Windows 2000 ATAPI.SYS on Windows NT?

[Guest]

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Anyone know if the Windows 2000 ATAPI.SYS will work on Windows NT? I need
an ATAPI.SYS that can select DMA per-device instead of per channel.

Thanks,
Paul DS.

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[Guest]

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Paul D.Smith wrote:

> Anyone know if the Windows 2000 ATAPI.SYS will work on Windows NT? I need
> an ATAPI.SYS that can select DMA per-device instead of per channel.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul DS.
>
> --
> Please remove the "x-" if replying to sender.
>
>

It will not work.

 

[Guest]

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Sounds like you speak from experience. I'm trying to find a way or using a
non-DMA capable and DMA capable device on the same IDE channel. Any ideas
as to how I might achieve this? What seems to happen at the moment is that
(I suspect) the driver tries to use DMA with everything.

Paul DS.

"Rob Stow" <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote in message
news:uwUAwV$GEHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Paul D.Smith wrote:
>
> > Anyone know if the Windows 2000 ATAPI.SYS will work on Windows NT? I
need
> > an ATAPI.SYS that can select DMA per-device instead of per channel.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Paul DS.
> >
> > --
> > Please remove the "x-" if replying to sender.
> >
> >
>
> It will not work.

 

[Rick]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.setup,microsoft.public.win2000.hardware (More info?)

Well, the obvious solution (if upgrading from NT isn't an option)
would be to install a separate inexpensive IDE controller. Just
make sure the manufacturer still has available NT drivers.

Rick

"Paul D.Smith" <paul_d_smith@x-hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4073b1da$0$6551$ed9e5944@reading.news.pipex.net...
> Sounds like you speak from experience. I'm trying to find a way or using a
> non-DMA capable and DMA capable device on the same IDE channel. Any ideas
> as to how I might achieve this? What seems to happen at the moment is that
> (I suspect) the driver tries to use DMA with everything.
>
> Paul DS.
>
> "Rob Stow" <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote in message
> news:uwUAwV$GEHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Paul D.Smith wrote:
> >
> > > Anyone know if the Windows 2000 ATAPI.SYS will work on Windows NT? I
> need
> > > an ATAPI.SYS that can select DMA per-device instead of per channel.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Paul DS.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Please remove the "x-" if replying to sender.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > It will not work.
>
>

 

[Guest]

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Paul D.Smith wrote:
> Sounds like you speak from experience. I'm trying to find a way or using a
> non-DMA capable and DMA capable device on the same IDE channel. Any ideas
> as to how I might achieve this? What seems to happen at the moment is that
> (I suspect) the driver tries to use DMA with everything.
>
> Paul DS.

Take a look at
http://nt4ref.zcm.com.au/dmahdd.htm

If that helps you out, go to m.p.windowsnt.misc
and say thank you to Calvin.


>
> "Rob Stow" <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote in message
> news:uwUAwV$GEHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>>Paul D.Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Anyone know if the Windows 2000 ATAPI.SYS will work on Windows NT? I
>
> need
>
>>>an ATAPI.SYS that can select DMA per-device instead of per channel.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Paul DS.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Please remove the "x-" if replying to sender.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>It will not work.
>
>
>

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.setup,microsoft.public.win2000.hardware (More info?)

I did consider that but Windows NT ATAPI.SYS only supports 2 IDE channels.
I already have 4 devices on 2 channels i.e. fully populated.

Paul DS.

 

[Guest]

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Paul D.Smith wrote:

> I did consider that but Windows NT ATAPI.SYS only supports 2 IDE channels.
> I already have 4 devices on 2 channels i.e. fully populated.
>
> Paul DS.
>
>

I have had no problems using either 4-port PCI-IDE cards from Promise
or an 8 port card from 3Ware with NT4 to create things like CD towers
or storage towers with IDE drives for on-line backup of other machines.

The Promise cards needed no drivers unless you wanted RAID, but
the 3Ware one needed drivers even without RAID.

And if, for example, you install a 2 port PCI-IDE card, you can also
simply connect everything to that card and disable the motherboard's
IDE ports. I have done that with a lot of older systems where the
motherboard BIOS did not support large hard drives.

 

[Guest]

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Rob,

Thanks for this link but unfortunately there is nothing there that I hadn't
already found. I think the issue is purely with the ATAPI.SYS driver for NT
where the DMA-capability is per-channel and the driver does not cope with
one device DMA capable and another not on a single channel.

BTW, I've replied to your other suggestion separately.

Paul DS


"Rob Stow" <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote in message
news:u2jtE1LHEHA.688@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Paul D.Smith wrote:
> > Sounds like you speak from experience. I'm trying to find a way or
using a
> > non-DMA capable and DMA capable device on the same IDE channel. Any
ideas
> > as to how I might achieve this? What seems to happen at the moment is
that
> > (I suspect) the driver tries to use DMA with everything.
> >
> > Paul DS.
>
> Take a look at
> http://nt4ref.zcm.com.au/dmahdd.htm
>
> If that helps you out, go to m.p.windowsnt.misc
> and say thank you to Calvin.
>
>
> >
> > "Rob Stow" <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote in message
> > news:uwUAwV$GEHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >
> >>Paul D.Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Anyone know if the Windows 2000 ATAPI.SYS will work on Windows NT? I
> >
> > need
> >
> >>>an ATAPI.SYS that can select DMA per-device instead of per channel.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Paul DS.
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Please remove the "x-" if replying to sender.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>It will not work.
> >
> >
> >