Well, it's been almost 2 months since I've last posted. With the recent drop in computer prices, I'm ready to get a fairly budget minded system.
I'm glad I caught the other post with the coupon for the E6400 for $159 at Microcenter which there happens to be one around 2 miles from where I work in Cincinnati.
So, here goes my current build.
Case/PSU: The Antec Sonata II. It's 65 bucks after MIR and shipping. I know the PSU isn't the greatest but it'll do for awhile until I pay off this system.
I then plan on getting the SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus 550W. I've found it through Froogle for around 90 bucks. Though, the 650W model is around $120. Would it be worth spending the extra 30 bucks when I decide to upgrade the PSU?
CPU: Intel E6400 Core 2 Duo. If it wasn't for the coupon I was going to get the AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (65 W) Winsor just because it was so cheap at $109. I can't pass up spending only another 50 bucks and getting one hell of a processor which I will oc when I get the better PSU.
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3. Was going to get the BFG Tech Nvidia 590 SLI until the deal for the E6400 came along.
Video Card/Memory: There's a combo deal for the Sapphire X1950XT and OCZ ATI Crossfire 2x1GB memory. Plus the MIR for the memory makes it a very good deal.
I'm tired of waiting for the R600 series. And now I hear it's pushed back until April. I'll wait until Vista SP2 comes out before I even plan on touching a new MS OS. I will then worry about getting a DX10 compatible card unless I absolutely need the power of one before then.
HDD: Seagate Barricuda 7200.10 Perpendicular Drive 320GB SATA 3.0GB/s. It just went down by 5 bucks and stand at $90. Great deal.
I already have a DVD recorder, keyboard and mouse from my previous computer. I also have a retail version of WinXP. It's the original, so I'll have a lot of updates to perform through the net.
When I decide to overclock, I will see how much I can get from the stock heatsink. But I hear they are not very good for the Intel chips, so I have the CoolerMaster Hyper TX in mind. It's one of the smaller ones, I have read some good reviews and it's only around 30 bucks which fits the bill.
With all of the MIR, the final cost is around $840. I am also selling my old XP 2400 system for $200. So I'm really getting this for $640.
If anyone has any suggestions (3lfk1ng), please let me know.
Thats a great build. If $30 is your spending point for a new HSF then why not get a Arctic Freezer Pro 7 for $27.74 @ NCIX.com. I know you don't live in Canada but they also ship in the U.S. But I'm sure its cheaper where you live.
As for the PSU, I think that would do fine with your system.
Could you post the prices and any links you can for the stuff you're getting. I'm in the same boat as you, and if you can a great system like yours for under $900, I wanna hear it.
Update: I found this MB at another site for $111 after shipping, here. So, if you want the best deal, I'd go here. I'm just going to go through Newegg anyway since I want to buy all my components through them (except the CPU) in case one of the components is bad and Newegg is great for RMA'ing.
I just got done reading that the R600 is delayed until May. Well, I wouldn't of been able to afford the X2900XTX anyway. And I already read this was the month that the mainstream cards were going to be introduced anyway. I'm glad I decided not to wait any longer.
if you rgoing budget then drop down to the 6300 a small OC will see you to 6400 levels without a problem and savce you $30 you could put towards something else
if you rgoing budget then drop down to the 6300 a small OC will see you to 6400 levels without a problem and savce you $30 you could put towards something else
He has that coupon that brings the price down to 159.99, I haven't seen a Core2duo chip cheaper. (Good find purdueguy!)
You should keep that E6400, if you decide that its not powerful enough just upgrade in a few months when the core2 prices really drop and sell the 6400 on ebay. Looking at the benchmarks the performance difference is not worth double the price. For around $30 the Arctic-Cooling Freezer 7 Pro is a good choice for a cooler. Also your power supply is not that bad,with a little over 21amps on the 12v. rail.
I just built my computer and installed the Artic. I have my stock HSF laying around and would mail that up to you if you want to hold off on spending any more money until you find a deal on the Artic. Shoot me a PM if interested.
If you are willing to spend a little more, the Scythe Ninja Rev.B is highly rated and is on sale at Newegg for 39.99 + 6 shipping. It is quiet for every day use but also very powerful for overclocking in the future.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185038
Sup purdueguy,
Nice to see you again . I'm glad to hear that my previous Athlon Xp buddy is finally upgrading to a Core 2 Duo.... join the crew
Sounds like a really nice build, you cannot beat the DS3 and the E6400 for the price, especially with that coupon.
When you decide to get an after market cooler the CoolerMaster Hyper TX is a great choice from what I have read. Nothing better at that price range really comes to mind besides the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro. Looks like the price has gone up on newegg to a ridiculous amount... Frozencpu has it out of stock for $29.99 and performance-pcs has it in stock for $34.99. Be sure to read the reviews to decide on which one you would prefer.
When you do get a new psu.... look no further than the one that Dario has. Modular, Sleeved, Quiet, 18amps /4 rails =72amps of coverage and everything, it got great reviews and the efficiency is absolutely fantastic.
The 7200.10's are great although you may experience issues trying to get Windows XP Pro to recognize more than 127gb on Seagate drives (I had that issue with mine, and so did my friend on the 7200.10 250gb's) ...if that happens... pm me. Other than that they are great Hard Drives and extremely fast and yet silent.
Your choice of memory and your choice of video card is spot on. The memory has no issues and overclocks really well and the Saphire x1950xt is the best card for the price although some people might consider the reference cooler a little noisy...but I wouldn't worry about it, it's a fantastic card for the price.
Everything looks great, best of luck man, let me know how everything goes.
Thanks for the reply. I was a bit torn to go Intel. Initially, I just wanted to spend a little bit of money which the AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ fit the bill perfectly. $109 with heatsink. Couldn't beat that.
And the BFG Tech Nvidia 680 for $109 seemed like a steal also. I would of picked up the Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro to hopefully get it to overclock to 2.7 or above which would of been a big improvement over my current system as you well know. ;-)
Then I happened to catch the coupon from another thread. I called Microcomputer to ask if the E6400 was OEM or Retail. The boob over the phone told me retail. I went there and it was the OEM part. I was kinda torn but by that time I had already ordered the motherboard from Newegg and decided that I was going to be buying an aftermarket heatsink anyway (not soon but eventually). So this just forced my hand to get one right away.
The one thing I learned about the C2D was that the "pins" aren't really pins. At least in the traditional sense in that pins usually have a length associated to them. I thought this was interesting. Are the new AMD chips the same way?
I always liked the OCZ ATI memory and read a very good article on it before I bought them just to make sure they OC'd well, which like you said, they do.
As far as the PSU is concerned, there might be 72 amps of "coverage" but isn't availability the key? There isn't 72 amps available. The PSU never really specifies the max voltage to the 4 rails but just based on the max wattage across the 5 & 3.3 V is 160 W so this leaves 490W across the 4 12V rails. So, this knocks it down to just over 40 A. And this doesn't count the draw on the other 2 lines which from what I've seen is minimal compared to the others. I hope I did the math right.
But anyway, 40A is still great and the efficiency is also very good. I'll keep this one in mind in the future. Though, I'd like to keep the PSU costs around 80-90 if possible that's why I mentioned the Seasonic 550W S12. Doing a froogle search shows some better prices than Newegg on this PSU.
I guess from what you are saying, I will more than likely have to partition my hard drive 3 times. Sounds like 120/100/100 would be my best choice.
I was going to get the X1950Pro for $160 after MIR but getting the combo price of the memory and X1950XT was too good to pass up.
As far as the cooler is concerned, sillyrabbit was going to send me his retail cooler from his C2D. I'm going to use this for the time being until the ACF7 Pro is available again.
I've read good stuff on both the ACF7 Pro and the CM HTX. I would need to go back to some of them to really understand the difference between them. Though without any real justification (other then the aestetic value that I like better), I'm leaning towards the ACF7 Pro.
Thanks for the input.
I should of bit the bullet and ordered the E6600 from Newegg with the rest of my components. Damn, damn, damn. ;-)
Sup purdueguy,
Nice to see you again . I'm glad to hear that my previous Athlon Xp buddy is finally upgrading to a Core 2 Duo.... join the crew
Sounds like a really nice build, you cannot beat the DS3 and the E6400 for the price, especially with that coupon.
When you decide to get an after market cooler the CoolerMaster Hyper TX is a great choice from what I have read. Nothing better at that price range really comes to mind besides the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro. Looks like the price has gone up on newegg to a ridiculous amount... Frozencpu has it out of stock for $29.99 and performance-pcs has it in stock for $34.99. Be sure to read the reviews to decide on which one you would prefer.
When you do get a new psu.... look no further than the one that Dario has. Modular, Sleeved, Quiet, 18amps /4 rails =72amps of coverage and everything, it got great reviews and the efficiency is absolutely fantastic.
The 7200.10's are great although you may experience issues trying to get Windows XP Pro to recognize more than 127gb on Seagate drives (I had that issue with mine, and so did my friend on the 7200.10 250gb's) ...if that happens... pm me. Other than that they are great Hard Drives and extremely fast and yet silent.
Your choice of memory and your choice of video card is spot on. The memory has no issues and overclocks really well and the Saphire x1950xt is the best card for the price although some people might consider the reference cooler a little noisy...but I wouldn't worry about it, it's a fantastic card for the price.
Everything looks great, best of luck man, let me know how everything goes.
~3lfk1ng
Er.
What's the problem with more than 127GB on Seagate drives, specifically? Last I checked, all you needed, regardless of brand, was XP SP2, a BIOS that supports 48-bit LBA, and a controller that supports 48-bit LBA, which any SATA controller, even on the motherboard, most certainly should, and every new IDE controller does now too.
Not a big problem, install as you normally would. Get the drivers in and everything going, then go to the net and XP will d/l the needed updates. Be prepared for a few resets and restarts as sometimes you have upgrade in steps. I hope you have a fast net, on dial up this could take all day. If you have a MS Disk they used to send the upgrades by mail for a small fee.