I am more than happy to give threadspace to that article, it is a good read, and likely more enriching than the poll. :mrgreen:

PS, imagine the reaction of the Russian gov't if we could see the disaster in the detail from GoogleEarth. At the time that would've been pretty enlightening, and really likely would've accelerated some of the actions instead of keeping everything so secret.


I was in high school and I never paid any attention to the disaster. NOT that I didn't just care but it never effected me until a few years ago when I "read" that article and realized what kind of catastrophe it really was.

Whats cool about that article and google earth is you can look at where she took the pix and see what building she took the pix from. THe barges that are in the river from the pix she took are still there. It would have been a trip to have seen the disaster from google earth when it happened. (Not a good trip btw) It probably would have effected the world "ALLOT" more and been more profound as to how bad it really was there.
February 12, 2007 9:33:18 AM

That game is very fascinating mainly because it borrows real life scenery recognisable from all the material that has been shown about the Chernobyl catastrophy on TV and combines it with the plot of Strugatskies' short novel / Tarkovsky's movie (that is some hardcore/classic Soviet science fiction, all true scifi fans are probably familiar with those titles).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_Picnic
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079944/


By the way, I've read that there will be a DX 8.1 and a DX 9.0 version of the game. They recommend an Athlon X2 4800+ with 256mb Gforce 7900 for the DX 9.0 and Athlon XP 2500 with 128mb Gforce 6600 for the DX 8.1. Does anyone know what the game will look like in DX 8.1? Apparently the AI will consume a lot of CPU power since there will be a lot of things happening in the Zone all by themselves without any influence on player's behalf.


Any ideas what the letters S.T.A.L.K.E.R stand for? On the game site it says that the meaning of the acronym will be revealed during the game. I think it could be..... Specialised Trained Armed Loyal Koala Emergency Rescuers.... 8O
February 12, 2007 9:56:46 AM

Back in 2002 when I first heard about it, it sounded like an amazing game, but it's been 4 years since then and I've lost interest in it.
February 12, 2007 10:10:16 AM

the game has delveloped ALOT since then!
ive been an active member of the developer forums and some of the new movies and such are brilliant,
some of the features such as sleeping when you choose (its now part of the story, they had losts of problems implementing it) and vehicles were taken out,
but the majority of the WOW features are there,

The graphics cant be compared with far cry because the game is supposed to look dark and dingy, not lush like far cry!

check out www.oblivion-lost.de thats the best place to look for info and latest screens!
February 12, 2007 10:47:59 AM

Quote:
Eye Candy and Story-wise Farcry is probably more sophisticated. I just want to see it done.


Agreed, that was my sentiment pretty much. I was hoping they had improved upon it since we last saw it in 2004 when I was wondering how the R9600 would handle it, but seems like it was just a question of finishing it from that development point, nothing new. At the time is was like 'wow', but now especially sue to FartCry, it may have a tough time.

Exactly. The problem with Stalker is the long development phase. It was announced 2001 and to be released somewhere 2003. If it came out 2004 that would´ve been no problem, but as it is the core components had to be rewritten multiple times and not to make it a leading product, but just to keep up with the market. I´ve no problem with a game that takes 5 years to finish, if they planned it on a four or five year skale. What we will get now is a neat idea with lots of 2003 patchwork. :lol: 
February 12, 2007 12:34:41 PM

Its a cut down version of the Duke Nukem Forever saga, fewer and fewer people are that interested any more.

Crysis, UT2007 etc those are set to be the games of 2007 in the FPS arena.

They are really kind to release a DX 8.1 version!!! WTF. How about a DX 10 version!!! Will it work ok on CGA??? LOL

Not fussed now, was a great idea at the time 5 years ago or so.

Maybe I'll take a look when it reaches the £3.99 budget stand.
February 12, 2007 12:59:17 PM

to definately know if it's worth the hype, playing it first would be the ultimate deciding factor.
however, thus far, i think it looks quite promising based on the gameplay trailers that i've seen. e.g http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1246
February 12, 2007 12:59:50 PM

nice story about tsjernobil, its weird to see how it all looks after 20 years.
February 12, 2007 1:35:59 PM

Looks awesome butits still hype till its on my HDD so no opinion as of yet

i have been looking forward to this for ages so much that i even bought the so called Spin off Boiling point(which was the buggiest game ive ever played)which whilst theoritcally very good was never quite there with the execution i hope this does fall under the same trap

oh and ive had it on Pre order since the limited edition version came availible

so excited yes
worth the hype cant say yet
February 12, 2007 2:31:22 PM

It remains to be seen whether or not the game will stand out in any way from others of the genre. Graphics don't make or break a game but are nice to have. I hate to hear the AI has been toned down but then I wasn't that impressed with the much lauded FarCry AI either.

I am looking forward to it in the sense it might bring something different to the table whether it be gameplay or merely a different settings. Variety is good.

As for the Links from JJMan. Good read, very sobering. Reminds me of a few movies I've seen that apparently were well done as they had the same feel as those pictures. The big difference, they were movies, this is real. It really has a more profound affect on you when you know its actually something people lived through.
February 12, 2007 3:39:52 PM

As for me, I'll give it a chance...

Best case scenario, it's got the open ended yet story-driven flavor of Oblivion, with guns...

Worst case: it'll have too little direction to keep the player interested.

Deserves a shot though.
February 12, 2007 3:51:59 PM

If the atmosphere is good, which depends much on the quality of ambient and gun sound effects, if the gameplay is intriguing yet simple enough, if the engine is kind on my configuration yet pulls out sharp visuals (a miracle Half-Life 2 achieved on my old 9600SE, I simply couldn't believe how efficient the Source engine is), then it might qualify for my top 10, given the interesting theme.
a b U Graphics card
February 12, 2007 5:15:54 PM

I guess the real thing for me is with the original hype about it being very visual and cutting ede environments and weather systems that it's a bit of a let down compared to later environments.
I hope the AI has stayed strong, and like I said that will be the saving grace as Gamespot's article mention. I remember the 2004 demos where the player was walking along, poping out from behind an APC with the enemies onn the hill, and a desciption of the level of the AI involved. That was good, but it was also supposed to be the visuals that helped make the game immersive. I

I don't think it's just the shiny graphics that make a game, but they definitely help make it more/less immersive. Would FarCry, or HL2 be half the games they are without the good environments/graphics? Would a game like Morrowind or Oblivion be as immersive without the lush realistic environment?

While only playing it will tell whether the overall game is worth the hype, unfortunately the graphics portion to me is a bit of a let down, especially after all the hype in the 2003 era talking about it being better than D3. At this point, I'm sure the story and gameplay will be better (didn't like the shooting gallery conveyor belt feel to D3), but I don't think it will be as visually stunning as D3 or HL2 as it was sold. Despite the dark feel they were trying to achieve I think HL2 and D3 had their dark moments and did a good job of making them visually stunning too. And the scalability of D3 and HL2 was impressive.

I suspect the DX8.1 portion is to allow good reflections on moist ground and windows as well as good fog and smoke effects.
a b U Graphics card
February 12, 2007 5:19:56 PM

Well unlike some games I'll probably wait to see the reaction to stalker, if its gameplay gets massive kudos and the multi-player is well done, then I'll give it a shot. I judged FartCry on the demo, and should really have listened closer to the multi-player since that seems to have been the hidden gem I missed in FartCry. If Crysis gets a similar reaction then I'll likely get it, but the level of reaction will determine if it's for $49.99, 19.99 or 9.99 or a free demo for the weekend and off the system. :wink:
February 12, 2007 5:56:42 PM

Has anyone read Roadside Picnic? I really loved that book, and heard about it from the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. wiki.
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February 12, 2007 6:03:51 PM

S.T.A.L.K.E.R should have been out 2 years ago.. :| but what do u expect they r russians..
February 12, 2007 6:32:12 PM

Ouch.
-cm
February 12, 2007 6:55:17 PM

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The AI has been hugely watered down. It'll end up as just another game IMO.


Links to prove this statement? The only thing I've seen is an article on the impressive AI...as told by the developer. In reality, I don't think we know either way yet.
February 12, 2007 6:56:53 PM

I'll be one of the first to buy it and I may be a sucker but I'll let you all know!
February 12, 2007 7:14:32 PM

I think that article was written in 2003. I'm not sure, because I didn't check the link, buy the URL looked familiar and I was reading about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. yesterday.
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