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NeilV   02-23-2007 at 04:21:31 PM

Hi All
A friend of mine is building a media centre pc & has used a ASROCK MOBO with a nVidia 6100 onboard graphics card but asked my advice on the availability of a small (physical dimensions), cool (low heat producing), efficient (low power consumption), good graphics card. I have been trying to find him a Laptop card as I had heard of a nVidia 7600GS mobile, but I can't find one anywhere. Does anyone have any suggestions. I ahve seen a passive cooled 7600GS but this may be to big for the V.small case.

All contributions (thoughts not cash) gratefully accepted.

NeilV

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Cleeve   02-23-2007 at 04:52:21 PM
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You can't use a laptop card in a desktop.

What does he plan to do with his computer? If it's games, the recommendation for a cool, efficient card would be the Geforce 7600 GS.

If it's just regular internet use/video/typing, you could probably get something cheaper like a Radeon X300 or something.

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SEALBoy   02-23-2007 at 05:01:28 PM
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Like Cleeve said, you won't be able to use a mobile graphics card; but then again, you shouldn't need to.

What's your budget? Here is a passively cooled X1300 that you can look into. It's around $30 cheaper than a 7600GS, but slower in games. Should be fine for non-game use though.

If you want to stick with a 7600GS, this one here seems good.

This X1650Pro is a bit more expensive, but the MIR brings its price down to around the 7600GS. It'll offer the best gaming performance out of these cards.

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Cleeve   02-23-2007 at 05:09:33 PM
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Yeah, the X1650 PRO is a good gaming budget card, but I left it out because it'll use up more power than a 7600 GS.

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NeilV   02-23-2007 at 05:13:15 PM
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Thanks for that. I use an AGP version of the 7600GS myself and didn't want my bias to influence his decision. I was of the opinion that the card will produce the same amount of heat in to the case whether it is passive or fan cooled but obviously his power consumption will be higher for a fan cooled card. He is limited in that he only has a 200W PSU.

I think he will play mid-range games.

Thanks for your help.

NeilV

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Cleeve   02-23-2007 at 05:15:50 PM
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200w PSU? Ouch.

If he crashes alot after getting the new card, it's because the PSU can't handle it...

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Sidonas   02-23-2007 at 05:34:06 PM
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I think 200w PSU will not handle a 7600gs.. On mine 7600gs box they wrote that it needs a minimum of 400-450w PSU...

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SEALBoy   02-23-2007 at 05:45:58 PM
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Whoa, 200W? They haven't used those since Pentium 1.

You'll need a new PSU. Atleast 350W, go for 400.

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rodney_ws   02-23-2007 at 06:16:30 PM
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I think 200w PSU will not handle a 7600gs.. On mine 7600gs box they wrote that it needs a minimum of 400-450w PSU...


I believe you, but I think the box lied. Maybe they just chose that range in order to accommodate all the off-brand PSUs that advertise those types of ratings without actually being able to back up their specifications with real world output. I just refuse to believe you'd need at minimum a 400w PSU to drive a 7600gs... that just doesn't add up.

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MrCommunistGen   02-23-2007 at 07:37:03 PM
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He may be stuck using a SFF PSU or at least a MicoATX. You can't find really high wattage PSUs in these categories. I was trying to shoehorn a PC into a VCR a couple of years ago and I was looking for a MicroATX PSU... low output and big price. That and several other technical difficulties killed the project.

-mcg

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Sidonas   02-23-2007 at 07:42:23 PM
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Well yeah.. When i bought my pc i didn't knew that PSU is a really important part of it. And my 350w codegen cant handle my 7600gs really good.. System is stable but GPU performance drops while playing 3d games...

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rodney_ws   02-23-2007 at 09:02:35 PM
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Well yeah.. When i bought my pc i didn't knew that PSU is a really important part of it. And my 350w codegen cant handle my 7600gs really good.. System is stable but GPU performance drops while playing 3d games...


Someone please back me up on this... this poster does not have a PSU problem. If his PSU were not outputting sufficient power, he would have system stability issues, but that's not his problem... if his GPU performance is dropping while playing 3D games, that sounds like a throttling issue due to heat build-up.

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Cleeve   02-23-2007 at 09:36:10 PM
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I don't think the OP mentioned having a stability problem, did he?

He's just suggesting a card for his friend.

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rodney_ws   02-24-2007 at 01:33:36 AM
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Sorry Cleeve... not the original poster. I was replying to Sidonas.

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Cleeve   02-24-2007 at 08:52:51 AM
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Ah! My mistake. :)

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Sidonas   02-24-2007 at 02:27:40 PM
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I don't think it's throotling problem.. It never goes over 55 degrees in celcius.. im talking about GPU core.. :roll:

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Sidonas   02-24-2007 at 02:30:29 PM
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I don't think it's for temperature issue.. It never goes over 55 degrees in celcius.. im talking about GPU core.. :roll:

Sorry for double :(

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