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February 22, 2007 9:35:24 PM

many answers needed::


- i have the antec p180 case, and an antec truepower trio power supply...
when you try to fit the power cables through their little duct that keeps out the heat, do you want to put all of them in the upper area of the chassis?
also, it seems too me that all of the wires will barely fit. is it supposed to be like that, or is it jsut because my power supply has a lot of connectors?

-im thinking of having an e6400 or an e6420 in this build. this "class" that im in is giving us 600 dollars to "build your own computer". im going to be adding $700 of my own money to make this a gaming pc. is there any way to build a stable pc for 600 AND include a possible e6300/6400/4300 witha gigabyte ds3/s3 (which i assume is the best budget c2d oc'ing board?)

-im not sure if i would need to do this or not, but, do yyou think i will have to flash the BIOS? i have no clue how to do this, so any guides would be helpful.

-would you recommend using 667mhz or 800mhz mem? i know 800mhz oc's better, but if im most likely going to be on a stock cooler, is it even worht the extra money? im still not even sure if i want to oc.
although they do sell quality 800 mhz ram for 170 ish dollars (2 gigs of course) i know that some RAM doesnt work with the ds3/s3.

-im going to get either the 8600U or the 8800gts 320 meg for my build.
im assuming the 8600U will be out before mid-april (when we are actaully building it) which would you recommend for a computer on this $1200-$1300 (including monitor, mouse/keyboard etc)?
im only afraid that if i get the 8600U, that it wont work well with a 20 inch widescreen monitor (1680 x 1080) playing even old games at highest textures/AA and AF? or should i get a 19 inch widescreen, or 19 inch 4:3 regular (1280 x 1024)

-should i get 1 or 2 dvd burners?

-should i add more 120mm fans to my antec p180 case? it seems to already be nicely cooled...but u never know.

-do :gaming" mouses really make that much or a difference, or should i jsut get a wired/wireless microsoft set?


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in wrapping up my extremely noobish, prolonged topic, i jsut want to know if a COMPLETE build for $1200-$1300 that fits all my needs is possible (with the 8600U or 8800gts)

i would really appreciate replies, and, again, srry for the long post@@@

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February 22, 2007 10:12:21 PM

Sorry if I get something wrong, I didn't read the whole post, but this should get you started

OCZ 600W GameXStream
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681... $115

GIGABYTE GA-965P-S3 LGA 775 Intel P965

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681... $110

E6400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681... $222

2GB G.Skill DDR800 4-4-3-5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682... $200

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) 250GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682... $75

LITE-ON 20X DVD+R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682... $34

Centurion 5- Great Case, Have it myself love it
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681... $40

EVGA 8800GTS 320MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681... $280

Total: $1076
February 22, 2007 10:14:57 PM

I got an evga 680i mobo with an e6600 core 2 duo for $455 and 2 gigs of ocz xtc gold ram for $99. This was a special at Fry's electronics a while back so maybe at some other big electronics store you can find the same type of deal. Depending on what you have already, $800 should be enough for everything else. Make sure you get a good case that'll have enough fans to cool everything.
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February 22, 2007 11:02:26 PM

Quote:

- i have the antec p180 case, and an antec truepower trio power supply...
when you try to fit the power cables through their little duct that keeps out the heat, do you want to put all of them in the upper area of the chassis?
also, it seems too me that all of the wires will barely fit. is it supposed to be like that, or is it jsut because my power supply has a lot of connectors?


I have the same case - I only brought the cables I needed into the upper area. You should be able to tuck the cables behind the PSU in the lower section. They would then be out of the way, and barely visible when you look into the case. I hope that this is clear.

Quote:

-im thinking of having an e6400 or an e6420 in this build. this "class" that im in is giving us 600 dollars to "build your own computer". im going to be adding $700 of my own money to make this a gaming pc. is there any way to build a stable pc for 600 AND include a possible e6300/6400/4300 witha gigabyte ds3/s3 (which i assume is the best budget c2d oc'ing board?)


My suggestion is to get the E6400. Good bang for the buck. This class you are in - are you being evaluated on your build? Are you supposed to build it for $700? I am not clear on why you are building this for a class - though this might not be pertinent.

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-im not sure if i would need to do this or not, but, do you think i will have to flash the BIOS? i have no clue how to do this, so any guides would be helpful.


You will likely have to flash the bios at some time. Possibly when you power up for the first time. Possibly not. Knowing the Motherboard vender would be good - though most of the newer MBs can be flashed from a USB thumb drive.


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-would you recommend using 667mhz or 800mhz mem? i know 800mhz oc's better, but if im most likely going to be on a stock cooler, is it even worht the extra money? im still not even sure if i want to oc.
although they do sell quality 800 mhz ram for 170 ish dollars (2 gigs of course) i know that some RAM doesnt work with the ds3/s3.


I would spend the extra cash and get the 800mhz - just me. You would be fine either way, you would just have better options for overclocking with the better memory. The stock cooler is fine for modest over clocks - however you will need to get something better for anything more. The AC Freezer Pro 7 is good middle of the road for cooling and price - there are other better coolers - but this one is sufficient for me.

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-im going to get either the 8600U or the 8800gts 320 meg for my build.
im assuming the 8600U will be out before mid-april (when we are actaully building it) which would you recommend for a computer on this $1200-$1300 (including monitor, mouse/keyboard etc)?
im only afraid that if i get the 8600U, that it wont work well with a 20 inch widescreen monitor (1680 x 1080) playing even old games at highest textures/AA and AF? or should i get a 19 inch widescreen, or 19 inch 4:3 regular (1280 x 1024)


Go for the GTS - 20 or 19 inch is your call.

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-should i get 1 or 2 dvd burners?


One for now - buy a second later if you think you need it. Funny how that works.

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-should i add more 120mm fans to my antec p180 case? it seems to already be nicely cooled...but u never know.


Don't worry now about extra fans - it is a good solid case with plenty of airflow.

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-do :gaming" mouses really make that much or a difference, or should i jsut get a wired/wireless microsoft set?


Yes they do make a difference.


Cheers.
February 22, 2007 11:04:46 PM

Feathersome,

Might even think about putting him into the E4300!!

If he is going to OC or learn to OC then that is the current bang for the buck...

Could save a few dollars over the 6400 and also put money into a 8800GTS at that point..

Dell is having great deals on their 22" Widescreen LCD (gotapex.com for coupon codes).

The reason for the E4300 recommendation is the multiplier and the 1:1 possible on the OC.
February 22, 2007 11:11:17 PM

Yeah the E4300 is definitely an option, though I have heard mixed results. I figure if the OC doesn't go all that well, or you only get a marginal overclock the E6400 would work better...
February 23, 2007 5:01:01 PM

I already got the P180 for $80 and the Antec Truepower Trio 650 watt for $60.

Taking that into account, can anyone put together a full system with EVRYTHING?

Yeah the class is for less fortunate kids in the small city nearby.
Im not poor, but I',m in the class basically because they are giving away 600 bucks to build a comp with, so i dont wanna go in there with fukkin an 8800gts, when these kids have inetgrated sh!t.
Do you think they could fit an e6300 and s3 into a 600 dollar budget?>

Even though i know how to build a comp, or Oc it, ive never done either before, and the guy there has, so its kinda reassurance.

but basically im getin 600 bucks free

when would, say, a 250-300 AFR geforce 8900 gts come out?>

we are going to be building at the end of march till the end of april

im not sure if i will OC, as i want this computer to be stable, and last awhile, and im noob at BIOS, ive never been in it

so, jsut give me any tips, or w/e u want

thanks

CAN I GET A BUMP!!!! PLZ
February 25, 2007 5:13:25 PM

anyone?
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