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February 13, 2007 7:35:53 PM

This is probablya dumb question, but...... I see "Socket A" and "Socket 754" processors advertised together, in the same list, as if they are interchangeable. Are they? Can I put a Socket 754 processor into a Socket A motherboard? Thanks,

Don-B
February 13, 2007 7:53:47 PM

no you cant they have a different number of pins under the cpus and on the motherboards

they also use different technologies like 754 uses hypertransport and socket A is very old and use conventional FSB system
February 13, 2007 8:07:18 PM

Yeah, there not interchangeable, socket A has 453 pins and socket 754 has, well, 754.
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February 13, 2007 8:21:20 PM

You can try the following adapter tool, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

February 13, 2007 8:22:59 PM

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This is probablya dumb question, but...... I see "Socket A" and "Socket 754" processors advertised together, in the same list, as if they are interchangeable. Are they? Can I put a Socket 754 processor into a Socket A motherboard? Thanks,

Don-B

Socket A is 462 pins, Socket 754, obviously 754 pins. the 754 came out after Socket A. I think there were a few motherboards, like ASRock, that were crossover capable with some sort of adapter, but I can say I never physically saw one. That's as close as they came to "the same motherboard".
February 13, 2007 8:23:12 PM

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Yeah, there not interchangeable, socket A has 453 pins and socket 754 has, well, 754.


I have it from a reliable source that the extra 301 pins are optional and can be removed with nail clippers with no damage to the CPU's functions. :lol: 
February 13, 2007 8:24:58 PM

OK, so where do I get one of them adapters???? Thanks everyone, I was right, it was a dumb question!!

Don-B
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February 13, 2007 8:25:10 PM

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no you cant they have a different number of pins under the cpus and on the motherboards

they also use different technologies like 754 uses hypertransport and socket A is very old and use conventional FSB system


462 vs 754 pins ;) 
February 13, 2007 8:36:21 PM

Gee, this thread has turned out to be great fun :D  . Dead weight hammer, clippers, chissels......by the way, does anyone have a line on a blow torch and solder for the extra pins?
February 13, 2007 8:41:23 PM

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You can try the following adapter tool, but I wouldn't hold my breath.



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February 13, 2007 8:41:33 PM

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Gee, this thread has turned out to be great fun :D  . Dead weight hammer, clippers, chissels......by the way, does anyone have a line on a blow torch and solder for the extra pins?


No need. Just use Krazy Glue. :lol: 
February 13, 2007 8:54:32 PM

Actually there was (and still is) and converter card to use Socket 754 in any Socket A motherboard.


LSC (or Legacy Support Chip)

However, It required a 1kw PSU, and possibly a hammer.


Humm...
February 13, 2007 9:25:14 PM

Usually, processors designed for one socket won't work in another.
February 13, 2007 10:04:45 PM

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OK, so where do I get one of them adapters???? Thanks everyone, I was right, it was a dumb question!!

Don-B


Why would you even TRY to update one obsolete system for another obsolete system? It would be cheaper to get a Celeron D for $60 and a compatible motherboard for somewhere around the same price. You'd have a setup that FLIES compared to using Socket A. Most of your stuff would probably make the switch to boot!
February 13, 2007 10:08:59 PM

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Gee, this thread has turned out to be great fun :D  . Dead weight hammer, clippers, chissels......by the way, does anyone have a line on a blow torch and solder for the extra pins?


No need. Just use Krazy Glue. :lol: 

I prefer using a pneumatic brad nailer set at 120 psi....just to make sure they stick :wink:
February 13, 2007 10:12:32 PM

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You can try the following adapter tool, but I wouldn't hold my breath.


Holy sh!t; what a laughter.....
....though, looks a quite universal tool; ca I use it to replace my 4200+ with an XE6800?! :lol: 
February 13, 2007 10:13:29 PM

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This is probablya dumb question, but...... I see "Socket A" and "Socket 754" processors advertised together, in the same list, as if they are interchangeable. Are they? Can I put a Socket 754 processor into a Socket A motherboard? Thanks,

Don-B

Socket A is 462 pins, Socket 754, obviously 754 pins. the 754 came out after Socket A. I think there were a few motherboards, like ASRock, that were crossover capable with some sort of adapter, but I can say I never physically saw one. That's as close as they came to "the same motherboard".

See....I'm not crazy! :tongue: (shut up Capt... I can hear you giggling)


http://www.ocworkbench.com/2004/asrock/k7upgrade-880/g1...

Click here to view the "Land of the Obsolete"
February 13, 2007 10:25:49 PM

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This is probablya dumb question, but...... I see "Socket A" and "Socket 754" processors advertised together, in the same list, as if they are interchangeable. Are they? Can I put a Socket 754 processor into a Socket A motherboard? Thanks,

Don-B

Socket A is 462 pins, Socket 754, obviously 754 pins. the 754 came out after Socket A. I think there were a few motherboards, like ASRock, that were crossover capable with some sort of adapter, but I can say I never physically saw one. That's as close as they came to "the same motherboard".

See....I'm not crazy! :tongue: (shut up Capt... I can hear you giggling)


http://www.ocworkbench.com/2004/asrock/k7upgrade-880/g1...

Click here to view the "Land of the Obsolete"
Yes, Asrock is known for these adapters; it also had some (more reasonable) S754 to S939 adapters. Though, that above is obviously, almost an entire motherboard and almost equally priced, so it's more or less stupid.
The 754/939 was more straightforward; just a small interface that sit on the S754 to accommodate the 939 CPU above.
February 13, 2007 10:27:29 PM

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You can try the following adapter tool, but I wouldn't hold my breath.


Holy sh!t; what a laughter.....
....though, looks a quite universal tool; ca I use it to replace my 4200+ with an XE6800?! :lol: 

actually, for 4200+ to x6800 operation you need to use this (it's quicker and safer)

February 13, 2007 10:34:35 PM

Well, a friend of mine also advised me to use these as PGA to LGA adapter:
February 13, 2007 10:40:43 PM

I did that before.
this is me attaching the adapters

February 13, 2007 10:43:57 PM

:lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
Well, assembling PCs is definitely e men's job!
February 13, 2007 10:51:12 PM

...and this is me mounting the heatsink:
February 13, 2007 10:53:24 PM

Whoooooooooooa. Nice water cooling you have there!!
February 13, 2007 11:14:22 PM

At the risk of posting again and keeping this thread alive :(  , I just wanted to replace a Duron-1100 (pretty sure it's a Duron) with something a little faster. The rest of the box was upgraded a while ago; unfortunately ended up with a socket A motherboard.

The best I could find without gutting the thing was this:

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=AXDA2200DKV3C-N...

AMD Athlon XP 2200+ 266MHz 256KB Socket A Processor for $43.99

....worth considering, or not. I wasn't looking for super-box, just something to do some experimenting.

Don-B
February 13, 2007 11:26:21 PM

I might be wrong, but I think there is a chipset incompatibility between Athlon XP's and Duron's. You could try an Athlon Thunderbird, though.
February 13, 2007 11:37:35 PM

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At the risk of posting again and keeping this thread alive :(  , I just wanted to replace a Duron-1100 (pretty sure it's a Duron) with something a little faster. The rest of the box was upgraded a while ago; unfortunately ended up with a socket A motherboard.

The best I could find without gutting the thing was this:

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=AXDA2200DKV3C-N...

AMD Athlon XP 2200+ 266MHz 256KB Socket A Processor for $43.99

....worth considering, or not. I wasn't looking for super-box, just something to do some experimenting.

Don-B


use CPU-Z or go to www.pcpitstop.com to identify your motherboard. I think the Duron was a 200 mhz processor and the 2200 is 266 mhz. See if your motherboard will support 266 mhz fsb. there may be a BIOS upgrade that'll let it happen.
February 14, 2007 12:09:58 AM

There is no incompatibility with Athlon XP's and Durons assuming that the motherboard supports the core on the Athlon XP. Personally though I would recommend at least saving some money and getting a socket 939 motherboard and CPU as it should be compatible with all of your current components assuming you get one with AGP not PCIe. Any other upgrades would require almost all components be replaced (CPU, mobo, PSU, RAM, and video).
February 14, 2007 4:41:01 AM

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I prefer using a pneumatic brad nailer set at 120 psi....just to make sure they stick :wink:


If you mix in very fine metal shavings in the Krazy Glue you'll find that they'll conduct even if the fit isn't perfect.

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See....I'm not crazy! :tongue: (shut up Capt... I can hear you giggling)


I didn't say anything...

February 14, 2007 5:50:09 AM

I think my friend had a socket 462 abit NF7-s motherboard, he used a socket A sempron in it. i don't think this i what you were asking about but if it was about upgrading the cpu then look for the 462 semprons not the 754.
February 14, 2007 6:42:48 AM

The Sempron brand currently covers 3 chips categories:
- Socket A Athlon XPs have been rebranded Sempron when the Athlon64 came out; the difference between a Sempron and an Athlon on a Socket A is... ink.
- 'current' Socket 754 Sempron64 are single-channel Athlon64 processors with reduced L2 cache. They overclock quite well (my 2600+, which is factory clocked at 1600 MHz, climbs to 2400 MHz with the stock cooler, with no noticeable increase in temperature and with default voltage).
- AM2 Sempron64 are AM2 Athlon64 with reduced L2 cache... but they should use dual channel and C'n'Q for the 1800 MHz+ models (model 1600 MHz may not use C'n'Q - overclocker's friend too?).Unfortunately the high DDR2 latency hits those CPUs quite hard.

Since AMD low-costs CPUs are usually made using completely different masks without artificially reducing performance, while at the same time performance on K7/K8 chips is not really L2 cache-dependant, Duron/Sempron processors are good value overclockers - provided your mobo allows good FSB/HT bus increases.
February 14, 2007 7:43:49 AM

Absolutely not.Socket A as it is reffered to is socket 462.There is no way,even with an adapter,which does not exist,will you ever get a socket 754 processor to fit in a socket A motherboard.LOL.Not gonna happen.Goodluck.

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February 14, 2007 10:12:50 AM

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At the risk of posting again and keeping this thread alive :(  , I just wanted to replace a Duron-1100 (pretty sure it's a Duron) with something a little faster. The rest of the box was upgraded a while ago; unfortunately ended up with a socket A motherboard.

The best I could find without gutting the thing was this:

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=AXDA2200DKV3C-N...

AMD Athlon XP 2200+ 266MHz 256KB Socket A Processor for $43.99

....worth considering, or not. I wasn't looking for super-box, just something to do some experimenting.

Don-B

also consider this:
S754 mombo
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-K8M8MV2
Sempron 2600+ for $27
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=SDA26BX_64
February 14, 2007 11:35:35 AM

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S754 mombo


usually I don't pick in orthography because sometimes I write with some errors (portuguese guy here!), but that mombo typo thing was funny :lol: 
February 14, 2007 1:00:11 PM

You want him to stop talking mombo jombo or what?
February 14, 2007 1:59:29 PM

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OK, so where do I get one of them adapters???? Thanks everyone, I was right, it was a dumb question!!

Don-B


It's not worth getting it. If your getting a 754 CPU then get a 754 motherboard.
February 14, 2007 2:45:31 PM

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OK, so where do I get one of them adapters???? Thanks everyone, I was right, it was a dumb question!!

Don-B


It's not worth getting it. If your getting a 754 CPU then get a 754 motherboard.

Check around. I'm sure there are lots of etailers with a few pallets of 754 motherboards gathering dust who would jump at the chance at getting your $20!
February 14, 2007 2:55:17 PM

no, i was just laughing at "mombo". sounds cool :lol: 
February 15, 2007 7:22:03 PM

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no, i was just laughing at "mombo". sounds cool :lol: 



Mombo gan danni jeinon gohdo shach gan nen fohndo gjebu.


Mombo is a real word.
And that phrase reads: Our grandfathers are the rulers of mother earth. our children are their gift of grace.
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February 19, 2007 12:10:57 AM

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...and this is me mounting the heatsink:


my god is that the intel reference cooler for the 10ghz P4?
February 19, 2007 9:05:05 AM

You got pretty near, actually it's the standard 9.0GHz P4 cooler; the 10GHz cooler is twice that tall :lol: 
February 19, 2007 10:08:19 AM

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You got pretty near, actually it's the standard 9.0GHz P4 cooler; the 10GHz cooler is twice that tall :lol: 


Well, according to Silicon Weekly they got their hands on a prototype K10 QFX, OC'd it to 5.64GHz and generated enough heat to melt a hole clear through the case!!!!
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February 22, 2007 12:55:39 AM

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You got pretty near, actually it's the standard 9.0GHz P4 cooler; the 10GHz cooler is twice that tall :lol: 


my bad :lol: 
November 2, 2009 10:57:22 PM

"The 754/939 was more straightforward; just a small interface that sit on the S754 to accommodate the 939 CPU above." -m25


where is this adapter? i would like to buy one to upgrade my amd athlon 64 3400+ to a amd athlon x2 but they have 754 pins and 939 pins respectively. I won't want to upgrade my motherboard becuase i dont have the money to upgrade all my parts at the moment.
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