Reason Olympics Opening Ceremony Delayed 1 hour?

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Donno - but there is a national HD feed (CH-148 on Dish) that is on a 5
hour delay. I wonder why no real time as well. Eeeesh.

Clark wrote:
> Anyone know why the HD presentation is delayed 1 hour on NBC? Are they
> converting something or does it take longer to transmitt?
>
> Thanks,
> Clark
>
>

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darn they are delaying the directv olympics by a whole day
End higher ticket prices! Go to local college games!

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Daniel Barton (danielmbarton@yahoo.com) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
> I don't know either. But the feed isn't identical to the
> standard feed. Some of the camera angles are different and
> they are using different announcers.

I hate to bring up the fact that NBC's 24/7 HD Olympics on their digital
channels violates FCC regs if they don't have another sub-channel showing
the "regular" programming.

Stations at full power on digital are required to have a large percentage
of their digital and analog be the same content...large enough so that
just a few hours a day matching won't cut it.

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Daniel Barton <danielmbarton@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Why on earth can't NBC find more than 2 HD commercials? The
>Sony one was played at least 15 times and the Greek montage
>at least 5. I got tired of counting them!
>
>Daniel

And the Sony commercial isn't even HD. Just widescreen SD. Same sort
of thing PBS runs half the time on their "HD" feed.

I'm not sure, but it also looked to me as though a few of the cameras
they're using aren't HD either. Or maybe they just weren't quite in
focus.

Del Mibbler <mibbler@nycap.rr.com>

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Well it looks they are going to repeatly show the opening ceremonies until 3
am Sunday morning. Then it looks like some delayed events start. Seems
like a 24 hour delay.

Clark

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Though I didn't see 2002 Winter Olymptics in HD, but if it was like
what we are seeing this summer as you said, then I didn't miss much.
What a disappointment!

When can they produce eveything in HD and downconvert for the other
viewers?
It is a hard choice to make when we are forced to pick between good
pictures vs. good contents.


Ernie Wright <erniew@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<QZudnfIzD7fKx4PcRVn-ig@comcast.com>...
> It appears that NBC has learned absolutely nothing since the Salt Lake
> City HD broadcast in 2002, which suffered from precisely the same
> problems: limited, day-late coverage, amateurish production, B-team
> commentary, superfluous, repetitious filler...the coverage is more like
> an HD demo than the broadcast of an actual event.
>
> - Ernie http://home.comcast.net/~erniew

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Caloonese (caloonese@yahoo.com) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
> It is a hard choice to make when we are forced to pick between good
> pictures vs. good contents.

The worst part is choosing between watching some "important" event live
(or close to live) on SD or waiting over 24 hours (after you almost
certainly know the outcome) for HD.

If ABC can put 20+ HD cameras at the SuperBowl (along with 20 more SD
cameras), all with full special effects available, then you'd think NBC
could put 5 HD cameras on each of 4 events at the Olympics, and fill in
with some SD. I'd much rather have no delay in the HD and live with a
few SD shots thrown in.

As it is, I probably won't watch even a minute of HD Olympics.

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"Ernie Wright" <erniew@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> It appears that NBC has learned absolutely nothing since the Salt Lake
> City HD broadcast in 2002, which suffered from precisely the same
> problems: limited, day-late coverage, amateurish production, B-team
> commentary, superfluous, repetitious filler...the coverage is more like
> an HD demo than the broadcast of an actual event.

I would have to agree. NBC is currently showing event coverage
on HD that I already saw yesterday of SD. I have switched to SD
as it is obvious that NBC does not know what they are doing
when it comes to HD. There should be no reason for them to
be showing different coverage on SD versus HD.

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Jeff Rife wrote:
> ...
> As it is, I probably won't watch even a minute of HD Olympics.

Hi Jeff,

This means that any Olympics that you do watch (in SD) will include the
commercials associated with that broadcast. I think that is precisely
the reason for the delay. The Olympics are NOT an event being simulcast
in SD and HD - as, for example, Monday Night Football IS!

The Olympics are actually TWO different broadcasts with different video,
different talking heads, and DIFFERENT sponsors - and certainly
different potential viewing audiences.

If you and I were one of the sponsors of the (SD) Olympics I suspect the
idea that the network was providing a competing product that could do
nothing but reduce the size of our potential viewing audience would not
sit well with us - and the demographics of that "lost" HD audience would
include, I suspect, greater disposable income, etc.

IMHO this is the reason for the delay between the SD version and the HD
version of the Olympics.

Jerry

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Mark Jones wrote:


> ...There should be no reason for them to
> be showing different coverage on SD versus HD.

Mark,

This would seem true if it were not for the significant costs associated
with replacing all of the cameras and electronics for ALL cameras at all
venues. Heck, with "small" sporting events like Monday Night Football
it is taking a long time to get from "lots of HD" to "total HD."

I assume with time that we'll see events like this shot with hD
equipment and transmitted as HD as well as SD - until SD is phased out.

Jerry

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Ernie Wright <erniew@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<QZudnfIzD7fKx4PcRVn-ig@comcast.com>...

> It appears that NBC has learned absolutely nothing since the Salt Lake
> City HD broadcast in 2002, which suffered from precisely the same
> problems: limited, day-late coverage, amateurish production, B-team
> commentary, superfluous, repetitious filler...the coverage is more like
> an HD demo than the broadcast of an actual event.

I could not have said it better myself. Clearly NBCs HD coverage for
the Olympics is simply being used by the network as OTJ training for
their minor-league staff and some interns.

How hard would it be to put HD cameras in the same venues as the SD
cameras and broadcast the A-team announcers with Grade-A Video footage
on the HD feed while broadcasting the SAME A-team announcers with good
SD-footage for the normal feed?

And then yes, PLEASE upscan the SD advertisements so we don't have to
endure chips and salsa any more. Jeez.

What an incredible joke this is. NBC is a laughingstock.

-Laird

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"LCW" <laird@l-n-l.com> wrote in message
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> I could not have said it better myself. Clearly NBCs HD coverage for
> the Olympics is simply being used by the network as OTJ training for
> their minor-league staff and some interns.
>
> How hard would it be to put HD cameras in the same venues as the SD
> cameras and broadcast the A-team announcers with Grade-A Video footage
> on the HD feed while broadcasting the SAME A-team announcers with good
> SD-footage for the normal feed?
>
> And then yes, PLEASE upscan the SD advertisements so we don't have to
> endure chips and salsa any more. Jeez.
>
> What an incredible joke this is. NBC is a laughingstock.
They need to hire someone who has a clue. They certainly
don't have a clue at this point.

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Ernie Wright wrote:

> ... There's no replacement involved.

Err, there clearly IS!

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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Daniel Barton wrote:
> Why on earth can't NBC find more than 2 HD commercials? The
> Sony one was played at least 15 times and the Greek montage
> at least 5. I got tired of counting them!

I'm glad that they can find only a few advertisements. Now, if we could only
get them to play them less frequently, that means MORE PROGRAM for us. ;-)

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Jsheldon (jsheldonNOTTTHIS@his.com) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
> The point is that they want the HD version to be delayed re the SD
> version. Real time has nothing to do with it.

The actual point is that NBC doesn't have a clue. There is no good reason
for them to "want the HD version to be delayed" in *any* way.

Since the SD version is delayed already, NBC can't use the "it's hard to
produce HD" excuse.

And, since every other network seems to be able to do simulcasts of events
with many HD cameras, NBC shouldn't have any problem.

The worst part of this is that unlike the Super Bowl, with the Olympics,
we are stuck for many years with a network that just doesn't understand
how to do live events. The Super Bowl keeps getting better precisely
because each network wants to "one-up" the last one...every year there is
at least some improvement. Meanwhile, NBC hasn't gotten any better even
though they have have 4 years to plan this.

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Garth (garth09@rcn.com) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
> In Chicago, we are getting 24/7 HD coverage of the Olympics with
> minimal commercial interruption.

Are you getting a different feed than everyone else? We are getting an
8/7 feed repeated 3 times each day.

> They
> can't be making a penny from the HD coverage they are providing on
> their DTV channels.

And ABC didn't make any extra money from the HDTV presentation of the
Super Bowl, nor will Fox, CBS, and ABC make any extra money from the HD
broadcasts of the NFL regular season games, etc. Yet, we get all those
with the "first string" announcers and no delay compared to the SD
version.

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