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I just built my first Custom PC and im having random lockups when playing Rainbow Six Vegas, F.E.A.R. etc. When i hit the reset switch and it reboots i goto the BIOS and check the cpu temp its usually about 60-65 celsius 8O 8O 8O . i KNOW this is too hot. Anyone got any suggestions? :?: :?:

Mobo: ECS RX-480-A (1.0)
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego
RAM: 1 GB of PNY Optima DDR 400
GPU: XFX 7900 GS <-- (idles about 58 celsius)
Hdd: Maxtor 200 GB , Seagate 160 GB
PS: Thermaltake 430W

i have 2 case fans running at 3200 rpm and 2 fans on the power supply and the heatsink fan

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Are u using the stock cooler or aftermarket. If you have installed an aftermarket cooler, did you put any thermalpaste??
Also in both situations check if the cooler sits properly on the cpu.

Reply to airoh69

using the stock cooler. and yes it sits properly on the cpu

Reply to LeCastor
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are you sure about that? even under stock cooler it never got that high with me. take off the cooler and re set it on the processor and see if anything changed. Personally I have a Artic freezer 64 on my AMD X2 4200 and my cpu never gets above 33 degrees. It was only about 20$ or so......You might want to look into that. However the stock cooler shouldn't be running that hot.

Reply to irrsh

yeah. im sure. but i'll go re set the heatsink and see what happens. ill post and let you know.
thanks.

Reply to LeCastor

ok... reset the heatsink. no major drop in temp its idling at 49 now...

Reply to LeCastor
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was there a pre applied thermal paste patch or whatever in the world you call it? You should try cleaning it off and get yourself some artic silver if you don't want to get a new CPU fan.

Reply to irrsh

yeah. that cheap pre applied thermal crap. that they call thermal paste and expect to cool your processor. haha. yeah right.

yeah im on www.newegg.com checkin out new heatsinks and thermal paste. i might just get some paste and try that first and if that doesnt work ill have to get a new heatsink.

Reply to LeCastor
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Try the paste and then you should really look into the artic freezer....because it is silent Cheap and Extremely good. My processor idles around 25 degrees and is like 33-36 under load. highly recommended!

Reply to irrsh

sweet thanks for the help. ill do that. if the paste doesnt work i will definitely be getting the arctic freezer. thanks

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Awesome you will like it!

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Interestingly though, 60-65 isn't enough to really hang your comp. My hottest comp runs 72ish 24/7 (full load due to SETI), and has been doing so for over 2 years non stop, no stability issues. I guess it must be getting even higher in the games, you just can't see how high cause by the time you restart its already cooled perhaps?

Reply to Fedor

Well, evidently reseating the heatsink DID help because. now when im playing games i can Alt Tab and look at my temps and it never goes over 60 celsius. it drops down to 54 when i exit the game i played rainbow six vegas for about 45 minutes. my gpu was 64 degrees and my cpu was 60. the whole entire time and i play it maxed out. so i guess reseating must have helped

Reply to LeCastor

Ok so i did some looking around and evidently the motherboard i purchased is known for having faulty temperature sensors. Soo my processor might not even be running that hot.

Reply to LeCastor
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My MSI's CPU temp reports have changed drastically over the span of several updates. Up and down by 10 degrees sometimes. So if you aren't worried, maybe you could flash your BIOS.
This should work:
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/D [...] 47&LanID=8

But as you say, perhaps the problem has subsided! But, if lets say the temp sensor was wrong, why would that still cause hangs?

Reply to Fedor

maybe i need to just update the BIOS. ill do that and let you know

Reply to LeCastor
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I would be interested to see if that helps.....so let us know!

Reply to irrsh

Its still showing 50-55 degrees idle.

Reply to LeCastor
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Ok, so if we assume that your heatsink is fine, then the only thing I can think of is perhaps bad case airflow? Like for example, I have 2 8cm intake fans in my case, but the first thing that air does is encounter 5 harddrives, so its already warm by the time it gets to the CPU, which is the problem in my case.

Is it still locking up by the way? Have you tried to push it hard? Oh and like the previous advice said, getting some good thermal compound is a good idea, like Arctic Silver 5, or if you're too worried that it conducts electricity, the Arctic Silver Ceramique is a safe choice too.
For reference:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/products.htm

Considering that's only a few dollars, it's also a painless thing to try.

Reply to Fedor

i pushed it really hard with some benchmarking software and it only got up to 61 so im assuming its ok but it depends on what i use to view the temperature. Lavalys said 61 Speedfan said 49 yeah im gonna try the arctic paste the air my case fans put out is warm but not hot. the side panel fan puts out cool air even, im seriously starting to think its just faulty sensors

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That's very possible seeing as how you said its a known issue for the board. Just two things then:
1) I'd still get quality thermal paste and use it. Low cost, low hassle, significant results (even in the peace of mind department)
2) I think re-seating really help too. Faulty sensors or not, I'm pretty sure it was _actually_ overheating before, cause otherwise it wouldn't have locked up just due to a bad temp reading I wouldn't think.

Reply to Fedor

well thanks for the tips. i'll definitely be ordering some of the paste. and if that doesnt help im just going to assume its the motherboards fault and go on. ill be getting an SLi board later this year anyway i only got this one to hold me over til AMD brought out quad core desktop processor and drove down the price of the other processors on the market. it just really worried me when i saw those high temps. and if i have problems with the new mobo ill definitely come back here with my problems haha you guys have been great. thanks a lot. :D

Reply to LeCastor

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well thanks for the tips. i'll definitely be ordering some of the paste. and if that doesnt help im just going to assume its the motherboards fault and go on. ill be getting an SLi board later this year anyway i only got this one to hold me over til AMD brought out quad core desktop processor and drove down the price of the other processors on the market. it just really worried me when i saw those high temps. and if i have problems with the new mobo ill definitely come back here with my problems haha you guys have been great. thanks a lot. :D



Just a wild thought, but what VCore are you running? (If I missed this detail in reading the thread, my apologies.) Maybe the board is automatically overvolting your CPU (to a shockingly high degree, too, it seems).

Reply to txtmstrjoe

Vcore?
The only core i know of is the CPU Core and thats a San Diego.
Lavalys Says the voltage to my CPU is 1.4 thats only .5 over what the specs says it was (1.35)

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VCore is the voltage of the core. So 1.4 is what he was asking. Is it stable? Or does it fluctuate?

Reply to Fedor

Stable no fluctuation at all

... EDIT: i take back the no fluctation statement.
its jumping between 1.2, 1.3 , and 1.4 volts now....

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Stable no fluctuation at all

... EDIT: i take back the no fluctation statement.
its jumping between 1.2, 1.3 , and 1.4 volts now....



Excessive VCore causes a jump in temperature.

It seems, though, that that's not what's causing your high temperatures. I would suggest that you have bad IHS-to-HSF contact, which would be caused by a warped IHS. You might need to lap your IHS. (Just a guess.)

Reply to txtmstrjoe
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Surely it jumping between 1.2-1.4v is also a problem?

Reply to Fedor

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Surely it jumping between 1.2-1.4v is also a problem?



It might be a problem (or it could simply be a problem with the board's sensors), but I don't think it's directly related to the elevated CPU temperatures.

Of course, I'm no expert. :D

Reply to txtmstrjoe

I have the same issue. My 3200 system I just put together tops out at 60C but idles at 36. I am 100% sure that it's seated correctly and I used silver compound.

Reply to AdamBomb42

i just finished an hour of F.E.A.R. and when i exited my CPU was 64.... im seriously starting to get worried about this i hope they ship that thermal compound soon

Reply to LeCastor

i dont know if this has anything to do with anything. but my CPU Diode? is 44 Degrees idle. that is. accordng to lavalys

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i dont know if this has anything to do with anything. but my CPU Diode? is 44 Degrees idle. that is. accordng to lavalys



That's the internal sensor diode reading, which is accurate (that is, not corrected by software). It's a high idle temperature, for sure.

There's a chance that the sensor could be calibrated improperly, which could account for the high reading.

Lots of variables in this puzzle, there are.

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But generally speaking, afaik those thermal pads that come pre applied with stock heatsinks aren't meant to be re-used. Like I remember reading about those dreaded scorching hot Prescott CPUs, I think tomshardware realised that after re-seating their heatsink, with the old thermal pad, the benchmarks were producing worse and worse results. This was of course, because the CPU was throttling itself more and more as it got hotter and hotter. Whereas this didnt happen on the first install of the heatsink. So long story short, the pads seriously lost their effectiveness when re-applied.

Reply to Fedor

well thats gay. i hope my arctic silver gets here soon.

Reply to LeCastor

heres an interesting thought.
im dual booting windows xp and windows vista until vista sp1 comes out and it will work with all my games.
anyway. windows xp is what ive been basing my temperature readings on so far. i loaded vista up a few minutes ago and my temperature readings in vista are about 10 degrees cooler.
just thought you'd like to know.

Reply to LeCastor
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That's really quite weird, esp if you are using the same software! But I guess get the thermal paste anyway, and as long as the pc isnt crashing anymore, then thats good enough, heh.

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