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1) I want to get HDTV-- probably a DLP projection.

2)) I currently get cable service with no tuner needed (thus it isn't
digital).

3) I am not paying for the service-- it is simply coming through the coax.

QUESTION:
I want to know if I will be getting any HD signal thru the cable, or is a
digital tuner required? I don't have any HD channels (ie the HD movie
channels, or HDDiscovery), but there are many programs on CBS, NBC, etc
broadcast in HD. Are these channels' HD signal only over the airwaves, or
always piped in thru the cable. I am in the Philadelphia market.

I can't get an external outdoor antenna because i am in a condo/townhouse
that doesn't allow it. I guess a settop antenna is doable, but it may be
ugly. I use Lower Merion Comcast Cable.

According to the website, comcast offers HD service but they require a
Comcast HDTV decoder (whether or not you have a HD-Ready set or not)! What
a ripoff-- is this really true?

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"Verizon User" <anonymous@anon.com> wrote in message
news:mDyRc.2579$K82.626@trndny01...
> 1) I want to get HDTV-- probably a DLP projection.
>
> 2)) I currently get cable service with no tuner needed (thus it isn't
> digital).
>
> 3) I am not paying for the service-- it is simply coming through the coax.
>
> QUESTION:
> I want to know if I will be getting any HD signal thru the cable, or is a
> digital tuner required? I don't have any HD channels (ie the HD movie
> channels, or HDDiscovery), but there are many programs on CBS, NBC, etc
> broadcast in HD. Are these channels' HD signal only over the airwaves, or
> always piped in thru the cable. I am in the Philadelphia market.
>
> I can't get an external outdoor antenna because i am in a condo/townhouse
> that doesn't allow it. I guess a settop antenna is doable, but it may be
> ugly. I use Lower Merion Comcast Cable.
>
> According to the website, comcast offers HD service but they require a
> Comcast HDTV decoder (whether or not you have a HD-Ready set or not)!
What
> a ripoff-- is this really true?

You are kidding, right? A rip-off? And you are paying how much for your
cable service right now?

Actually, your question is a very easy one, but why don't you call your
cable operator and have them explain it to you. Most of the posters here
are civilized and honest enough to pay for the services that they use.

Leonard

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Verizon User wrote:
>
> 1) I want to get HDTV-- probably a DLP projection.
>
> 2)) I currently get cable service with no tuner needed (thus it isn't
> digital).
>
> 3) I am not paying for the service-- it is simply coming through the coax.
>
> QUESTION:
> I want to know if I will be getting any HD signal thru the cable, or is a
> digital tuner required?

Yes, the HD signal does come thru the Cable wire....
You must have either a QAM Cable box tuner or OTA (over the air
Antenna)
HD digital tuner to decode/receive a HD picture.
The Cable box will also unscramble some HD channels, IF the
Cable Co offers some/any.
A $2/mo cable card may recover some unscrambled Cable channels
IF you new HDTV has a built in tuner.

Digital Tuners are not Free... The OTA HD Programs are.




I don't have any HD channels (ie the HD movie
> channels, or HDDiscovery), but there are many programs on CBS, NBC, etc
> broadcast in HD. Are these channels' HD signal only over the airwaves, or
> always piped in thru the cable. I am in the Philadelphia market.

They come both ways... OTA antenna HD Programs can be put
on Cable HDTV only after they 1st appear on OTA....
and the Cable Co/TV station have an agreement....

>
> I can't get an external outdoor antenna because i am in a condo/townhouse
> that doesn't allow it. I guess a settop antenna is doable, but it may be
> ugly. I use Lower Merion Comcast Cable.

You can buy a Walmart OTA HDTV tuner for $198....
then mount a flat UHF outdoor antenna indoors.. It works IF
you are on the correct side of the Bldg relative to the
HDTV digital Towers.

>
> According to the website, comcast offers HD service but they require a
> Comcast HDTV decoder (whether or not you have a HD-Ready set or not)! What
> a ripoff-- is this really true?


HDTV TV station equipment is vary expensive.....

An HDTV decoder is a Cable tuner/receiver with unscramble
capability...
It is not a Free piece of HDTV equipment.....

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"Dennis Mayer" <Polaris1@execpc.com> wrote in message
news:4116C69C.C11566A8@execpc.com...
>
>
> Verizon User wrote:
> >
> > 1) I want to get HDTV-- probably a DLP projection.
> >
> > 2)) I currently get cable service with no tuner needed (thus it isn't
> > digital).
> >
> > 3) I am not paying for the service-- it is simply coming through the
coax.
> >
> > QUESTION:
> > I want to know if I will be getting any HD signal thru the cable, or is
a
> > digital tuner required?
>
> Yes, the HD signal does come thru the Cable wire....
> You must have either a QAM Cable box tuner or OTA (over the air
> Antenna)
> HD digital tuner to decode/receive a HD picture.
> The Cable box will also unscramble some HD channels, IF the
> Cable Co offers some/any.
> A $2/mo cable card may recover some unscrambled Cable channels
> IF you new HDTV has a built in tuner.
>
> Digital Tuners are not Free... The OTA HD Programs are.
>
>
>
>
> I don't have any HD channels (ie the HD movie
> > channels, or HDDiscovery), but there are many programs on CBS, NBC, etc
> > broadcast in HD. Are these channels' HD signal only over the airwaves,
or
> > always piped in thru the cable. I am in the Philadelphia market.
>
> They come both ways... OTA antenna HD Programs can be put
> on Cable HDTV only after they 1st appear on OTA....
> and the Cable Co/TV station have an agreement....
>
> >
> > I can't get an external outdoor antenna because i am in a
condo/townhouse
> > that doesn't allow it. I guess a settop antenna is doable, but it may
be
> > ugly. I use Lower Merion Comcast Cable.
>
> You can buy a Walmart OTA HDTV tuner for $198....
> then mount a flat UHF outdoor antenna indoors.. It works IF
> you are on the correct side of the Bldg relative to the
> HDTV digital Towers.
>
> >
> > According to the website, comcast offers HD service but they require a
> > Comcast HDTV decoder (whether or not you have a HD-Ready set or not)!
What
> > a ripoff-- is this really true?
>
>
> HDTV TV station equipment is vary expensive.....
>
> An HDTV decoder is a Cable tuner/receiver with unscramble
> capability...
> It is not a Free piece of HDTV equipment.....


Thanks so much for your informative answers!

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On Sun, 8 Aug 2004, Verizon User wrote:
> 1) I want to get HDTV-- probably a DLP projection.
>
> 2)) I currently get cable service with no tuner needed (thus it isn't
> digital).
>
> 3) I am not paying for the service-- it is simply coming through the coax.
>
> QUESTION:
> I want to know if I will be getting any HD signal thru the cable, or is a
> digital tuner required? I don't have any HD channels (ie the HD movie
> channels, or HDDiscovery), but there are many programs on CBS, NBC, etc
> broadcast in HD. Are these channels' HD signal only over the airwaves, or
> always piped in thru the cable. I am in the Philadelphia market.
>
> I can't get an external outdoor antenna because i am in a condo/townhouse
> that doesn't allow it. I guess a settop antenna is doable, but it may be
> ugly. I use Lower Merion Comcast Cable.

Wrong. Everyone is entitled to an outdoor antenna. Just because you're
renting doesn't mean that this doesn't apply to you - but there are some
restrictions for renters that must be honored. The FCC spoke to this issue a
while ago.

> According to the website, comcast offers HD service but they require a
> Comcast HDTV decoder (whether or not you have a HD-Ready set or not)! What
> a ripoff-- is this really true?

I am not in your market so I don't know.

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First off.........The FCC Regulation regarding outdoor antenna, over rules
your associations rules regarding such. They MUST ALLOW IT!


As directed by Congress in Section 207 of the Telecommunications Act of
1996, the Federal Communications Commission adopted the Over-the-Air
Reception Devices Rule concerning governmental and nongovernmental
restrictions on viewers' ability to receive video programming signals from
direct broadcast satellites ("DBS" ), multichannel multipoint distribution
(wireless cable) providers ("MMDS" ), and television broadcast stations
("TVBS" ).

The rule is cited as 47 C.F.R. Section 1.4000 and has been in effect since
October 14, 1996. It prohibits restrictions that impair the installation,
maintenance or use of antennas used to receive video programming. The rule
applies to video antennas including direct-to- home satellite dishes that
are less than one meter (39.37" ) in diameter (or of any size in Alaska), TV
antennas, and wireless cable antennas. The rule prohibits most restrictions
that: (1) unreasonably delay or prevent installation, maintenance or use;
(2) unreasonably increase the cost of installation, maintenance or use; or
(3) preclude reception of an acceptable quality signal.

Effective January 22, 1999, the Commission amended the rule so that it also
applies to rental property where the renter has an exclusive use area, such
as a balcony or patio.



"Verizon User" <anonymous@anon.com> wrote in message
news:mDyRc.2579$K82.626@trndny01...
> 1) I want to get HDTV-- probably a DLP projection.
>
> 2)) I currently get cable service with no tuner needed (thus it isn't
> digital).
>
> 3) I am not paying for the service-- it is simply coming through the coax.
>
> QUESTION:
> I want to know if I will be getting any HD signal thru the cable, or is a
> digital tuner required? I don't have any HD channels (ie the HD movie
> channels, or HDDiscovery), but there are many programs on CBS, NBC, etc
> broadcast in HD. Are these channels' HD signal only over the airwaves, or
> always piped in thru the cable. I am in the Philadelphia market.
>
> I can't get an external outdoor antenna because i am in a condo/townhouse
> that doesn't allow it. I guess a settop antenna is doable, but it may be
> ugly. I use Lower Merion Comcast Cable.
>
> According to the website, comcast offers HD service but they require a
> Comcast HDTV decoder (whether or not you have a HD-Ready set or not)!
> What
> a ripoff-- is this really true?
>
>
>
>
>
>

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"199.45.49.11" <dogs_pee@bushes.com> wrote in message news:<AiZRc.9982$BO.4812@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>...
> First off.........The FCC Regulation regarding outdoor antenna, over rules
> your associations rules regarding such. They MUST ALLOW IT!
>
>
> As directed by Congress in Section 207 of the Telecommunications Act of
> 1996, the Federal Communications Commission adopted the Over-the-Air
> Reception Devices Rule concerning governmental and nongovernmental
> restrictions on viewers' ability to receive video programming signals from
> direct broadcast satellites ("DBS" ), multichannel multipoint distribution
> (wireless cable) providers ("MMDS" ), and television broadcast stations
> ("TVBS" ).
>
> The rule is cited as 47 C.F.R. Section 1.4000 and has been in effect since
> October 14, 1996. It prohibits restrictions that impair the installation,
> maintenance or use of antennas used to receive video programming. The rule
> applies to video antennas including direct-to- home satellite dishes that
> are less than one meter (39.37" ) in diameter (or of any size in Alaska), TV
> antennas, and wireless cable antennas. The rule prohibits most restrictions
> that: (1) unreasonably delay or prevent installation, maintenance or use;
> (2) unreasonably increase the cost of installation, maintenance or use; or
> (3) preclude reception of an acceptable quality signal.
>
> Effective January 22, 1999, the Commission amended the rule so that it also
> applies to rental property where the renter has an exclusive use area, such
> as a balcony or patio.
>
>
>
> "Verizon User" <anonymous@anon.com> wrote in message
> news:mDyRc.2579$K82.626@trndny01...
> > 1) I want to get HDTV-- probably a DLP projection.
> >
> > 2)) I currently get cable service with no tuner needed (thus it isn't
> > digital).
> >
> > 3) I am not paying for the service-- it is simply coming through the coax.
> >
> > QUESTION:
> > I want to know if I will be getting any HD signal thru the cable, or is a
> > digital tuner required? I don't have any HD channels (ie the HD movie
> > channels, or HDDiscovery), but there are many programs on CBS, NBC, etc
> > broadcast in HD. Are these channels' HD signal only over the airwaves, or
> > always piped in thru the cable. I am in the Philadelphia market.
> >
> > I can't get an external outdoor antenna because i am in a condo/townhouse
> > that doesn't allow it. I guess a settop antenna is doable, but it may be
> > ugly. I use Lower Merion Comcast Cable.
> >
> > According to the website, comcast offers HD service but they require a
> > Comcast HDTV decoder (whether or not you have a HD-Ready set or not)!
> > What
> > a ripoff-- is this really true?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

That's right. Condo associations can enforce reasonable restrictions
on where you can place a dish, how its' mounted, how big it can be,
etc, but they can't stop you from putting one up.

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"Chet Hayes" <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:b81a861b.0408100546.1bcb96bc@posting.google.com...
> "199.45.49.11" <dogs_pee@bushes.com> wrote in message
news:<AiZRc.9982$BO.4812@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>...
> > First off.........The FCC Regulation regarding outdoor antenna, over
rules
> > your associations rules regarding such. They MUST ALLOW IT!
> >
> >
> > As directed by Congress in Section 207 of the Telecommunications Act of
> > 1996, the Federal Communications Commission adopted the Over-the-Air
> > Reception Devices Rule concerning governmental and nongovernmental
> > restrictions on viewers' ability to receive video programming signals
from
> > direct broadcast satellites ("DBS" ), multichannel multipoint
distribution
> > (wireless cable) providers ("MMDS" ), and television broadcast stations
> > ("TVBS" ).
> >
> > The rule is cited as 47 C.F.R. Section 1.4000 and has been in effect
since
> > October 14, 1996. It prohibits restrictions that impair the
installation,
> > maintenance or use of antennas used to receive video programming. The
rule
> > applies to video antennas including direct-to- home satellite dishes
that
> > are less than one meter (39.37" ) in diameter (or of any size in Alaska),
TV
> > antennas, and wireless cable antennas. The rule prohibits most
restrictions
> > that: (1) unreasonably delay or prevent installation, maintenance or
use;
> > (2) unreasonably increase the cost of installation, maintenance or use;
or
> > (3) preclude reception of an acceptable quality signal.
> >
> > Effective January 22, 1999, the Commission amended the rule so that it
also
> > applies to rental property where the renter has an exclusive use area,
such
> > as a balcony or patio.
>
> That's right. Condo associations can enforce reasonable restrictions
> on where you can place a dish, how its' mounted, how big it can be,
> etc, but they can't stop you from putting one up.

This doesn't help you if you don't have any "exclusive use area" that faces
the right direction or the antenna needs to go on the roof because of
trees/buildings blocking your reception.

Randy R

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