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Nvidia G80 and ATi R600 full series, specs and pricing

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February 15, 2007 2:51:07 PM

okay boys look what i found :lol:  :lol: 

http://forums.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=4058...

http://forums.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=fb9f...


dualcore R600 sounds insane :p  i just dont hope we need a 1500watt psu for it :D  lol

btw i hope this isnt a repost
February 15, 2007 3:06:08 PM

Wow.. this is pretty huge...

Now if we could only get a release date.....


EDIT: the scary part is, the ATIs really aren't that expensive compared to the nVidias
February 15, 2007 3:27:24 PM

yea its a little confusing :? but it also says ''The above chart is only meant for referece, final detail specs and pricing may change over time'' but dunno i guess its just about waiting and see what happens but atleast this gives us a little ''picture'' about whats gonna come
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February 15, 2007 3:30:05 PM

It's already coming out that most if not all of those charts are wrong.

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VR-Zone has learned that the official marketing name for R600 will be Radeon X2900 series and we will start using the name from now on. We can expect AMD to launch Radeon X2900XTX and XT first while X2900XL will follow later. The recent leaked R6xx series chart with pricing contains lots of false information is all we can say. RV610 and RV630 are 65nm and RV610 has 64-bit memory interface.

Among other things we can confirm right now; R600 is 80nm, contains 700M transistors and has 512-bit memory interface. X2900 requires 2 supplemental power connector from the PSU, one 8-pin and one 6-pin but you are able to plug in the 6-pin power cable into the 8-pin connector. The targeted driver release version for X2900 series is Catalyst 8.35.1. Systems with X2900XTX cards and tech demos will be at CeBIT but inside a private room for the privileged only.


LINK
February 15, 2007 3:30:19 PM

yea a release date would be nice :b

ATI has always been cheaper than Nvidia, i remember my x850xt was about $100 cheaper than the 7800gtx from nvidia
February 15, 2007 3:35:38 PM

thx for the information xD well its just about waiting so thats what i will do :D 
February 15, 2007 3:36:24 PM

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yea a release date would be nice :b

ATI has always been cheaper than Nvidia, i remember my x850xt was about $100 cheaper than the 7800gtx from nvidia


Probably because the X8XX series is a generation older than Nvidia's 7800 series. :roll:
February 15, 2007 3:38:06 PM

The x850xt was a generation behind Nvidia's 7800GTX. The x1800xt was supposed to compete with the 7800gtx.

EDIT: Ah, beat.
February 15, 2007 3:38:17 PM

Yeah, a few of the ATI cards are listed as 128 shaders when I have seen quite a few places that they are 96.

Also the 8600 Ultra isn't even mentioned.

If ATI really has cards as low end as mentioned it will be interesting to see how they perform.
February 15, 2007 3:49:53 PM

the x850xt came a little before 7800gtx and there wasnt that big a difference on em and the price was still higher on the 7800gtx

in my country nvidia is more expensive thats all i can say
February 15, 2007 3:51:15 PM

yea well i dunno if u can trust it :)  i just found it.. but its a waiting game :D 
February 15, 2007 3:53:01 PM

That 1 gig R600 card looks serious. If it performs as good as the specs indicate, my MasterCard bill is going to be going to be a bit higher. Flashed through my mind, two 1 gig cards in Crossfire, two psus, huge MasterCard bill, new electrical circut to feed the things.
February 15, 2007 4:20:28 PM

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Also the 8600 Ultra isn't even mentioned.


I think that 8900gs has the same specs as the before mentioned 8600 ultra.
February 15, 2007 4:27:47 PM

well lets hope they release the nvidia 8950gtx in the next 3 months so i can take advantage of the eVGA step up program. :D 
February 15, 2007 4:47:59 PM

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That 1 gig R600 card looks serious. If it performs as good as the specs indicate, my MasterCard bill is going to be going to be a bit higher. Flashed through my mind, two 1 gig cards in Crossfire, two psus, huge MasterCard bill, new electrical circut to feed the things.


Ig a C2D 6400 already bottlenecks a 8800, be prepared to also spend big bucks on a dual quad-core mobo+cpus.

Yeah, I'm planning a new build in May or June, so I already know there will be a lot of bucks spent. The present computer goes to my son, so he's already looking forward to that time.
February 15, 2007 5:44:54 PM

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yea a release date would be nice :b

ATI has always been cheaper than Nvidia, i remember my x850xt was about $100 cheaper than the 7800gtx from nvidia
Lol, yeah and it was half as fast without Shader Model 3.0 and FP16 support.
February 15, 2007 6:00:12 PM

from x800 till x850 was about a half year ehh
February 15, 2007 6:12:12 PM

i know the 7800gtx is better than x850xt as i write but the difference wasnt that great and even tho its another generation it doesnt have 2 be more expensive but ATI has always been more cheap
February 15, 2007 6:13:14 PM

half as fast? wtf benchies plz
February 15, 2007 6:16:17 PM

yea well lets see :p  im gonna wait for wolfdale anyway =p so no rush
February 15, 2007 6:20:40 PM

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i know the 7800gtx is better than x850xt as i write but the difference wasnt that great and even tho its another generation it doesnt have 2 be more expensive but ATI has always been more cheap


Yes it does. Only an idiot would pay more money for an older generation card, when the newer can be had for the same or cheaper.
February 15, 2007 6:25:32 PM

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from x800 till x850 was about a half year ehh


X850XT was released 7-8 months before the 7800 series.
February 15, 2007 6:33:59 PM

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i know the 7800gtx is better than x850xt as i write but the difference wasnt that great and even tho its another generation it doesnt have 2 be more expensive but ATI has always been more cheap


Yes it does. Only an idiot would pay more money for an older generation card, when the newer can be had for the same or cheaper.

Somehow, with as many people around who are still buying DX9 cards for higher prices than a DX10 (perhaps?) Nvidia 8800 card, there must be quite a few idiots running around. Either that, or they are stuck on ATI and won't consider Nvidia for any reason. Even if it turned out that the 8800 series won't run DX10, it still would be the fastest DX9 card around.
February 15, 2007 6:49:56 PM

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i know the 7800gtx is better than x850xt as i write but the difference wasnt that great and even tho its another generation it doesnt have 2 be more expensive but ATI has always been more cheap


The others have proven you wrong already, but let me weigh-in too. The 7800 was not "just" a generation above, but also much better in terms of supported dx9 features. Frankly, the 7800 was a better card when compared to the x850. (a trade-off when compared to the x1800)

and ati is always "more cheap"? When I bought my 1900xt in Feb. of last year (a week or so before the 7900s hit) I do not think that was cheap. I would hate to see expensive if that was cheap. 8O
February 15, 2007 7:07:23 PM

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Yeah, I'm planning a new build in May or June, so I already know there will be a lot of bucks spent. The present computer goes to my son, so he's already looking forward to that time.


8O Did I ever told you that I am your son!? papa!PAPAAAAAAAA! :D 
February 15, 2007 7:14:39 PM

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i know the 7800gtx is better than x850xt as i write but the difference wasnt that great and even tho its another generation it doesnt have 2 be more expensive but ATI has always been more cheap


Yes it does. Only an idiot would pay more money for an older generation card, when the newer can be had for the same or cheaper.

Somehow, with as many people around who are still buying DX9 cards for higher prices than a DX10 (perhaps?) Nvidia 8800 card, there must be quite a few idiots running around. Either that, or they are stuck on ATI and won't consider Nvidia for any reason. Even if it turned out that the 8800 series won't run DX10, it still would be the fastest DX9 card around.

I just got a X1950 XT and might be one of those idiots. Anyway, at the time, it was $150 cheaper than the 8800 GTS at the time and the X1950XT is fast enough for any DX9 game. I was also planning on waiting for the next-gen DX10 cards for when real DX10 games finally come out and require lots of power. About that time I will also upgrade to quad-core.

Also, my next card will be very high-end. If I got a Ati 9700 Pro when it came out, that card would have lasted me for years. I will follow the same thinking.
February 15, 2007 7:17:22 PM

It makes me laugh when some people bought the 7950 gx2 or 1950 xtx when they were more expensive than the 8800 gts.

Maybe I could get the x2300LE. The "limited" edition!
February 15, 2007 7:34:32 PM

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It makes me laugh when some people bought the 7950 gx2 or 1950 xtx when they were more expensive than the 8800 gts.

Maybe I could get the x2300LE. The "limited" edition!


Thankfully I did not get a 7950 or 1950xtx which costs more than a 8800. Actually even the new low-end cards have 32 pipes! Damn!
February 15, 2007 7:56:01 PM

chart is probably wrong anyway :p 
February 15, 2007 8:09:16 PM

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X850XT was released 7-8 months before the 7800 series.

and after 6800 which was supposed to compete with if i remember well
February 15, 2007 8:17:56 PM

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i know the 7800gtx is better than x850xt as i write but the difference wasnt that great and even tho its another generation it doesnt have 2 be more expensive but ATI has always been more cheap


Yes it does. Only an idiot would pay more money for an older generation card, when the newer can be had for the same or cheaper.

Somehow, with as many people around who are still buying DX9 cards for higher prices than a DX10 (perhaps?) Nvidia 8800 card, there must be quite a few idiots running around. Either that, or they are stuck on ATI and won't consider Nvidia for any reason. Even if it turned out that the 8800 series won't run DX10, it still would be the fastest DX9 card around.

I just got a X1950 XT and might be one of those idiots. Anyway, at the time, it was $150 cheaper than the 8800 GTS at the time and the X1950XT is fast enough for any DX9 game. I was also planning on waiting for the next-gen DX10 cards for when real DX10 games finally come out and require lots of power. About that time I will also upgrade to quad-core.

Also, my next card will be very high-end. If I got a Ati 9700 Pro when it came out, that card would have lasted me for years. I will follow the same thinking.

Well, I was looking at the prices posted today on Newegg. True enough a X1950 XT bought earlier could well have been $150 cheaper, in which case, you weren't an idiot. Otherwise, I'd have to look myself in the mirror and call myself an idiot for paying more for my X1900 XTX then what a 8800 card is selling for now.
February 15, 2007 8:38:51 PM

those graphs are dubbed false for most now

(Im following the R600 to a T now that its getting closer to realse.)

Its now officially Called the X2900, since it will be going up against the 8900s

VR-Zone

theres a pretty good tread with lots of info on Rage 3d (Mind you an ATI fan site but it still is loaded with info about the card)

Rage3d
February 15, 2007 8:39:46 PM

Up until the 8800GTS 320MB came out that was one of the best deals around (still is). You're only an idiot if you pay the same or more. :wink:
February 15, 2007 8:47:06 PM

it has nothing 2 do with generations of cards it has something 2 do with highend cards.. and ATI is just cheaper in Highend cards.. i was one of the first 2 get x850xt in my country and 7800gtx wasnt out there and it was still cheaper than the 7800gtx when it came out
February 15, 2007 8:48:21 PM

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from x800 till x850 was about a half year ehh


X850XT was released 7-8 months before the 7800 series.


thats what i said wasnt it? read.
February 15, 2007 8:53:57 PM

x850xt was just a updated version of the x800xt and not a much better performer but i wouldnt say that the 7800gtx was a half time better than x850xt lmao anyway it has nothing 2 do which is best im just saying that Nvidia's prices r higher than ATI's atleast in my country
February 15, 2007 8:55:26 PM

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it has nothing 2 do with generations of cards it has something 2 do with highend cards.. and ATI is just cheaper in Highend cards.. i was one of the first 2 get x850xt in my country and 7800gtx wasnt out there and it was still cheaper than the 7800gtx when it came out


Yes, it was cheaper because it came out before, and is a generation older. When comparing price differences between Nvidia and ATI, you can't compare an older card to a newer one. You should really be comparing the X1800XT to the 7800GTX. THINK. :roll:
February 15, 2007 8:59:20 PM

YOU said this...
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from x800 till x850 was about a half year ehh


I said this...

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X850XT was released 7-8 months before the 7800 series.


Those statements are not the same. Lesson's over. Do your homework next time.
February 15, 2007 8:59:45 PM

so ur saying the next generation gonna cost $700 because its a newer generation? and the next again is $800?

btw i can tell u that the X1800XT was cheaper here than the 7800GTX when released so back at u THINK
February 15, 2007 9:00:18 PM

they r all about a half a year as i said
February 15, 2007 9:01:45 PM

anyway its logic that the newer cards has better performance so back 2 reality im only saying that ATI is cheaper
February 15, 2007 9:07:01 PM

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so ur saying the next generation gonna cost $700 because its a newer generation? and the next again is $800?

btw i can tell u that the X1800XT was cheaper here than the 7800GTX when released so back at u THINK

No what will happen is the current high end cards will drop in price and then the new ones will take their place. So for example the 8800 will go down in price to like $499 or something and the 8900 will be $599.

It's always been this way.
February 15, 2007 9:11:04 PM

thats my point but he think that the price jump higher on every generation.. i said ''so ur saying''


its logic ofc :)  i just know in my country i get ATI cards $80 cheaper or so
February 15, 2007 9:12:06 PM

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so ur saying the next generation gonna cost $700 because its a newer generation? and the next again is $800?


No little man, by the time a new $300 card comes out, the older gen card that was $300 will have dropped in price. Apparently, you live in some sort of wierd fantasy land, so there's no point in trying to talk some sense into you.
February 15, 2007 9:17:55 PM

u wrote ''Yes, it was cheaper because it came out before, and is a generation older. When comparing price differences between Nvidia and ATI, you can't compare an older card to a newer one.''

but the price of em was still different when they came out :)  and so was the 7800gtx and x1800xt so ''Apparently'' i dont live in some sort of weird fantasy land
February 15, 2007 9:23:33 PM

i seriously agree with Kaotao. bullaRh, you make no sense what-so-ever. I would also recomend you increase your English skills as you interperet just about every other word said wrongly.
February 15, 2007 9:25:37 PM

8O Wow, are you really that stupid?
February 15, 2007 9:27:08 PM

To my above statement. take a Buisness/Marketing class, it would be for your better good.
February 15, 2007 9:27:38 PM

so what do u agree with him about?

its just that we cant all have english as our first language and if u dont understand it tell me and i will try to find a better way for u to understand
February 15, 2007 9:30:25 PM

why u bring that up? its logic that when a better products come the older one gets cheaper but he doesnt understand that and apparently i can get the ATI cards cheaper than the Nvidia's
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