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May 3, 2004 9:40:48 PM

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When I hit Ctrl Alt Delte (and then enter password), the
system looks like it is starting up (ie you here the
welcome music & see the wallpaper briefly, no icons, BUT
then, goes right back to the Ctrl Alt Delte logon screen.
Its like the logon process is caught in a loop??

I tried logon into "safe mode" but the same loop keeps
occuring. I know my password and domain are correct so
why is this "looping" back to logon screen?

Please help ASAP as this is my laptop and I am SOL without
it!

thanks
Mike

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Anonymous
May 3, 2004 11:03:14 PM

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This sounds like one of two things; the drive letter has change from
original install, or the drive permissions have changed.

Unable to Log on if the Boot Partition Drive Letter Has Changed
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q249/3...

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Microsoft Certified Professional
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"Michael" wrote:
| When I hit Ctrl Alt Delte (and then enter password), the
| system looks like it is starting up (ie you here the
| welcome music & see the wallpaper briefly, no icons, BUT
| then, goes right back to the Ctrl Alt Delte logon screen.
| Its like the logon process is caught in a loop??
|
| I tried logon into "safe mode" but the same loop keeps
| occuring. I know my password and domain are correct so
| why is this "looping" back to logon screen?
|
| Please help ASAP as this is my laptop and I am SOL without
| it!
|
| thanks
| Mike
Anonymous
May 4, 2004 2:21:26 PM

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I'm having the same problem too. The setup on the Win2000 Server was done
using the CD provided by HP. Halfway thru the HP installation, it prompts
for the Win2K Server CD.

My supplier told me that using this method actually makes the installation
faster, ie, first it creates a Fat32 partition, copies all windows
installation files into the Fat32 partition and run Windows setup from this
partition. After Windows setup is completed, it converts the FAT32 into an
NTFS system.

Probably it was a retarded HP installation CD. I'm on the 11th time
installation due to this (suspect), and if nothing works, I'm going to
install Windows the ole' fashion way.
--
Steven Ung
"The source of all greatness lies within you" - Anonymous
"Dave Patrick" <mail@NoSpam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message
news:u6dwVOXMEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> This sounds like one of two things; the drive letter has change from
> original install, or the drive permissions have changed.
>
> Unable to Log on if the Boot Partition Drive Letter Has Changed
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q249/3...
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "Michael" wrote:
> | When I hit Ctrl Alt Delte (and then enter password), the
> | system looks like it is starting up (ie you here the
> | welcome music & see the wallpaper briefly, no icons, BUT
> | then, goes right back to the Ctrl Alt Delte logon screen.
> | Its like the logon process is caught in a loop??
> |
> | I tried logon into "safe mode" but the same loop keeps
> | occuring. I know my password and domain are correct so
> | why is this "looping" back to logon screen?
> |
> | Please help ASAP as this is my laptop and I am SOL without
> | it!
> |
> | thanks
> | Mike
>
>
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Anonymous
May 4, 2004 2:21:27 PM

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Yes, that's what I would do. That HP method sounds rather idiotic. If you
use the Windows NT/ 2000 convert.exe utility to convert an existing fat16/
32 partition to NTFS, you'll end up with 512 byte clusters which is less
efficient, slower, and more prone to fragmentation. The overhead of
traversing a greater number of clusters to retrieve and commit data will
result in a degradation in file system (or disk I/O) performance.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


"Steven Ung" wrote:
| I'm having the same problem too. The setup on the Win2000 Server was done
| using the CD provided by HP. Halfway thru the HP installation, it prompts
| for the Win2K Server CD.
|
| My supplier told me that using this method actually makes the installation
| faster, ie, first it creates a Fat32 partition, copies all windows
| installation files into the Fat32 partition and run Windows setup from
this
| partition. After Windows setup is completed, it converts the FAT32 into an
| NTFS system.
|
| Probably it was a retarded HP installation CD. I'm on the 11th time
| installation due to this (suspect), and if nothing works, I'm going to
| install Windows the ole' fashion way.
| --
| Steven Ung
| "The source of all greatness lies within you" - Anonymous
Anonymous
May 4, 2004 2:21:28 PM

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And what user rights will you end up with after you run
convert.exe - everyone everything on the server? It's a
mess to get all rights fixed afterwards.
R.I.P. such HP setup systems.

Cheers & Peace
EBE

>-----Original Message-----
>Yes, that's what I would do. That HP method sounds rather
idiotic. If you
>use the Windows NT/ 2000 convert.exe utility to convert
an existing fat16/
>32 partition to NTFS, you'll end up with 512 byte
clusters which is less
>efficient, slower, and more prone to fragmentation. The
overhead of
>traversing a greater number of clusters to retrieve and
commit data will
>result in a degradation in file system (or disk I/O)
performance.
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in
newsgroup.
>Microsoft Certified Professional
>Microsoft MVP [Windows]
>http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
>"Steven Ung" wrote:
>| I'm having the same problem too. The setup on the
Win2000 Server was done
>| using the CD provided by HP. Halfway thru the HP
installation, it prompts
>| for the Win2K Server CD.
>|
>| My supplier told me that using this method actually
makes the installation
>| faster, ie, first it creates a Fat32 partition, copies
all windows
>| installation files into the Fat32 partition and run
Windows setup from
>this
>| partition. After Windows setup is completed, it
converts the FAT32 into an
>| NTFS system.
>|
>| Probably it was a retarded HP installation CD. I'm on
the 11th time
>| installation due to this (suspect), and if nothing
works, I'm going to
>| install Windows the ole' fashion way.
>| --
>| Steven Ung
>| "The source of all greatness lies within you" -
Anonymous
>
>
>.
>
Anonymous
May 4, 2004 2:21:29 PM

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This article may help with that one but I wouldn't suggest installing the OS
only to turn around and use convert.exe. See my comments above.
How to Restore the Default NTFS Permissions for Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=266118


--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


"EmptyBetweenEars" wrote:
| And what user rights will you end up with after you run
| convert.exe - everyone everything on the server? It's a
| mess to get all rights fixed afterwards.
| R.I.P. such HP setup systems.
|
| Cheers & Peace
| EBE
Anonymous
May 5, 2004 12:51:34 PM

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Well, that link will help if you can login. I can't login using the Admin
account at all. What really bothers me is that HP support Engineer doesn't
know anything about this. Perhaps I'm barking on the wrong tree?

--
Steven Ung
"The source of all greatness lies within you" - Anonymous

"Dave Patrick" <mail@NoSpam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message
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> This article may help with that one but I wouldn't suggest installing the
OS
> only to turn around and use convert.exe. See my comments above.
> How to Restore the Default NTFS Permissions for Windows 2000
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=266118
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "EmptyBetweenEars" wrote:
> | And what user rights will you end up with after you run
> | convert.exe - everyone everything on the server? It's a
> | mess to get all rights fixed afterwards.
> | R.I.P. such HP setup systems.
> |
> | Cheers & Peace
> | EBE
>
>
Anonymous
May 5, 2004 12:51:35 PM

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If it were I then I would loose the HP installation and do a standard
install booting the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup disks.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


"Steven Ung" wrote:
| Well, that link will help if you can login. I can't login using the Admin
| account at all. What really bothers me is that HP support Engineer doesn't
| know anything about this. Perhaps I'm barking on the wrong tree?
|
| --
| Steven Ung
| "The source of all greatness lies within you" - Anonymous
Anonymous
May 5, 2004 2:36:04 PM

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Did just that last night, and so far, so good. Updated the security patches
for Windows 2003 and also updated SQL server to Service pack 3/a without
much hassle.

What I really can't comprehend is why are we the only ones having this
problem and I can't find anything off HP Website with regards to this issue.
--
Steven Ung
"The source of all greatness lies within you" - Anonymous
"Dave Patrick" <mail@NoSpam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message
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> If it were I then I would loose the HP installation and do a standard
> install booting the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup disks.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "Steven Ung" wrote:
> | Well, that link will help if you can login. I can't login using the
Admin
> | account at all. What really bothers me is that HP support Engineer
doesn't
> | know anything about this. Perhaps I'm barking on the wrong tree?
> |
> | --
> | Steven Ung
> | "The source of all greatness lies within you" - Anonymous
>
>
Anonymous
May 5, 2004 2:36:05 PM

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I can't answer. I frequent almost all the win2000.* and windows.server.*
groups and have never seen this issue with a new install. OTOH I wasn't
aware of the HP pre-installation sequence either.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


"Steven Ung" wrote:
| Did just that last night, and so far, so good. Updated the security
patches
| for Windows 2003 and also updated SQL server to Service pack 3/a without
| much hassle.
|
| What I really can't comprehend is why are we the only ones having this
| problem and I can't find anything off HP Website with regards to this
issue.
| --
| Steven Ung
Anonymous
May 5, 2004 3:46:40 PM

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I spoke too soon I suppose. I can't login using the Administrator account
anymore and this time is when it is in the midst of Windows Update: Critical
updates for Windows 2003 Security services.

The error message is "The system could not log you on. Please verify the
...."

This is the 12th time installation already and I'm ready to kill someone
now.

Whom shall it be? Microsoft or HP ? Decisions... decisions....

Suppose hardware failure is the cause of the problem, errhmn.. lets say hard
disk access failure.
--
Steven Ung
"The source of all greatness lies within you" - Anonymous
"Dave Patrick" <mail@NoSpam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message
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> I can't answer. I frequent almost all the win2000.* and windows.server.*
> groups and have never seen this issue with a new install. OTOH I wasn't
> aware of the HP pre-installation sequence either.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "Steven Ung" wrote:
> | Did just that last night, and so far, so good. Updated the security
> patches
> | for Windows 2003 and also updated SQL server to Service pack 3/a without
> | much hassle.
> |
> | What I really can't comprehend is why are we the only ones having this
> | problem and I can't find anything off HP Website with regards to this
> issue.
> | --
> | Steven Ung
>
>
Anonymous
May 5, 2004 3:46:41 PM

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Tell me you did create a backup admin account didn't you? If not this may
work for you.

http://securityadmin.info/noframes/faqget.asp#password

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


"Steven Ung" wrote:
|I spoke too soon I suppose. I can't login using the Administrator account
| anymore and this time is when it is in the midst of Windows Update:
Critical
| updates for Windows 2003 Security services.
|
| The error message is "The system could not log you on. Please verify the
| ..."
|
| This is the 12th time installation already and I'm ready to kill someone
| now.
|
| Whom shall it be? Microsoft or HP ? Decisions... decisions....
|
| Suppose hardware failure is the cause of the problem, errhmn.. lets say
hard
| disk access failure.
| --
| Steven Ung
Anonymous
May 5, 2004 8:15:54 PM

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I created 2 backup accounts and even rename the administrator account to
something else. All the 3 accounts (with Admin rights) can't login.

I'm really stumped, but on the bright side, I can even install the Windows
2003 server with my eyes closed! <g>

Thanks for the link. I'll try that once I've finished the reinstallation for
the 13th time!
--
Steven Ung
"The source of all greatness lies within you" - Anonymous

"Dave Patrick" <mail@NoSpam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message
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> Tell me you did create a backup admin account didn't you? If not this may
> work for you.
>
> http://securityadmin.info/noframes/faqget.asp#password
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "Steven Ung" wrote:
> |I spoke too soon I suppose. I can't login using the Administrator account
> | anymore and this time is when it is in the midst of Windows Update:
> Critical
> | updates for Windows 2003 Security services.
> |
> | The error message is "The system could not log you on. Please verify the
> | ..."
> |
> | This is the 12th time installation already and I'm ready to kill someone
> | now.
> |
> | Whom shall it be? Microsoft or HP ? Decisions... decisions....
> |
> | Suppose hardware failure is the cause of the problem, errhmn.. lets say
> hard
> | disk access failure.
> | --
> | Steven Ung
>
>
!