please help me to chose between Sony-830A and LG 12N >

first i have to ask for a link to both of these burners... the LG 12N i cant find anywhere..

edit: looked up the sony burner and it seems that it comes with nero 7 software suite which is about 100 dollars ( i think) + 18x speed is very fast.

con:
something i would like to see is lightscribe..

I have an older LG burner and I love it. Sony on the other hand is on my black list, ever since the rootkit scandal. I would not install any software from Sony, under any circumstances.

(Edit) Just to clarify: Nero 7 is not a Sony product, no problems there. I'd be afraid to install Sony's drivers though, I don't need software that reports what I'm doing and my online banking password and so on, and then wipes out the system. Sony says they're not in that business anymore, but I'm not quite ready to trust them again.

My LG came with Nero 6, Power DVD, InCD and a few other goodies, and I'm guessing that their newer models come with Nero 7. You should try to find out before buying, of course.

and thats why a plug and play makes sony a happy happy optical drive
most drives i know of is plug and play ( at least i would hope they are)

i got a sony 8x burner with no problems at all.

Actually its GSA-H12N LG DVD burner

@dt
I don't know what's really happened/happening, but most (but not always) of the times, Sony's optical drive sold here sux while you guys haven't had any major problem... What's the deal?

@Zeapoorte
As you can see from my experiences I stated above, obviously my choice would be LG, my friends that sold warez CDs & DVDs have two of them while the other who owned an Internet cafe have one, except for the old one [burned too much warez discs ], they're in perfect working condition


Edit: I worked @ the Internet Cafe (not anymore) and kinda 'Tech guy' for the warez-selling discs shop, so I know all about their PCs

Usually if the burner comes w/ Nero, its the OEM version of Nero, not the retail version.

OEM is usually about 3-5 of the applications that is found in the retail version.
Nero Express, etc, will probably be included.