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Gaming Setup on a Budget, what do you recommend?

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February 22, 2007 4:53:28 PM

Here is my old Set UP: (which I would have to sell)

CPU: AMD XP 2500+

MoBo: ASUS A7N8X -E Deluxe

RAM: 2GB (1GB x 2) PC3200 Kingston

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon X800pro 256mb

Hard Drive: 80GB 7200rpm 8mb cache Western Digital EIDE


Hopefully I can sell the parts above for around $350



and here is what I was looking it, kinda cheap:



CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+(65W) Windsor 2.0GHz Socket AM2 $109

MoBo: ASUS M2N-E Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 Ultra MCP ATX AMD Motherboard $95

RAM: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) $167

Video Card: SAPPHIRE 100186L Radeon X1950XT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 VIVO HDCP $200


So all this new parts would come out to $580 including the shipping and Mail-In rebates.

And so, hopefully, if I sell the aprts above, my investment won't be over $300 that is around all I can spare.
February 22, 2007 5:07:24 PM

I would get a 1950pro instead and invest the money on a better cpu.
February 22, 2007 5:13:38 PM

ok, say I go with a 1950pro, I can save $50 on newegg by picking that one.
with the extra $50 which CPU woould you recommend?

(all prices listed are newegg)
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February 22, 2007 5:20:57 PM

The 4000+ Brisbane. Or the E4300.
February 22, 2007 5:22:53 PM

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The 4000+ Brisbane. Or the E4300.


how does the e4300 compare against the e6300?
February 22, 2007 5:26:11 PM

There pretty much the same, performance wise, the E6300 is faster by like 5-7%.
February 22, 2007 5:38:12 PM

ok, so the setup could then look something like this:



CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 Allendale 1.8GHz LGA 775$170

MoBo: ASUS P5N-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX $130

RAM: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) $167

Video Card: SAPPHIRE 100176L Radeon X1950PRO 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP $150

total would be $623
February 22, 2007 5:48:57 PM

That looks good, although i would get this mobo instead, saves $25.
February 22, 2007 5:52:55 PM

Why not get an AGP version of the X1950 Pro and just add that to your current system?

For around $200 you can continue to use your old hardware for another 12-18 months. You aren't going to get more than about $150 for your current setup, and the performance you gain by spending $600 isn't going to be astounding versus just purchasing the video card on its own.

Here is a link to an article that uses your CPU with an X1950 AGP:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/10/agp-platform-ana...
February 22, 2007 7:05:44 PM

Quote:
Why not get an AGP version of the X1950 Pro and just add that to your current system?

For around $200 you can continue to use your old hardware for another 12-18 months. You aren't going to get more than about $150 for your current setup, and the performance you gain by spending $600 isn't going to be astounding versus just purchasing the video card on its own.

Here is a link to an article that uses your CPU with an X1950 AGP:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/10/agp-platform-ana...


because I dont think my current vid card is the bottleneck on my system, rather the cpu.
My card gets good scores in Vista but not the cpu
February 22, 2007 7:07:38 PM

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That looks good, although i would get this mobo instead, saves $25.


it does look nice, altough Ive always but either ASUS or MSI mobos, the one time I bought an ECS didnt turn out so good. I would rather use one of the first 2.
February 23, 2007 3:15:25 PM

should I wait for the DX10 cards that cost around $150 coming out in March? or will this radeon x1950pro be good enough?
February 23, 2007 3:53:36 PM

I agree wait until april price cuts.
Save money on cpu if not mobo and GPU also.
February 23, 2007 4:19:24 PM

P5NSLI, this is a budget gamer board. Has onboard sound and Gigabit LAN. Not a good board for overclocking from what I have read, then again, I have not read that you are interested in OC.

I own this board, it's a cheap entry point into SLI, but I have had no complaints so far.
February 23, 2007 4:43:50 PM

A very crude generalization is if the cpu is at least dual core (and so reduces system overhead to negligible), and the graphics are decent (like any of the graphic mentioned), then roughly speaking putting extra money into the graphics card pays better than extra money into the cpu for a gaming computer.

It's a good strategy to put even twice or more the money into the graphics, even a $300 card with the $110 3800, IMO, if you don't mind doing a modest, easy overclock 2.2 Ghz. This overemphasis on graphics pays up to the point where you finally get up to a big enough difference like an 8800 GTS vs an X2 3800, for example, which would be too much. But less difference than this is fine for gaming.

So the advice to cut the graphics card down for a better dual core isn't good advice for gaming at the levels mentioned.
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