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nVidia/ATI : Be honest and rate your bias...

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How biased are you?

Total: 228 votes

  • Shameless ATI fanboy
  • 9 %
  • Shameful ATI fanboy
  • 1 %
  • Quite sympathetic to ATI
  • 15 %
  • Slightly sympathetic to ATI
  • 17 %
  • Absolutely neutral, yes sir. Hum hum.
  • 24 %
  • Slightly sympathetic to nVidia
  • 15 %
  • Quite sympathetic to nVidia
  • 17 %
  • Shameful nVidia fanboy
  • 0 %
  • Shameless nVidia fanboy
  • 6 %
February 14, 2007 12:00:06 AM

Neutrality is a beautiful thing, but I'm sure everyone is much more sympathetic to a brand over the other, for both rational and completly irrelevant reasons.

Have owned 2 ATI cards in my life and entirely satisfied with both of them. No fanboy, I like facts better than opinions, but still quite sympathetic to ATI, from my own experience.
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a b Î Nvidia
February 14, 2007 12:57:09 AM

Based on my purchases I lean more towards ATI. But each time I decide to buy I weight the benefits between ATI and nVidia and what I need.

The first GPU I ever bought is the nVidia TNT2 which came with my PC; Pentium 166 MMX.

When I upgraded to a Pentium II 450 I bought the Radeon 7500 for price performance ratio.

Upgraded to Athlon XP-M 2800+ and bought GeForce 4200Ti.

The 4200Ti died in 6 months, bought the Radeon 9000Pro, 'cause I was low on cash.

Upgraded the 9000Pro to the 9800Pro because it was the best performing GPU when it came out.

Bought the AIW Radeon 9600 XT when I built my HTPC because all nVidia GeForce 6xxx series card paled in comparison when it came to single light gaming card with video capture capabilities.

Built a new PC around the C2D E6600. I wanted to buy the 7900GT because of it's performance and the fact that it uses less than 50% power than the Radeon X1900XT uses. Ultimately, I bought the X1900XT because I wanted HDR + AA while playing Oblivion. Couldn't wait for the 8800GTS to come out.

I expect to replace my current HTPC with a new one at the end of this year. I will most likely buy an nVidia card for it because their cards traditionally uses less power than ATI GPUs. I'll pair it up with a Haupaugge 250 capture card. Gaming will be done on my primary rig so the GPU will be either an entry level or mainstream GPU.
February 14, 2007 12:59:47 AM

Thanks for another flamewar :roll:
February 14, 2007 2:05:29 AM

I think this thread might become a flamewar,but if people just vote and optionally put their opinion without ranting or calling names,it would turned out fine :)  .Just hope/pray this forum won't become place for fanboys make wars :(  ...this forum is for enthusiast and the likes,and people looking for help.If people start flamewar over simple poll asking for simple opinion,that just shows their immaturity :evil:  no matter how old they are,but that's just my IMHO :wink:
February 14, 2007 2:29:30 AM

yeah this is a potential flamewar, damn the fan boy :x that starts it! :evil: 
February 14, 2007 2:30:26 AM

I lean towards nvidia. reason: Linux support.

however, if I were to buy a GPU for a gaming PC, and I had a specific amount of money, I would get the best performer for the price, regardless of ATI/nvidia.
February 14, 2007 2:31:02 AM

Partially sympathetic towards nvidia although my last two cards a X700Pro and a X1800XT 512mb have been ATi's obviously.

i think its because one of my first high end gpu's was the Nvidia Geforce 3 with 64mb of 'OMG' DDR ram...
February 14, 2007 2:39:28 AM

What a stupid fukking thread. I'm sure the n00bs here will make it a multi pager.... :roll:
February 14, 2007 2:43:55 AM

Can honestly say no bias one way or the other.

Video cards? - I just don't care.

Not a gamer.

Kinda used to like ATI, but the "All in Wonder" cards seem to have all gone away, so I just get a second card to have a TV tuner in the PC.

If it can play SimCity, run Vista premium, and drive two DVIs at 1920 X 1200... other than that... I just don't care.
February 14, 2007 2:48:16 AM

Our business computers have both products.

Because N is on my personal computer, and I am most familiar to N's settings and usage, I prefer N.

If my personal computer was loaded with A, I might prefer A.


For basic office computers I see no benefit or disadvantage of one over the other. So on a scale of 1-100, I would rate my N bias score as a 55. Not much of a bias, but it is still a bias.
February 14, 2007 2:53:25 AM

Through the years, I've bought plenty of both cards, so I don't think of myself either pro ATI or pro Nvidia. Now, if you had asked about the old VooDoo card, that would have been something else.
February 14, 2007 2:54:02 AM

oh i admit im ATI Fanboy

after that geforce 5xxxx series (hairdryers) and the fact that Nvida realse a driver once in a blue moon and you have to hunt down beta drivers for crap to work (8800's and Vista anyone?), i use ATI

now my laptop has a 7600Go in it and its a good card but PC is ATI

and that R600 is gonna be sexy :3


at anyrate 50 bucks says this turns into a flame war


>_> <_< quickly to the caves!
February 14, 2007 3:14:35 AM

Quote:
What a stupid fukking thread. I'm sure the n00bs here will make it a multi pager.... :roll:


Did you not get enough sleep last night?
February 14, 2007 3:15:20 AM

I don’t know why people use the word fan or fanboy so lightly :?
I hope this makes you think twice before calling yourself a fan boy 8O


A fan or supporter is someone who has an intense, occasionally overwhelming liking of a sporting club, person, group of persons, company, product, work of art, idea, or trend. Fans of a particular thing constitute its fanbase or fandom. They may start a fan club, hold fan conventions, create fanzines, write fan mail, or engage in similar activities.

In some cases, individual fans may become so obsessed with the objects of their infatuation that they become fanboys/fangirls. These fans engage in behaviors that are considered extreme or abnormal. This includes idolatry or other forms of worship, such as creating a personal shrine dedicated to the idol at one's home, and can sometimes extend to the point of the fans become stalkers.

Fanboy or fanboi is a term used to describe an individual (usually male, though the feminine version fangirl may be used for females) who is utterly devoted to a single fannish subject, or to a single point of view within that subject, often to the point where it is considered an obsession. Fanboys remain loyal to their particular obsession, disregarding any factors that differ from their point of view. They are also typically hateful to the opposing brand or competition of their obsession regardless of its merits or achievements.
February 14, 2007 3:18:03 AM

I am quite sympathetic to ATi. My first card was an ollldddd nVidia, but my first "performance chip" was ATi. On my second now.

But don't get me wrong. I nvidias G90 arch kicks a**, I'd go with them. Maybe. (only if it was like a, oh, 35-50% performance boost.) Besides, the outstanding mobo's, and special memory support has me already looking (slightly).
February 14, 2007 3:36:34 AM

I'm a bit partial to ATi. They have been leading nVidia in performance for the past 3 generations of cards (not counting 8800 series). But with the price of the 8600 Ultra being rumored around $179, ATi better have a good answer.
February 14, 2007 3:37:38 AM

I'll rather just say nothing about that...

I've had more than enough of both or put them in builds (Riva TNT's, 3 of them I think, GF4 MX 440, GF5200, 2 ATI 9200's, GF5700, GF6600, ATI X700, ATI X1300, GF7600 (currnetly) and an X1900XTX for my cousin).

There is more (the older stuff) but I won't go into that.
February 14, 2007 4:20:24 AM

I think i like nVidia a bit more than ATI.Dont know why , and i had more ATI cards than nVidia and my all time favorite was 9700 Pro.As i said i dont know why.
February 14, 2007 4:21:35 AM

Maybe you prefer green over red? :wink:
February 14, 2007 4:22:45 AM

owned 2 nvidia and 2 ATI, and honestly, after suffering a Geforce 2MX 400
and its horrible (my other one was a tnt2 ) bugs, and random studdering ( with agp )

made me get kinda biased towards ati, wich havent failed me yet ( RD9800 pro then to X800 GTO moded to X850XT )
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February 14, 2007 4:23:34 AM

I have bought excellent products from both and been happy with every purchase. I am completely graphics card agnostic. When it's time to buy, I look at reviews of the best available compare the benchmarks that matter to me (ie the games I like to play) and then buy from a reputable manufacturer. I don't care about bundles. Price, performance, manufacturer and warranty are the only things I am interested in.

Here's the cards I've owned or still own:
Hercules TNT
Hercules 3DProphet MX
VisionTek GeForce 3 Ti 200
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
ATI All-in-Wonder 9600 (AGP)
Diamond 9600XT (AGP)
BFG 6800GT OC (AGP)
ATI X1900XTX
XFX 7600GT XXX (AGP)

Nearly split down the middle. I still have 5 of them in various systems. When it comes time to hop on the DX10/Vista train, I will objectively look at both chipmakers offerings and buy whatever is best.

Really, buying because you are sympathetic to one company over the other is like betting on a sports team with your heart rather than your head, it's a waste of money. The very same can be said for CPU's. If I had built rig in in the sig in April rather than September, it would have been AMD (either an X2 or Opteron) cause at that time they were the best. As it turns out, Intel pulled their head out of their collective a$$es and gave us something to lust over.

I don't know how else to say it, being brand loyal is crazy, it flies in the face of logic.
February 14, 2007 4:35:57 AM

Quote:
I don't know how else to say it, being brand loyal is crazy, it flies in the face of logic.
Damn straight it does...
February 14, 2007 4:55:13 AM

I'm slightly partial to ATI, only because all of the ATI brand cards that I've bought have worked well for me. That's not to say that they've always had the best performance, because they have not.
I started ATI with their mach 32 chipset, and have worked my way to X1950 pro. I've also had experience with a very old cirrus logic video card, an S3 trident, and an old card that was called Orchid. I'm not sure that Orchid was the brand name or the chipset, it was very old.
February 14, 2007 5:28:13 AM

I lean towards nVidia but I've only had two cards (both nvidia but the 5200FX sucked!) in total so I can't really say one way or another.
February 14, 2007 5:57:02 AM

Lol I'm a shameless ATI fan boy, i can't help it i just love Ati. First card i had was an old 8500, then the crappy nvidia fx5200. after that got the beautiful 9800xt, performed so sweet until i changed over to PCI-express so now im stuck with a very painfully slow nvidia 6600 vanilla. joy. anyone have a cheap card better then mine they wanna sell or give to me?? lol. LONG LIVE ATI & R600!!!woot haha
February 14, 2007 6:18:08 AM

Personally, I re-evaluate every time, but I find myself leaning a bit toward ATI for two reasons:

Bad past experiences with Nvidia cards.

I really like the All in Wonder cards, and Nvidia provides no equivalent.

That being said, I have no problem recommending or buying Nvidia cards if they fit the situation (I.E. an 8800 for DX10)
February 14, 2007 6:26:39 AM

Quote:
I don't know how else to say it, being brand loyal is crazy, it flies in the face of logic.
Damn straight it does...

Super agreeance. And I like the way you said it even.
February 14, 2007 7:18:59 AM

I'd say I'm slightly biased towards Nvidia due to the fact I've had better luck with their chipsets over ATI's.

First video card I owned besides a diamond stealth 4meg was a 24meg geforce 2, ages ago... don't even remember the model, second was a geforece 2 mx400, geforce 4 mx440, geforce 2 ultra 64mb, radeon 9000 (hive cluster crash, went back to nvidia) fx5200, burned up, fx5700 ultra, fx5950, 6600gt, 6800xt, 9600 pro 256mb, x1300 512, and now an x1900gt (which currently has some minor minor artifacting, but I believe that's due to my 2 monitors being next to eachother, not sure.. quake 4 has horizontal refresh lines that start halfway down and go to the bottom of the screen, never had problems with my 6800xt. What's funny, is every ATI card I've ever used in any of my own systems has had small problems (minus the 9000 hive cluster crash in xp pro) that usually don't bother me, while all my nvidia's perform perfectly. Professionally recommend what fits in a customer's budget.
February 14, 2007 7:30:12 AM

me? i am in no way biased in either way. however, if i had to choose between a product that is pretty much the same eg, 1 or 2% difference in performance i would take the ATI hands down as i could use my old x1600 pro as a physics processor, like they demoed last year sumtime. However if i had to choose between the x1950 and the 8800 (excluding the fact i'd need a new PSU) id defiantly take the later.

I choose the best/better product, if i don't it is simply because i did not do my research :|
February 14, 2007 7:31:11 AM

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I don't know how else to say it, being brand loyal is crazy, it flies in the face of logic.
Damn straight it does...

Super agreeance. And I like the way you said it even.

Well its quite logical to gain a liking to a company or brand that has given you personally good products over time. Some ppl are ATI fanboys(myself inculded) because they got a bad nvidia card and don't like things about nvidia. Where as every time they use an ATI card is was good for them. Same for Nvidia fanboys.

The optimal choice would be to make your decision generation by generation looking at what both sides have to offer. I think saying liking one more than the other is not logical is illogical in itself. Though all of this is just my opinion don't put to much emphasis on it.
February 14, 2007 7:47:42 AM

Quote:
Maybe you prefer green over red? :wink:


My favourite team wears red and our eternal rivals wear green :evil:  ..... :lol:  :lol: 
February 14, 2007 7:57:43 AM

i bought the 6800gt for one of my builds as it ran doom 3 better at the time. that died on me so i bought a x1950pro as it gave me the BpB at the time. i intend to upgrade in 4 months and i will buy whatever runs DX10 the best when i upgrade. although i would say im slightly on AMDs side as i think they have the better Tech at the moment
February 14, 2007 8:18:08 AM

Well said my friend. However, buying an NVidia card with that stupid little tinkerbell on the box is like buying a pink and purple striped polo shirt: it screams....I'm a FAIERE!
February 14, 2007 8:51:22 AM

Quote:
Well its quite logical to gain a liking to a company or brand that has given you personally good products over time. Some ppl are ATI fanboys(myself inculded) because they got a bad nvidia card and don't like things about nvidia. Where as every time they use an ATI card is was good for them. Same for Nvidia fanboys.

The optimal choice would be to make your decision generation by generation looking at what both sides have to offer. I think saying liking one more than the other is not logical is illogical in itself. Though all of this is just my opinion don't put to much emphasis on it.
I see what you are saying but just because you had a problem with one or even two cards/drivers/whatever other problems there could have been, doesn't mean that all the cards that that certain company makes should be avoided.

That's arguing like my frind that saw the THG video of the cpu's where they take the heatsinks off. Just because that AMD cpu didn't make it he'll never buy it in his life.
February 14, 2007 9:50:21 AM

I have a slight inclination towards ATI, simply since I've often owned their top end cards, and they've done me well (And I like red better than green). Of course I would never let this stand in the way of a purchase, price/performance reigns supreme.

I started with an Nvidia TNT2, and like an idiot was disheartened when it wouldn't run Morrowind. As one of my very first personal upgrades, I read up on the hottest of hot, the 9700Pro, popped it in and was amazed. It lasted for several years and is still in my mother's rig where it's finally starting to have problems, until Oblivion came along. X850XT it was since I didn't think I would be able to afford hopping on the PCI-Express train for awhile. With my last build I went with a 7600GT, and have been very pleased with it aswell. I've also learned the value of the mid-range, and probably won't be going high-end again, so with the 8600GTs and mid-range R600s around the corner, I may be back on the red side again.

And personally, I think this is a good, fun thread that won't lead to flame wars unless people just start acting like idiots. Since subjective bias is inherently stated forthright, no one can really challenge anyone's statement unless people start getting too forceful with their opinions. Come on now.
February 14, 2007 10:00:41 AM

I don't have any preferences really, depends on my budget and what's the good price/perfomance ratio at the moment of buying.
February 14, 2007 10:28:27 AM

I've always had ATI cards... had both good and bad experiences with them, good as in with an OC'ed 9600XT that's still going strong today and an x1900XT, bad as in a X800GTO going faulty (though I think I killed it when I tried OCing it, so it mostly my bad it went faulty). Even then, I lean towards ATI because in my eyes, their products tend to be of better quality (though Nvidia do have really nice cards as well). And since ATI is a part of AMD, I guess that makes me an AMD fan now.
February 14, 2007 10:29:55 AM

Price is most important to me because they both put out good products. I like ATI AIW/TV Tuner boards that NVidia can't compete readily with. However, NVidia owns the game market for driver compatibility. I think the competition is what I love most.
February 14, 2007 10:39:04 AM

Yeah, keeps the prices on a lowdown.
February 14, 2007 11:29:02 AM

Quote:
I have a slight inclination towards ATI, simply since I've often owned their top end cards, and they've done me well (And I like red better than green). Of course I would never let this stand in the way of a purchase, price/performance reigns supreme.

So, what do you think of Gainward then. :wink:


I like Ati. 8)
Maybe the red board on the Gainward 7800GS+ got me. :? :twisted:
February 14, 2007 11:35:59 AM

having used both brands for several years I'm kinda neutral...

but to be honest right now im a bit more nVidia sided because I have a 8800gtx. (after you break you piggy bank for something you must love it lol)
February 14, 2007 11:55:41 AM

Quote:
I have a slight inclination towards ATI, simply since I've often owned their top end cards, and they've done me well (And I like red better than green). Of course I would never let this stand in the way of a purchase, price/performance reigns supreme.

So, what do you think of Gainward then. :wink:


I like Ati. 8)
Maybe the red board on the Gainward 7800GS+ got me. :? :twisted:

LOL, nice work having red, green and green, red
February 14, 2007 12:01:01 PM

I would have say I have a slightly preverence for Nvidia I've had 4 Nvidia cards and only 2 ATI cards. The ATI cards tend to be slower to market and require more power than the Nvidia cards.
February 14, 2007 12:11:20 PM

Geez, after reading some of these responses I feel like a bit of a newb... I hardly ever upgrade my video card.
The first PC I purchased had an ATI Rage card, I remember wanting to get a Matrox card at the time, but the vendor told me that they had lots of problems with them.
My second card was a Voodoo Banshee. It was not a terrible card, but I had a hell of a time finding drivers and support for it a lot of the time.
Third, was an NVidia Geforce Ti4400. That was a huge step up from the banshee. I replaced it a while back with the X800 XL. I'm still fairly happy with it, and I probably won't replace it until I have to upgrade to Vista (or hopefully whatever comes after).
After all that, I find myself favouring the ATI stuff. Can't say why for sure, they've both been good to me, (although that Banshee was the red-headed stepchild of the bunch).
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February 14, 2007 12:30:01 PM

I'm running both ATI in ym HTPC and nVidia noted in my sig...don't care about brand, it's whatever is the "best" I can afford when I need a new card...

I agree this is lame thread but couldn't help myself

+1 post for me!
February 14, 2007 12:53:19 PM

I had to rate myself as neutral but more because I am biased in both directions. My cards have been Nvidia for quite sometime, because I had some bad luck with drivers on an old ATI card. But I am an AMD fan (and Linux fan) because I have developped an aversion to "Wintel", but don't want the prefab inflexibilty of a Mac. So, I now find myself wanted to buy ATI next just because AMD bought them. Now I know, I should base my decisions on facts, stats and prices, but I'm just not rational enough for all that. Despite my love of computers, I am not quite that calculating and sometimes am driven by these odd things called "feelings". So I am neutral not because I am unbiased but rather because I have strong bias in both directions. I suppose eventually I will have to decide...
February 14, 2007 12:56:41 PM

I'm neutral... I've bought pretty much everything, and found most of the problems to be w/my system or drivers rather than the card.

Cards I've owned:
(some cheap matrox marvel standin while I was waiting for a card)
TNT2 32 MB
Voodoo5 64MB
GeForce 4 (not sure which)
Currently: radeon 9800proSE

Most of the earlier ones I've felt were lacking because they couldn't support the games/stuff I was getting into. Now the 9800 is starting to do the same.
February 14, 2007 1:00:18 PM

Both are overrated. Nothing beats Intel Integrated Graphics or S3!
February 14, 2007 1:19:46 PM

A lot of it has to do with WHEN you bought your video card, as they leap-frog each other.

My VC upgrade path: 9800-> x850 -> x1900 happened to coincide with Ati being the price/performance leader.

A few months earlier/later I would probably be an Nvidia fanboy
February 14, 2007 1:27:16 PM

Although I'm neutral, I prefered ATI for better image quality (till 8800 series), but switched to Geforce (7800GS atm) because of World of Warcraft :)  I'm fan of this game and its better tuned for nvidia than to ATI because of shamefull "The Way It's Meant To Be Played" program...

I'll wait for next DX10 cards refresh to buy some sexy G81 or R6xx card :D 
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