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Ok, I thought I had it all figured out... I was going to wait till April and snag a Q6600 (when prices drop).
Now people are talking about this Penryn thing coming out. At first I thought it was a chipset for mobile computers, but now I guess this is a major overhaul that may not be compatible with current boards.
Help me out here folks, how seemless would the transition from Conroe to Penryn be for the consumer?
Also, since Quad won't be fully utilized by apps right now... should I go ultra cheap C2D (4300) and just wait till Penryn comes out for Quad?
Finally, what's the timing of the launch of Penryn? I assume I'd have to wait 1-2 quarters afterwards to get a reasonable price on the new chip.
Dang, just when I thought I had my system figured out! 
At some point, I guess you just have to jump into the waters.
| Quote : For Penryn's release, I keep hearing 2nd half of 2007. I'm purely guessing here, but if it's not out in time for the back to school season, I don't expect it till mid fall as they wouldn't want to reduce that busy time for computer sales. Personally, I'm willing to wait for the 4/22 price cuts, but not another 6 months after that for an unknown product coming out, even if the technology sounds real promising. |
Yeah, but think what QX6700 will be selling for on Penryn's launch day! It might be worth waiting just for that! 
Edit: Accidental double post. I'm a moron. Thank you. 
the Penryn was pushed back to the first half of 08 if i do recall
as for upgrading ill be doing it in April/March since that is the estimated date for ATis R600 (now X2900XTX) and hey if Quads are getting a price cut i may wait till 22nd (Happy Bday to me Indeed )
with computer technology there will always be something better the what u have coming out no matter what, its just a matter of decididng wahts better and for the most april i believe all Penryn is, is a die shrink of Conroe with an small added features.
Change your avatar, dude. Every time I see that, I figure Baron is coming in to blast somebody! 
eh i will i jsut need to shrink 1 down or get something to work its all not ..working
makes me sad....like......something :\
| Quote : Read carefully, the two processors slated for introduction in Q1 2008 are Wolfdale and Yorksfield, Penryn is not mentioned... regardless, a few days later the Inq published a second rumor http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37334
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Come on, Jack! You're taking the word of Intel insiders over the Inq? Give those Pulitzer-Prize winning journalists some respect! 
| Quote : the Penryn was pushed back to the first half of 08 if i do recall
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Because high-k metal gates is a small feature...
The boards that look to support Penryn seem to be the 680i series of boards and some revised PCB P965 boards (like the Gigabyte Generation 2.0 revision). I think the 975X chipset has reached its limit, unless Intel (or another manufacturer) plans to make another revision like a BadAxe3. Then again, Penryn may be compatible with all current motherboards.
We can only wait to find out on how k8l will truly perform, I just wish amd would release some benchmarks already, as when intel developed conroe, they had benchmarks out almost half a year before the launch, and that proved to everyone that conroe was a killer, but at this rate, amd is telling people they have another qfx on their hands, but still, you can't criticize something until you've seen it's true potential, I am not guaranteeing that k8l will create unseen performance (unless they manage to overclock over 3ghz finally ), but that we can't judge something before it's out
| Quote : Change your avatar, dude. Every time I see that, I figure Baron is coming in to blast somebody! |
true , true 
| Quote : We can only wait to find out on how k8l will truly perform, I just wish amd would release some benchmarks already, as when intel developed conroe, they had benchmarks out almost half a year before the launch, and that proved to everyone that conroe was a killer, but at this rate, amd is telling people they have another qfx on their hands, but still, you can't criticize something until you've seen it's true potential, I am not guaranteeing that k8l will create unseen performance (unless they manage to overclock over 3ghz finally |
I agree. However, every day AMD doesn't give us anything creates another day of higher expectations. Grrr..... lol.
| Quote : We can only wait to find out on how k8l will truly perform, I just wish amd would release some benchmarks already, as when intel developed conroe, they had benchmarks out almost half a year before the launch, and that proved to everyone that conroe was a killer, but at this rate, amd is telling people they have another qfx on their hands, but still, you can't criticize something until you've seen it's true potential, I am not guaranteeing that k8l will create unseen performance (unless they manage to overclock over 3ghz finally |
I agree. However, every day AMD doesn't give us anything creates another day of higher expectations. Grrr..... lol.
I know, it pisses me off too, I'm debating between barcelona or waiting for penryn
| Quote : They could be avoiding the Osborne effect. Then again, word on the low is that its 20% better than Conroe. Anyone that says a blanket 70% can't do basic math. If its 70% better than Conroe, and Conroe is 20 - 30% better than K8, that means AMD improved on their arch by at least 80 - 90%. Not impossible, but highly improbable. |
The question then becomes how high will it OC, because if it is 20% faster stock but OC's 20% less than Conroe it will probably be a push. My personal expectation is about 10 (maybe 15% if AMD pulls off something crazy) over the X6800 but will max out around 3.3GHz leaving the OC crowd very content with their purchases of the E4300 and other other nice OC'ers. Again the point is we don't know... unless Ninja is holding back 
You know? 
duh, you told me about your n1nj4 w00t 1337 09503-458x 8O
| Quote : duh, you told me about your n1nj4 w00t 1337 09503-458x 8O |
Such proper English........ lol.
Yeah, I know NDA's are typical and strict, but usually something leaks.... 8O
Keep us informed ninja.
that's why it's one of his connections And you know ninja, he'll kill himself before he fails to keep us informed on something
please change your name and I'll help you
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