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Memory or GPU: which is more important?

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Which has more pull: More memory or faster GPU?

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February 20, 2007 7:48:09 PM

I have found two Ati cards:

ATI Radeon X1650 PRO with 512mb for 182.99

ATI Radeon X1950 PRO with 256mb for 208.44

Because both of these cards are relatively equally priced, should I go for more memory or for a faster GPU? In the long run will a faster GPU or more memory get me farther?

~Cruton

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February 20, 2007 8:07:25 PM

The X1950pro will blow away any X1650pro. Go for it.
February 20, 2007 8:09:44 PM

The X1950Pro by far.
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February 20, 2007 8:09:56 PM

No, you have found only one card. The X1950Pro.
February 20, 2007 8:12:23 PM

Comparing the two, the 256mb X1950 will wreck the 512mb X1650 - even at high resolutions and dense graphical games, more memory on the X1650 won't compare to the lesser memory on the X1950.

If they were the same GPU, sure.
February 20, 2007 8:24:01 PM

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Comparing the two, the 256mb X1950 will wreck the 512mb X1650 - even at high resolutions and dense graphical games, more memory on the X1650 won't compare to the lesser memory on the X1950.

If they were the same GPU, sure.


Agreed. Even then, there wouldn't be a big difference.
February 20, 2007 8:35:05 PM

You have your answer
February 20, 2007 8:52:25 PM

X1950Pro owns a X1600 all day long.
February 20, 2007 9:07:19 PM

Yeah, get the 1950Pro it's better. Also you need good amount of ram as well to run games at high settings.
February 20, 2007 11:23:07 PM

if you read the recent article on x1950 pro with 256 vs 512 you see the extra memory on helpd at really high resolutions.

as you have a better card you need more memory.

you will get better performace from the 1950 with 256 then the 1650 with 512 - the only thing that might change that is if you computer memory is very small like 512 and you are using all of it.

get the x1950 pro 256 we have it - it rocks
February 21, 2007 1:14:12 AM

Wow, and I thought that this could go either way! Thanks for your replies. Here is the system I am planning on building:

Asus M2R32-MVP
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+
Corsair 6400 XMS2 2GB
ATI Radeon X1950 PRO (256)
Pioneer DVR-111D
Sony DDU-1615 DVD-ROM
WD Caviar RE2 500GB
Sabrent 52-in-1
Logitech G11 Keyboard
Logitech G7 Mouse
Vista Ultamate
Logitech Extreme PC Gaming Headset

All for $1262
February 21, 2007 1:53:48 AM

Just a question... Any reason you're not going C2D?
February 21, 2007 2:14:33 AM

No problem.
February 21, 2007 2:50:39 AM

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Just a question... Any reason you're not going C2D?


don't think he has to explain himself to you, if he wants AMD he can buy AMD. If he wants to by a Geforce 6300 for a gaming PC, he can. Mabye he is waiting out the next architecture for the AM2. Does it really matter?
February 21, 2007 7:46:04 AM

You don't have to get upset. Yes, the OP can do anything he wants and he doesn't HAVE to explain himself to anyone, but all Itheral did was ask a question, and what's more, a reasonable one.
February 21, 2007 9:57:12 AM

don't read emotion in my post, as i did not put any there (eg: a smiley face etc etc). You seen the 6000+ ? pretty close to the e6700. when it moves to 65nm it could be better (excluding the interger benches where it gets raped)
February 21, 2007 10:12:21 AM

here we go again...another argument.
a b U Graphics card
February 21, 2007 10:27:56 AM

gpu
February 21, 2007 10:46:39 AM

Well gpu or memory depends on what apps and stuff your using most, right?
Id say upgrade both, if either one is slacking it affects the other.
But im a n00b so what do i know. =)

Edit: Ok i read that as system memory not graphics memory, thats why you should read the initial post so you dont forget what its all about....
February 21, 2007 1:16:25 PM

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don't read emotion in my post, as i did not put any there (eg: a smiley face etc etc). You seen the 6000+ ? pretty close to the e6700. when it moves to 65nm it could be better (excluding the interger benches where it gets raped)


Actually it score slightly better than the E6600 and gets beat by the E6700 hence the reason why its priced in between the E6600 and E6700. However teh 6000+ runs alot hotter and uses alot more power. If he is buying a PC right at this very moment Core 2 Duo is the way to go. The C2D E6300 for around the same price is clearly the winner.
February 21, 2007 1:51:00 PM

I'm cool with explaining myself thanks everyone for sticking up for me, w/o that discussion, I wouldn't have understood the acronym C2D.

1) I am and always will be and AMD fan. I like the competition AMD brings to the CPU industry. I know that C2D beats out X2, but I will be content with the speed I will be getting.

2) My wife gave me a $1,000 budget. I already have a case, ps and ram bought. I feel that the X2 4600+ will give me the best bang for under $200-(The E6600 is over $300).
February 21, 2007 5:04:21 PM

If you don't plan on overclocking then the X2 4600 will do you just fine but if you do plan to overclock you might want to consider an E4300 or E6300. Once overclocked they'll hand the X2 4600 it's ass for the same cost as the X2 4600.

Also, that Patriot memory that they just reviewed might be a little cheaper (after rebate) than the Corsair stuff you have selected. It will easily perform just as good while saving you a few bucks. The rebate ends soon so you'd better act fast on it.
February 28, 2007 7:52:49 AM

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if you read the recent article on x1950 pro with 256 vs 512 you see the extra memory on helpd at really high resolutions.

as you have a better card you need more memory.

you will get better performace from the 1950 with 256 then the 1650 with 512 - the only thing that might change that is if you computer memory is very small like 512 and you are using all of it.

get the x1950 pro 256 we have it - it rocks


what if the GPUs were significantly closer: i.e. a 1950Pro 512MB vs a 1950XT 256MB???
February 28, 2007 8:31:17 AM

NOOOOOOOOO get the x1650 pro its the fastest card on the planet :roll: ... :lol: 

are you thick or something its like comparing a f1 car to a ford :D 
a b U Graphics card
February 28, 2007 8:57:41 AM

Not sure what game (games) that require 512 for ultra textures, cant remember. But unless its your favorite the xt is by far the better gpu
February 28, 2007 9:56:21 AM

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NOOOOOOOOO get the x1650 pro its the fastest card on the planet :roll: ... :lol: 

are you thick or something its like comparing a f1 car to a ford :D 

HAHA!!! FORDS AND X1650 PROS FTW!!!
February 28, 2007 10:56:02 AM

:p 
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its like comparing a f1 car to a ford :D 


F1 Toyata vs Ford lol
February 28, 2007 11:08:09 AM

Why toyota?
February 28, 2007 11:52:14 AM

to answer the original question... amount of ram on a graphics card has very little effect on frame rate UNTIL the game in question needs to load more textures in to memory than the card has, then you get a huge performance hit as the system has to start using main memory to swap out to

so an X1600 will always run slower than an X1950, but an X1950 with 256mb will cripple itself when trying to play a recent game where the high textures setting means loading >256mb of textures (this is most games coming out now)

if you play with textures on medium (which for most games specifically means that they keep within 256mb), the X19 class card will easily outperform the X16,

if you have any card with 256mb and try running games that require more than that, you'll get crap performance regardless of what GPU you have (turning down the textures setting will give you the single biggest performance boost, thus allowing you to turn up other settings to compensate),

it might be that the GPU and systems brute force can overcome the delay of having to use system memory for textures, but don't be surprised if you get low frame rates using a 256mb card to play with high textures

wether or not it's playable is going to be a game by game basis of changing settings to see what runs, but if you have a 256mb card then turning down textures will be the first port of call
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