It burns me up everytime I think about how amd dropped the ball with this one. I was reading how the brisbanes consume 65 watts, and run at 11C full load. Can you imagine if amd had used ee opterons for the quad fx, i hope the barcelona cpu run like the brisbanes, with the performance amd is claiming for barcelona that would be a helluva system with 2 quad core barcelonas. I hope they fix this mess, and bring a octo fx to market that can run on a 600 watt power supply. For you intel boys the eight core xeon machine is cool too. Of course intel or amd rocks, being a fanboy for bang for your buck, I like to compare these things.
If AMD fixed up their QFX system, used EE Quad-core Opterons that outperform the intel C2Q, and lowered price of qfx mobos, I would DEFINATLY BUY ONE. Ill start dreaming now... 8O
There's only one QFX motherboard, right? Why couldn't BM just order the system with the least amount of memory possible and then add his own? I can't answer this - I don't have nLogic®.
what did u say? I can not hear you over the roar of my 4x4 fans!
ya i built one it works - its loud and hot and hard to work on -- the bottomn line is this:
if you need 12 sata ports for http home server its ok
if you need a quad system for encoding video its ok
the price is slightly lower - not a bad 3ghz system - if only my hearing wasn't going from the sound of the 4x4 fans.
what did u say? I can not hear you over the roar of my 4x4 fans!
ya i built one it works - its loud and hot and hard to work on -- the bottomn line is this:
if you need 12 sata ports for http home server its ok
if you need a quad system for encoding video its ok
the price is slightly lower - not a bad 3ghz system - if only my hearing wasn't going from the sound of the 4x4 fans.
Damn.
I entered this thread hoping for an opportunity to watch you make an idiot of yourself. I guess you didn't say anything too stupid this time... I am dissapointed
Another thing to mention is that QFX systems have huge memory bandwidth advantages over C2Q Systems.
-Integrated memory controller
-Dual memory controller
-Larger amounts of ram
I believe that there are some advanages that QFX has over intels quad core system. In workstation performance the QFX should outperform intel.
Another thing to mention is that QFX systems have huge memory bandwidth advantages over C2Q Systems.
-Integrated memory controller
-Dual memory controller
-Larger amounts of ram
I believe that there are some advanages that QFX has over intels quad core system. In workstation performance the QFX should outperform intel.
IMHO None as of yet, still waiting!
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Another thing to mention is that QFX systems have huge memory bandwidth advantages over C2Q Systems.
-Integrated memory controller
-Dual memory controller
-Larger amounts of ram
I believe that there are some advanages that QFX has over intels quad core system. In workstation performance the QFX should outperform intel.
Maybe I missed something, but if i wanted larger amounts of ram, I'd buy server hardware. I couldn't utilize over 4 gigs for workstation stuff anyways.
I just haven't seen any numbers to really back up any "advantages" to owning AMD's new CPUs.
If you have any data that shows AMD outperfroming Intel, I'd love to see it. I've been a supporter of AMD before the Athlons (K6 and even a K5 notebook CPU), but I just haven't seen a reason to buy the K8L. If the fastest AMD chips were 350 each, I'd consider buying an AMD for the price point / performance, but not before then.
I entered this thread hoping for an opportunity to watch you make an idiot of yourself. I guess you didn't say anything too stupid this time... I am dissapointed
But you're still an intel troll...
wow what do i see amti again! man i got a good deal on some 939 mobos - any you amti guys need one make me an offer:
There's only one QFX motherboard, right? Why couldn't BM just order the system with the least amount of memory possible and then add his own? I can't answer this - I don't have nLogic®.
This is a good question --- or, order it without the memory all together. Personally, ordering a pre-built takes the fun out of computing. I have only once in my life ordered a prebuilt, had nothing but problems with it.... annoying to because when you make a service call, you have to schedule and wait for the time to either take it in, ship it, or have a tech come out.
Personally, I don't think he actually knows how to build a DYI system.
I would love to put a QuadFX together just for the fun of putting a QuadFX together. I don't know why any enthusiast here wouldn't.
There's only one QFX motherboard, right? Why couldn't BM just order the system with the least amount of memory possible and then add his own? I can't answer this - I don't have nLogic®.
This is a good question --- or, order it without the memory all together. Personally, ordering a pre-built takes the fun out of computing. I have only once in my life ordered a prebuilt, had nothing but problems with it.... annoying to because when you make a service call, you have to schedule and wait for the time to either take it in, ship it, or have a tech come out.
Personally, I don't think he actually knows how to build a DYI system.
I would love to put a QuadFX together just for the fun of putting a QuadFX together. I don't know why any enthusiast here wouldn't.
I would consider it with Barcelona and if 65 nm improves significantly --- the K8 core has been pushed to the limit so there is not much overclocking headroom.
Agreed. I can't wait for rev 2 QuadFXs...but I don't expect overclocking to rock on Barcelona. I'm getting that vibe from the low expected clock speeds, which is either disappointing or AMD is really messing with the market on purpose (unlikely).
There's only one QFX motherboard, right? Why couldn't BM just order the system with the least amount of memory possible and then add his own? I can't answer this - I don't have nLogic®.
This is a good question --- or, order it without the memory all together. Personally, ordering a pre-built takes the fun out of computing. I have only once in my life ordered a prebuilt, had nothing but problems with it.... annoying to because when you make a service call, you have to schedule and wait for the time to either take it in, ship it, or have a tech come out.
Personally, I don't think he actually knows how to build a DYI system.
Obviously none of you can read. And JagOff actually called me on quoting the wrong PSU for my DIY not DYI. I guess in your haste you made a mistake, huhn?
AMD only wanted it to support 4GB. I may as well get a 6000+ w 8GB and upgrade to Agena.
Agreed. I can't wait for rev 2 QuadFXs...but I don't expect overclocking to rock on Barcelona. I'm getting that vibe from the low expected clock speeds, which is either disappointing or AMD is really messing with the market on purpose (unlikely).
Why do you think Intel is hawking Clovertown at under 2.66GHz? To keep 4 cores at 95W it has to be below 2.3-2.4GHz.
There's only one QFX motherboard, right? Why couldn't BM just order the system with the least amount of memory possible and then add his own? I can't answer this - I don't have nLogic®.
This is a good question --- or, order it without the memory all together. Personally, ordering a pre-built takes the fun out of computing. I have only once in my life ordered a prebuilt, had nothing but problems with it.... annoying to because when you make a service call, you have to schedule and wait for the time to either take it in, ship it, or have a tech come out.
Personally, I don't think he actually knows how to build a DYI system.
I would love to put a QuadFX together just for the fun of putting a QuadFX together. I don't know why any enthusiast here wouldn't.
You do realize that you can use Opteron 2xxx and 2210HE is only $195. The ASUS board has dropped to $359 at Newegg.
Agreed. I can't wait for rev 2 QuadFXs...but I don't expect overclocking to rock on Barcelona. I'm getting that vibe from the low expected clock speeds, which is either disappointing or AMD is really messing with the market on purpose (unlikely).
Why do you think Intel is hawking Clovertown at under 2.66GHz? To keep 4 cores at 95W it has to be below 2.3-2.4GHz.
True enough. Dual-core frequencies aren't expected to be much higher, though.
what did u say? I can not hear you over the roar of my 4x4 fans!
ya i built one it works - its loud and hot and hard to work on -- the bottomn line is this:
if you need 12 sata ports for http home server its ok
if you need a quad system for encoding video its ok
the price is slightly lower - not a bad 3ghz system - if only my hearing wasn't going from the sound of the 4x4 fans.
How many people need 12 sata ports? For a home server no less. Just how much porn are you trying to store/network?
- any you amti guys need one make me an offer:
