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Nvidia Released WHQL driver for 8800 cards in Vista

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February 20, 2007 4:47:10 PM
February 20, 2007 4:51:56 PM

At last!!! 8O 8O

I hope the "WHQL" tag means better gaming performance. :) 
February 20, 2007 5:32:49 PM

Sexy, can't wait till someone gets some performance info on the cards running with vista
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February 20, 2007 5:40:52 PM

Given this I suppose the Inquirer and Theo Valich are looking a little foolish in today's "News".

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AMD now has a levy over Nvidia measured in weeks - WHQL SLI driver for DirectX 10 or 64-bit Vista isn't expected until April


AMD to overtake Nvidia in WHQL driver wars
February 20, 2007 5:45:01 PM

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Given this I suppose the Inquirer and Theo Valich are looking a little foolish in today's "News".

AMD now has a levy over Nvidia measured in weeks - WHQL SLI driver for DirectX 10 or 64-bit Vista isn't expected until April


AMD to overtake Nvidia in WHQL driver wars

I don't think so, u need to read the driver release notes:

"DirectX 9 and OpenGL NVIDIA SLI support for GeForce 6 and 7 series GPUs and DirectX 10 NVIDIA SLI support for GeForce 8800 GPUs will be available in a future driver"
February 20, 2007 5:57:34 PM

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I don't think so, u need to read the driver release notes:

"DirectX 9 and OpenGL NVIDIA SLI support for GeForce 6 and 7 series GPUs and DirectX 10 NVIDIA SLI support for GeForce 8800 GPUs will be available in a future driver"


I think they are just saying that DX10 doesn't work in SLI right now. So DX10 itself works just reverts to one card if you are running SLI, not perfect but still functional.
February 20, 2007 6:02:04 PM

Yeah i know it's still in beta, i was just pointing that the Inquirer was referring to a WHQL SLI Driver.
a b Î Nvidia
February 20, 2007 6:14:56 PM

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I think they are just saying that DX10 doesn't work in SLI right now. So DX10 itself works just reverts to one card if you are running SLI, not perfect but still functional.


Well that is the whole point of the post above, and the article itself specifically stating that very thing that DX10 SLi support is still Beta.

I noticed he didn't want to finish Theo's sentence, so here's the actual quote to which Red was replying;

"We don't have confirmation of DX10 drivers for 64-bit operating systems, but we have been assured that the driver support will be second to none and that AMD now has a levy over Nvidia measured in weeks - WHQL SLI driver for DirectX 10 or 64-bit Vista isn't expected until April - which is pretty sad."

Seems pretty focused on DX10 and SLi. although the 64bit version does support regular SLi like the 32 bit version, but BOTH don't support DX10 SLi, which may have been the point.

It'd be interesting to see if anything had to be made 'optional' in order to pass qualification. A few thing in the trouble list still interesting like multi-monitor support and LCD scaling (guess S4fun missed that one).

Main thing this means now is that DELL can start shipping SLi Vista rigs for their XPS customers, but with the cavea in small type somewhere than DX10 SLi isn't supported (not that it's really gonna matter for a while to come).
February 20, 2007 6:20:18 PM

So did anyone tested these drivers compared to the beta ones if there's any performance difference say for example in the DX10 Nvidia demo that was just released a few days ago?
February 20, 2007 6:23:22 PM

Wait a sec krisz, my 56k modem is still downloading :D ,


I appreciate the explanation GreatApe, I was pointing that the SLI drivers are still in Beta. :roll:
February 20, 2007 6:35:14 PM

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Wait a sec krisz, my 56k modem is still downloading :D ,


Poor some coffee over it maybe that will make it go faster :) 
February 20, 2007 6:38:45 PM

Wait... so is 8800 SLI supported in 32-bit DX10 Vista or not? Or is it just supported in DX9?

I'm confused and have the Vista upgrade disc in-hand.
February 20, 2007 6:41:24 PM

no, it is just supported in DX9, the DX10 support will be in a "Future" release.
February 20, 2007 7:04:05 PM

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Wait... so is 8800 SLI supported in 32-bit DX10 Vista or not? Or is it just supported in DX9?

I'm confused and have the Vista upgrade disc in-hand.
Only Direct X9, not that you're missing too much with no Direct X10 titles out.
February 20, 2007 7:07:33 PM

Thanks Red Devil, you are correct and now I look foolish. The Inquirer article is incredibly biased either way. I found it funny that they ran a story about a lack of WHQL drivers from Nvidia on the same day they release WHQL drivers.

To GreatGrape, I wasn't trying to mislead but quoting the key point and providing a link to the full text. Sorry if it comes across as misleading.

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I noticed he didn't want to finish Theo's sentence, so here's the actual quote to which Red was replying;

February 20, 2007 8:19:48 PM

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Wait... so is 8800 SLI supported in 32-bit DX10 Vista or not? Or is it just supported in DX9?

I'm confused and have the Vista upgrade disc in-hand.
Only Direct X9, not that you're missing too much with no Direct X10 titles out.

Thanks, so I should be good to install Vista since I'm just playing DX9 (which is supported in 8800 SLI). But I want DX10 support NOW! :cry: 

btw, doesn't Flight Sim X have DX10 built in already?
February 20, 2007 9:14:47 PM

NO, i see this one time and time again FSX IS DX9 and as of current DX9 ONLY. it will NOT be DX10 for another few months. they plan to release a patch allowing it to be rendered in DX10.

so now that you know. spread the word :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
a b Î Nvidia
February 20, 2007 10:30:51 PM

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Thanks Red Devil, you are correct and now I look foolish. The Inquirer article is incredibly biased either way. I found it funny that they ran a story about a lack of WHQL drivers from Nvidia on the same day they release WHQL drivers.


Well the question is was in coincidence, or was it the InQ article that pushed the release ahead?

Seems like only yesterday that nV didn't want these drivers out in the public space and had Guru3D pull them;

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?nam...

Hey it was yesterday, and the day before. :wink:

So the question is what were nV holding back prior to the InQ's comments?

Now Guru3D can give them out. There's gotta be a reason for the change of heart less than 48hours later.
a b Î Nvidia
February 20, 2007 11:02:57 PM

Oh I know they do, and considering nV's reaction to Guru3D leaking Beta drivers (not the first time) I don't doubt that it might even be true.

Seriously why now and not 2 days ago?

Why the same drivers, yet go to the effort of telling Guru to remove them?

The other things is that the InQ's article was published @ noon GMT (the InQ is Euro), and meanwhile nV's driver's didn't hit the street until after noon EST.

So you tell me which came first the the chicken or the egg?

Look like the article came first by a few hours time.
February 21, 2007 2:33:34 AM

Well, at least they are here now, and i think Nvidia will have the SLI driver ready by 15 march. for obvious reasons. :) 
February 21, 2007 5:58:04 AM

So, any 3DMark coparisons to 100.64 drivers?
February 21, 2007 9:09:26 AM

I would be interested too to see how the DX10 Nvidia demo (waterfalls) runs with the new drivers compared to the beta ones.
February 21, 2007 9:20:45 AM

Well find out as soon as I get back home from work.
February 23, 2007 4:22:57 AM

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Well find out as soon as I get back home from work.


Not back from work yet? You're working too hard.

Anyway, DreamScene doesn't crash when I reboot after 100.65. Now I have my moving wallpaper on all the time :D 
February 23, 2007 5:20:28 AM

Well, 3DMark 06 says about the same...was 7301 with 100.65, now 7279 3DMarks..
Well se how they fare in games....
My NVidia Froggy demo is having artefacts now?!?!
February 23, 2007 6:57:19 AM

Whoop-de-dooooo....Take two aspirin, and call me back when there's afull range of SLI support for the 6's and 7's, (dx 9 of course) and also sli support for the 88 series in dx10. THAT will be worthy of WHQL certification.

Until then its a big nothing.

However, it does bring up one point. Whoever at M$ is doing the WHQL certs must be lowering their standards to allow this to be given the 'whql certified' gold standard.

my 2p
a b Î Nvidia
February 23, 2007 2:17:20 PM

WHQL certification can occur without all the features, as long as whatever doesn't pass is made 'optional'.

Which begs the question, what was placed under the 'optional' category to getcertification?

ATi had to do the same with some of it's features because there was technically no way to get it to pass certification as an automatic feature. Even the Chuck Patch had to wait a while until they could integrate it into the drivers properly so that it would pass certification (which is why it was a beta/patch for so long instead of included in the dirvers).
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