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Hey everybody 8)

I upgraded recently to vista ultimate 64bit --
too bad that my ol' soundblaster live! 24bit drivers wont work on my new setup -- now normally I would just settle for my onboard audio but my sound card must be able to connect with these 2.1 digital speakers I have.. they are nice bostons 7500g's so I would hate to bag em.. so Im in the market for a new card. I do play games, listen to music - and even do some midi work too --

.. support for vista 64bit is limited so any advice on good card to buy is greatly appreciated.

-dub

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Well seeing as how Microsoft ditched DirectSound with Vista....GG

Reply to astrallite

I'm running the X-Fi Extreme Music with Vista 64 and all is well!

Reply to tech4808
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I'm with you on this. I have an Audigy 2 ZS and the performance is crap now compared to XP. The beta drivers from Creative aren't very good. The sound cuts out whenever the cpu gets really busy, so I don't know what to do.
I've also been thinking of just buying a new card, but what works with Vista/Open AL?

Reply to Human1

Whatever you do, do not buy another creative card. If this is what they call support, they do not deserve your business.

Reply to bridonca

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Whatever you do, do not buy another creative card. If this is what they call support, they do not deserve your business.



Agreed. I mean c'mon, people! It's been months now!
Everybody released Vista drivers for almost everything...
Like, they have one man who's doing Vista support, only on weekeends? WTF?
None of my games recognize EAX, it's unsupported in beta drivers....
This is really NOT serious business...
GRRRRRRRR.....

Reply to TheProfiler
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No kidding! This is teh suck.
I'd gladly buy another sound card, but I don't know of any others that work better than what I've got with Vista. I'm open to suggestions. It is tax season and all here in the US. :D

Reply to Human1
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I completly agree with the driver issue. They have had months to finalize drivers now and they simply do not care. I won't buy another sound card from creative again even if they do eventually come out with working drivers for my Audigy 2 ZS!! I wonder if that card from Auzentech (sp?) works well with Vista or maybe that new card from Razor? I am going to install Vista on my Lappie because it has pretty standard hardware that should be easily supported. Later when more drivers are out I will try putting it on my desktop.
Summary: Creative is suck'in on this one!

Reply to kona
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my sound blaster live just works with vista generic drivers, bad sound, micrphone doesnt work..... i cant record "what im hearing..." CREATIVE HAS LEFT ME ON ROAD SIDE AND I WILL REMEMBER THIS, I WOULD REALLY HAD BOUGHT A NEW CARD FROM CREATIVE TO HAVE A BETTER ONE, BUT AFTER THAT IM NOT BUYING CREATIVE

Reply to mayouuu
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Audigy 4 here and I'm using the BETA drivers too... So far DDO and WOW are working OK, but like others there are little issues here and there.

Reply to maxxum
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KXdrivers anyone?

I use a creative sound blaster live 5.1 in vista ultimate.
Everything works perfect, even the microphone is recognised (with the right settings in the kx mixer).

It maybe is an idea?

Reply to FeareX

:D There was time when putting in C Media card right from box had poor driver dialogue box appear "no C media chip supported on sound board." In spite of being disc that came with board.

This happened for years or even decade with plenty of there sound cards models, so they are really bad people, who know dumb people will buy theiir product witrh no clue, even after having experience, it just happens again & again.

VISTA is not audio ready at all, XP runs in system & plenty of audio, Vista in same exact system just pops, & blows out.

Vista is media weakling, period. Reason games don't play is whole shebang would just blow out, making returns common. People whom claim to have systems that work fine are trying to decieve children into plunking down thousands of dollars & being extremely disappointed with no recourse & certainly own no such product themselves. Like DOPE dealers who tell you joys of some disabling potent.

VISTA is worth less than NOTHING. 64 bit is much worse than 32 bit, in fact 64 bit is unuseable.

Signed:PYHYSICIAN THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK M.D.

Reply to thomasxstewart
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Well your putting it really negative now :lol:

Vista isnt a bad OS, its just getting started so you can expect some things not to work properly.

But with the KXdriver i dont hear difference between vista and xp. Only in games, when the CPU is busy in BF2142 the voices start to sound choppy... But putting sound quality to medium resolves that.

Reply to FeareX
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From just reading a bunch of online stuff across the web, the 64-bit version of Vista has a lot of driver problems. Some people say everything works great but even a lot of people in these forums and forums for some online games I play are having major issues with Vista 64bit that they are not having with the 32 bit version of vista.

Reply to kcrush
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The 64-bit support hasnt improved since the 64bit xp version

At least... not yet

Reply to FeareX
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its not creatives fault its M$'s they basically decided to remove support for hardware accelerated sound cards, its no different than M$ deciding to ditch DX9/DX10 and have everyone use the kinda crappy driver thats used when the OS is in safe mode

I think creative are doing a great job in overcoming M$'s extremely bad decision to drop directsound and though the drivers may be causing issues they will be solved soon

Reply to lmimmfn

I think what everyone is missing is that Vista is trying to take things to the 'next' level. That and make certain things standard.

Direct3D sound is out the window. So now, everyone has to work with OpenAI.

Most new games use OpenAI so it is not an issue.

As for creative... yeah they may be running into problems, but at least their drivers work (for some, not so well for others), but they do get sound! As well, they are trying to accomidate Direct3d using their Alchemy project... which in my opinion is very worthy of a company who is trying to support their products for a new operating system.

Things have gotten even more complicated now then even when XP was released. Everyone remember the problems they had trying to install XP for the first time?

The X-Fi cards have a lot of new technology built into them. But it was built around XP... so it is going to take time for the support for Vista. But it will be here, the question is when?

Reply to tech4808

having purchased an Xfi card around 1 or 2 months ago will make a lot of ppl (like me lol) really sad...

in fact this kind of things really make you get away from a brand almost forever...

too bad nvidia dropped the soundstorm...

Reply to holy_cow

I wouldn't be too sad yet... although some people are having problems with the X-Fi's... there are just as many people that have it working! You just don't hear from the people that do!

Reply to tech4808
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Have youtried loading your older drivers in compatability mode? Worked for my audigy before creative had vista drivers...

However, probably best to get a new card as creative's web site states that live is not planned to have vista support.

my 2p

Reply to croc

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However, probably best to get a new card as creative's web site states that live is not planned to have vista support.


He has Live 24 bit, this is apparently supported

Reply to uncle_ben

I have the X-FI Xtreme and I run both the 32 and 64bit Vista. I don't seem to be having the sound problems that others are having either. Maybe I'm not turning something on or off that they are. So far, the sounds works fine for me. The games I've played under Vista32 and 64 are FEAR and Fear XP, HL2:EP1, BF1942, 2 and 2142, Far Cry, Counter-Strike 1.6, Warcraft 3 and about 20 mins of Doom3

On some games like FEAR the EAX stuff is disabled, which is expected under Vista.

Granted I would expect Creative to have "official" drivers out now, but come on, Vista hasn't been release to the public for more than 30 days yet, so screaming about perfect drivers at this point is kinda silly. And look at the nVidia woes, in which some dude is trying to start a class action suit.

On a side note, the girlfriend is using on-board AC97 sound card, Though she only plays the SIMS2, But she doesn't have any problems with sound Vista32, if that helps

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