Is there 16:9 SD broadcast?

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Yes, for the moment Fox broadcast some programs in 480p widescreen.
It is reported they will change to 720p soon.


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I stand corrected. ED is correct.


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"Greywolf" <greywolfin45@*spamisbad*sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "rcbridge" <rcbridge.19uuwk@nobody.satelliteguys.us> wrote in message
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> > Yes, for the moment Fox broadcast some programs in 480p widescreen.
>
> SD is 480i though while 480p is ED. I don't know of any 480i 16:9
> programming.
>
> Pat
>
>

704x480p = 16:9 "EDTV".
There is no such thing as 480i 16:9

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"dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> I saw mention on a web posting somewhere of 16:9 content being
> broadcast in standard definition. Is this common? I just got my HD
> tuner card last night (Fusion3) and so far the programs I have looked
> at have been 4:3. Would be nice if some of the non HD programming (all
> I got right now) was broadcast in a way that it would fill my whole
> widescreen.

Well, you see a lot of 16:9 content letterboxed into 4:3 rasters. I did,
a while back catch an anamorphic 16:9 broadcast on Canadian version of
the Family Channel. I didn't have my HDTV yet when that happened but was
able to watch it on my computer's 21" monitor using my ATI Wonder capture
card to grab the signal and DScaler to deinterlace and display it in the
correct aspect ratio (pretty much the same way I could then do with
anamorphic DVD content).

I suspect when broadcasters out there sense that nearly every TV can
handle an anamorphic broadcast that they will start doing them more
often. But that day is still a ways off....

There is getting to be quite a bit of DVD content that has anamorphic
wide-screen capability, though...and I look for it in the store nowadays
(got Close Encounters in that format the other day). It gives me a
better picture than letter-boxing can do because it puts all 960 of my
TV's upconverted scan lines into the middle 3/4 of the 4:3 tube's surface
(rather than spreading them the full distance). There may still be a bit
of letter-boxing on the really wide stuff (more than 1.78:1) but it's
better to have more lines actually in-picture wherever possible.

But even standard TV's of late manufacture can do the anamorphic trick
and in a few years there will be none around that can't except for
antiques.

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FYI 704x480 is available in 60i, 60p,30p and 24p and in either 4:3 or 16:9
according to ATSC standards. So YES, you can have 16:9 480I.


"William Tores" <427819@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > Yes, for the moment Fox broadcast some programs in 480p widescreen.
> >
> > SD is 480i though while 480p is ED. I don't know of any 480i 16:9
> > programming.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> >
>
> 704x480p = 16:9 "EDTV".
> There is no such thing as 480i 16:9
>
>
>
>
>
>

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"William Tores" <427819@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<yEhMc.16239$WP1.13753@fe1.texas.rr.com>...
> "Greywolf" <greywolfin45@*spamisbad*sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> > "rcbridge" <rcbridge.19uuwk@nobody.satelliteguys.us> wrote in message
> > news:rcbridge.19uuwk@nobody.satelliteguys.us...
> > >
> > > Yes, for the moment Fox broadcast some programs in 480p widescreen.
> >
> > SD is 480i though while 480p is ED. I don't know of any 480i 16:9
> > programming.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> >
>
> 704x480p = 16:9 "EDTV".
> There is no such thing as 480i 16:9

16:9 480i is quite common and likely to become the format of choice
for local broadcasters who want to move to an upconverter friendly
format. HD local news will be quite rare... but studio, ENG,
Graphics can all be 16:9 SD, 480i. The station can output this on
their DTV channel as is, or upconvert it to 1080i/720p.

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The only 16:9 SD broadcasts I have seen are Bravo presentations of
Cirque Du Soleil Quidam and one other Cirque du Soleil performance,
Allegria I believe. I haven't seen any local broadcaster use 16:9
480i but it may become more common in the future.

Chris