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February 26, 2007 12:24:06 AM

It burns me up everytime I think about how amd dropped the ball with this one. I was reading how the brisbanes consume 65 watts, and run at 11C full load. Can you imagine if amd had used ee opterons for the quad fx, i hope the barcelona cpu run like the brisbanes, with the performance amd is claiming for barcelona that would be a helluva system with 2 quad core barcelonas. I hope they fix this mess, and bring a octo fx to market that can run on a 600 watt power supply. For you intel boys the eight core xeon machine is cool too. Of course intel or amd rocks, being a fanboy for bang for your buck, I like to compare these things.

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February 26, 2007 12:38:17 AM

If AMD fixed up their QFX system, used EE Quad-core Opterons that outperform the intel C2Q, and lowered price of qfx mobos, I would DEFINATLY BUY ONE. Ill start dreaming now... 8O
February 26, 2007 12:45:31 AM

There's only one QFX motherboard, right? Why couldn't BM just order the system with the least amount of memory possible and then add his own? I can't answer this - I don't have nLogic®.
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February 26, 2007 12:46:53 AM

what did u say? I can not hear you over the roar of my 4x4 fans!
ya i built one it works - its loud and hot and hard to work on -- the bottomn line is this:

if you need 12 sata ports for http home server its ok
if you need a quad system for encoding video its ok

the price is slightly lower - not a bad 3ghz system - if only my hearing wasn't going from the sound of the 4x4 fans.
February 26, 2007 12:51:23 AM

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what did u say? I can not hear you over the roar of my 4x4 fans!
ya i built one it works - its loud and hot and hard to work on -- the bottomn line is this:

if you need 12 sata ports for http home server its ok
if you need a quad system for encoding video its ok

the price is slightly lower - not a bad 3ghz system - if only my hearing wasn't going from the sound of the 4x4 fans.


Damn.

I entered this thread hoping for an opportunity to watch you make an idiot of yourself. I guess you didn't say anything too stupid this time... I am dissapointed :p 

But you're still an intel troll...
February 26, 2007 12:56:26 AM

Maybe if they improve the platform, and get K8L/K10 versions on it, it might be worth considering.
February 26, 2007 1:02:12 AM

Another thing to mention is that QFX systems have huge memory bandwidth advantages over C2Q Systems.
-Integrated memory controller
-Dual memory controller
-Larger amounts of ram

I believe that there are some advanages that QFX has over intels quad core system. In workstation performance the QFX should outperform intel.
February 26, 2007 1:20:48 AM

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Another thing to mention is that QFX systems have huge memory bandwidth advantages over C2Q Systems.
-Integrated memory controller
-Dual memory controller
-Larger amounts of ram

I believe that there are some advanages that QFX has over intels quad core system. In workstation performance the QFX should outperform intel.


IMHO None as of yet, still waiting! :( 


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February 26, 2007 1:52:52 AM

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Another thing to mention is that QFX systems have huge memory bandwidth advantages over C2Q Systems.
-Integrated memory controller
-Dual memory controller
-Larger amounts of ram

I believe that there are some advanages that QFX has over intels quad core system. In workstation performance the QFX should outperform intel.


Maybe I missed something, but if i wanted larger amounts of ram, I'd buy server hardware. I couldn't utilize over 4 gigs for workstation stuff anyways.

I just haven't seen any numbers to really back up any "advantages" to owning AMD's new CPUs.

If you have any data that shows AMD outperfroming Intel, I'd love to see it. I've been a supporter of AMD before the Athlons (K6 and even a K5 notebook CPU), but I just haven't seen a reason to buy the K8L. If the fastest AMD chips were 350 each, I'd consider buying an AMD for the price point / performance, but not before then.
February 26, 2007 2:23:03 AM

haha :twisted:

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Damn.

I entered this thread hoping for an opportunity to watch you make an idiot of yourself. I guess you didn't say anything too stupid this time... I am dissapointed :p 

But you're still an intel troll...


wow what do i see amti again! man i got a good deal on some 939 mobos :idea: - any you amti guys need one make me an offer:

mach speed --- msnv-939

lol

IFB (amti is always #2)
February 26, 2007 2:24:35 AM

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There's only one QFX motherboard, right? Why couldn't BM just order the system with the least amount of memory possible and then add his own? I can't answer this - I don't have nLogic®.


This is a good question --- or, order it without the memory all together. Personally, ordering a pre-built takes the fun out of computing. I have only once in my life ordered a prebuilt, had nothing but problems with it.... annoying to because when you make a service call, you have to schedule and wait for the time to either take it in, ship it, or have a tech come out.

Personally, I don't think he actually knows how to build a DYI system.

I would love to put a QuadFX together just for the fun of putting a QuadFX together. I don't know why any enthusiast here wouldn't.
February 26, 2007 2:27:57 AM

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There's only one QFX motherboard, right? Why couldn't BM just order the system with the least amount of memory possible and then add his own? I can't answer this - I don't have nLogic®.


This is a good question --- or, order it without the memory all together. Personally, ordering a pre-built takes the fun out of computing. I have only once in my life ordered a prebuilt, had nothing but problems with it.... annoying to because when you make a service call, you have to schedule and wait for the time to either take it in, ship it, or have a tech come out.

Personally, I don't think he actually knows how to build a DYI system.


I would love to put a QuadFX together just for the fun of putting a QuadFX together. I don't know why any enthusiast here wouldn't.

I would consider it with Barcelona and if 65 nm improves significantly --- the K8 core has been pushed to the limit so there is not much overclocking headroom.

Agreed. I can't wait for rev 2 QuadFXs...but I don't expect overclocking to rock on Barcelona. I'm getting that vibe from the low expected clock speeds, which is either disappointing or AMD is really messing with the market on purpose (unlikely).
February 26, 2007 2:28:22 AM

i thought there were 2 mobos an more coming?

ya the 4x4 is not a first time build - i suggest you get a intel qaud core you just drop in and fire up.
February 26, 2007 2:32:46 AM

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i thought there were 2 mobos an more coming?

ya the 4x4 is not a first time build - i suggest you get a intel qaud core you just drop in and fire up.


Installing two CPUs instead of one. Yeah...definitely harder than an Intel system... :roll:
February 26, 2007 2:40:28 AM

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There's only one QFX motherboard, right? Why couldn't BM just order the system with the least amount of memory possible and then add his own? I can't answer this - I don't have nLogic®.


This is a good question --- or, order it without the memory all together. Personally, ordering a pre-built takes the fun out of computing. I have only once in my life ordered a prebuilt, had nothing but problems with it.... annoying to because when you make a service call, you have to schedule and wait for the time to either take it in, ship it, or have a tech come out.

Personally, I don't think he actually knows how to build a DYI system.

Obviously none of you can read. And JagOff actually called me on quoting the wrong PSU for my DIY not DYI. I guess in your haste you made a mistake, huhn?

AMD only wanted it to support 4GB. I may as well get a 6000+ w 8GB and upgrade to Agena.
February 26, 2007 2:40:29 AM

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i thought there were 2 mobos an more coming?

ya the 4x4 is not a first time build - i suggest you get a intel qaud core you just drop in and fire up.


Installing two CPUs instead of one. Yeah...definitely harder than an Intel system... :roll:

HAHAHA, I was gonna say that too, but i decided it would put me over my quota of calling him an idiot on one page... :wink:

PS. What was i thinking, calling an idiot an idiot has no quota
February 26, 2007 2:45:43 AM

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Agreed. I can't wait for rev 2 QuadFXs...but I don't expect overclocking to rock on Barcelona. I'm getting that vibe from the low expected clock speeds, which is either disappointing or AMD is really messing with the market on purpose (unlikely).



Why do you think Intel is hawking Clovertown at under 2.66GHz? To keep 4 cores at 95W it has to be below 2.3-2.4GHz.
February 26, 2007 2:48:21 AM

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There's only one QFX motherboard, right? Why couldn't BM just order the system with the least amount of memory possible and then add his own? I can't answer this - I don't have nLogic®.


This is a good question --- or, order it without the memory all together. Personally, ordering a pre-built takes the fun out of computing. I have only once in my life ordered a prebuilt, had nothing but problems with it.... annoying to because when you make a service call, you have to schedule and wait for the time to either take it in, ship it, or have a tech come out.

Personally, I don't think he actually knows how to build a DYI system.

I would love to put a QuadFX together just for the fun of putting a QuadFX together. I don't know why any enthusiast here wouldn't.


You do realize that you can use Opteron 2xxx and 2210HE is only $195. The ASUS board has dropped to $359 at Newegg.

Go for it.
February 26, 2007 2:48:45 AM

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Agreed. I can't wait for rev 2 QuadFXs...but I don't expect overclocking to rock on Barcelona. I'm getting that vibe from the low expected clock speeds, which is either disappointing or AMD is really messing with the market on purpose (unlikely).



Why do you think Intel is hawking Clovertown at under 2.66GHz? To keep 4 cores at 95W it has to be below 2.3-2.4GHz.

True enough. Dual-core frequencies aren't expected to be much higher, though.
February 26, 2007 3:07:30 AM

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what did u say? I can not hear you over the roar of my 4x4 fans!
ya i built one it works - its loud and hot and hard to work on -- the bottomn line is this:

if you need 12 sata ports for http home server its ok
if you need a quad system for encoding video its ok

the price is slightly lower - not a bad 3ghz system - if only my hearing wasn't going from the sound of the 4x4 fans.


How many people need 12 sata ports? For a home server no less. Just how much porn are you trying to store/network?
February 26, 2007 3:13:02 AM

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what did u say? I can not hear you over the roar of my 4x4 fans!
ya i built one it works - its loud and hot and hard to work on -- the bottomn line is this:

if you need 12 sata ports for http home server its ok
if you need a quad system for encoding video its ok

the price is slightly lower - not a bad 3ghz system - if only my hearing wasn't going from the sound of the 4x4 fans.


How many people need 12 sata ports? For a home server no less. Just how much porn are you trying to store/network?

A LOT! :wink:

Seriously, never doubt people's porn collections...

I remember when i first joined this forum, there was a thread about how much porn people had. I'm pretty sure mpjesse topped the list:p 

But there are some people who see those ads where is says, see our entire collection of 3000gigs of movies for only 39.95 a month, and take that as a challenge :twisted:
February 26, 2007 3:25:16 AM

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If you have any data that shows AMD outperfroming Intel, I'd love to see it. I've been a supporter of AMD before the Athlons (K6 and even a K5 notebook CPU), but I just haven't seen a reason to buy the K8L. If the fastest AMD chips were 350 each, I'd consider buying an AMD for the price point / performance, but not before then.


Okay... you asked for it... Tom's Hardware CPU Charts for beginners...
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=430&model2=464&chart=163

No go hide in the corner. :p  :lol:  :lol: 

If you poke around Tom's CPU Charts you will find more instances where AMD K8 beats the Intel C2D. :wink:
February 26, 2007 3:34:17 AM

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And JagOff actually called me on quoting the wrong PSU for my DIY not DYI.


How embarrassing -- name calling! Why don't you clean up your act a little bit! :?
February 26, 2007 4:39:51 AM

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Just how much porn are you trying to store/network?
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!!! Don't you know the rule of all rules of porn??? More is always better. :wink:
February 26, 2007 11:45:03 AM

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Just how much porn are you trying to store/network?
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!!! Don't you know the rule of all rules of porn??? More is always better. :wink:

What a great example for the younger readers. You probably don't even care.

Oh well. :roll:
February 26, 2007 12:15:11 PM

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And JagOff actually called me on quoting the wrong PSU for my DIY not DYI.


How embarrassing -- name calling! Why don't you clean up your act a little bit! :?

Ohhhh, he started doing that back in May 2006 :)  .... I don't care. It is kinda funny really.


And as usual you deflect. JagOff is not like "idiot" or some of the names you have used. And it's DIY, not DYI.
February 26, 2007 12:19:08 PM

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You first --- it was, of course, all you wanted for Xmas....



First, I wasn't talking to you and second I love how you can't remember me saying that 8GB support was required. AMD told ASUS to lock the sockets to 1GB. You know just like SFF mobos. They only support 1GB slots.
February 26, 2007 1:14:57 PM

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If you have any data that shows AMD outperfroming Intel, I'd love to see it. I've been a supporter of AMD before the Athlons (K6 and even a K5 notebook CPU), but I just haven't seen a reason to buy the K8L. If the fastest AMD chips were 350 each, I'd consider buying an AMD for the price point / performance, but not before then.


Okay... you asked for it... Tom's Hardware CPU Charts for beginners...
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=430&model2=464&chart=163

No go hide in the corner. :p  :lol:  :lol: 

If you poke around Tom's CPU Charts you will find more instances where AMD K8 beats the Intel C2D. :wink:


Did you go through every test to find the 1 benchmark that favors the AMD?
February 26, 2007 2:35:25 PM

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You first --- it was, of course, all you wanted for Xmas....



First, I wasn't talking to you and second I love how you can't remember me saying that 8GB support was required. AMD told ASUS to lock the sockets to 1GB. You know just like SFF mobos. They only support 1GB slots.

Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends? (come on guys...sing it with me) Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends?
February 26, 2007 3:01:13 PM

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You first --- it was, of course, all you wanted for Xmas....



First, I wasn't talking to you and second I love how you can't remember me saying that 8GB support was required. AMD told ASUS to lock the sockets to 1GB. You know just like SFF mobos. They only support 1GB slots.

Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends? (come on guys...sing it with me) Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends?


We don't need to be friends, just considerate of the opinions of others.
February 26, 2007 3:07:29 PM

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First, I wasn't talking to you and second I love how you can't remember me saying that 8GB support was required. AMD told ASUS to lock the sockets to 1GB. You know just like SFF mobos. They only support 1GB slots.

Hey, moron, why don't you visit Asus official page and check if the sockets are locked to 1GB?

http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1530&l1=3&l2=82&l3=489
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Dual channel memory architecture
- 4 x DIMM, max. 8GB, DDR2-800/667/533/400, ECC and non-ECC, un-buffered memory
February 26, 2007 3:13:28 PM

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First, I wasn't talking to you and second I love how you can't remember me saying that 8GB support was required. AMD told ASUS to lock the sockets to 1GB. You know just like SFF mobos. They only support 1GB slots.

Hey, moron, why don't you visit Asus official page and check if the sockets are locked to 1GB?

http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1530&l1=3&l2=82&l3=489
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Dual channel memory architecture
- 4 x DIMM, max. 8GB, DDR2-800/667/533/400, ECC and non-ECC, un-buffered memory



I can read. Newegg's description says that too, but that's not what AMD is saying. I will send an email to find out. Wait I did that already.
February 26, 2007 3:14:21 PM

BTW, that gay GIF is really starting to turn my stomach. How can you stand it?
a c 99 à CPUs
February 26, 2007 3:44:48 PM

The first unit I ever built was a dual Xeon Irwindale machine and it wasn't all that hard at all. I didn't see much difference between doing that and my X2 4200+ and a later X2 5200+ build. It was a little tighter working with that particular unit inside of a more or less normal ATX case than it would have been with a standard UP system, but it wasn't all that difficult.
a c 99 à CPUs
February 26, 2007 3:52:59 PM

Well, for builds today SATA is the internal cable interface of choice for pretty much everything. At a bare minimum, somebody will use two SATA ports, one for the optical drive and another for the HDD. Many of us here have more than one HDD and optical drive, so that brings the total of needed ports to 3, 4, or more. And then you figure that eSATA also uses SATA connectors unless it's built into the motherboard, and then your external hard drive that you should be backing up to also takes an SATA port.

It's easy to see how people can use a lot of SATA ports, just like they can use a lot of USB ports. 12 might be a bit many, but it's easy to see 4 to 6 get used. Anyway, how much more did those ports cost to add? $30? That's still a heck of a lot cheaper than buying an external board with as many ports as the board has onboard .
February 26, 2007 3:53:43 PM

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what did u say? I can not hear you over the roar of my 4x4 fans!
ya i built one it works - its loud and hot and hard to work on -- the bottomn line is this:

if you need 12 sata ports for http home server its ok
if you need a quad system for encoding video its ok

the price is slightly lower - not a bad 3ghz system - if only my hearing wasn't going from the sound of the 4x4 fans.


How many people need 12 sata ports? For a home server no less. Just how much porn are you trying to store/network?



Theoretically speaking - lets say you rip movies - hypothetically. You got 3 xbox 360's each hooked to 3 nice http systems - you network them as media extenders. You run windows mce or home premium and you use currently available software to integrate all this.

Lets say you build the machine with 1.5tb and fill up the 6 sata ports on your average mobo and 6 months later you got no more room for movies!

Those extra 6 sata ports are nice! If you happen to have a lian li case like my avatar with 10 bays for hdd and 2 more in the 5.25 slots!

Sure you can add a add an hdd box or card but its nice to have 3-4+ TB system for the extreme http user. Besides with 2 double slot gpu's there is not room for add on cards.

You alternative is intel qx6700 and a add on card - so the 4x4 is less expensive - again what if you have no room for the add on card. The quad core "would" signifcantly speed up the file conversion for such a system!
February 26, 2007 4:18:05 PM

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If you have any data that shows AMD outperfroming Intel, I'd love to see it. I've been a supporter of AMD before the Athlons (K6 and even a K5 notebook CPU), but I just haven't seen a reason to buy the K8L. If the fastest AMD chips were 350 each, I'd consider buying an AMD for the price point / performance, but not before then.


Okay... you asked for it... Tom's Hardware CPU Charts for beginners...
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=430&model2=464&chart=163

No go hide in the corner. :p  :lol:  :lol: 

If you poke around Tom's CPU Charts you will find more instances where AMD K8 beats the Intel C2D. :wink:

I'm more concerned with comparing apples to apples (4 cores to 4 cores), but sure, why not. I found instances where the FX-74 was beaten out by athlon64 4800 + (see the xvid comparison for CPUs, the most bottom option). That seems odd to me. I think I'll just ignore that since its most likely not true and a goofy by TOMS. Itunes was the ONLY thing that the FX-74 beat out EVERYTHING. In many other instances, even the e6600 and e6700 beat the FX-74. Thats not acceptable for the amount of money that the FX-74 costs (not comparing mobo and PSU requirements).
February 26, 2007 4:34:46 PM

I think I covered this in my first post. This system is good for the 12 satas or video encoding or if want the lowest cost quadcore - not much else.

I have seen posts on new egg and other places claiming that 4x4 beats the q6700, as you have pointed out it can be out performed by dual cores.

It appears, to me a system builder, that quad processing is similar the 64-bit - more tweeks are needed by microsoft to optimize multi threading.
February 26, 2007 4:41:34 PM

yes you are right - cooling issues is about it. I just think most people might want to start off with an "el cheapo" before they bend pins or short out something or try putting in memory with power on etc.
February 26, 2007 6:01:01 PM

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We don't need to be friends, just considerate of the opinions of others.


So appropriately spoken, by the most considerate poster on THG. :roll:
February 26, 2007 8:35:52 PM

I will probably never buy a quad/octo fx even if i could afford it, but it sounds so cool, 2 cpu, 8 cores(be great for that battlestar galactica game, :D  ), But i know guys who are extreme power users and will use the quad fx(and octo) to its full potential. Be nice if there was a bigger variety of mobo, like the guy said, who needs 12 sata ports. If shortterm amd could bring a cheaper mobo, and ee fx cpus to market I think more people would buy the quad fx. I think it makes more sense to wait for barcelona quad core, but then again the option to upgrade to 8 cores is so appealing. Oh well.
February 26, 2007 8:59:39 PM

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I will probably never buy a quad/octo fx even if i could afford it, but it sounds so cool, 2 cpu, 8 cores(be great for that battlestar galactica game, :D  ), But i know guys who are extreme power users and will use the quad fx(and octo) to its full potential. Be nice if there was a bigger variety of mobo, like the guy said, who needs 12 sata ports. If shortterm amd could bring a cheaper mobo, and ee fx cpus to market I think more people would buy the quad fx. I think it makes more sense to wait for barcelona quad core, but then again the option to upgrade to 8 cores is so appealing. Oh well.



There are already EE chips for QFX. Opteron 2210HE, 2212. The HE is at 68W and costs only $195. The mobo has dropped to below the top end C2Q board and the fact that Newegg has sold out of them before means people are buying it. AMD just released new fans that are much quieter and the latest ASUS bios fixes the CnQ problem so idle goes down to C2Q levels.
February 26, 2007 9:13:00 PM

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I will probably never buy a quad/octo fx even if i could afford it, but it sounds so cool, 2 cpu, 8 cores(be great for that battlestar galactica game, :D  ), But i know guys who are extreme power users and will use the quad fx(and octo) to its full potential. Be nice if there was a bigger variety of mobo, like the guy said, who needs 12 sata ports. If shortterm amd could bring a cheaper mobo, and ee fx cpus to market I think more people would buy the quad fx. I think it makes more sense to wait for barcelona quad core, but then again the option to upgrade to 8 cores is so appealing. Oh well.



There are already EE chips for QFX. Opteron 2210HE, 2212. The HE is at 68W and costs only $195. The mobo has dropped to below the top end C2Q board and the fact that Newegg has sold out of them before means people are buying it. AMD just released new fans that are much quieter and the latest ASUS bios fixes the CnQ problem so idle goes down to C2Q levels.
So why dont you buy it, you were preaching it till benchmarks came out that you would get one.

Oh by the way, Asus made the mobo not newegg, so dont quote specs from vendors there Kalif :p 
February 26, 2007 10:17:40 PM

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I will probably never buy a quad/octo fx even if i could afford it, but it sounds so cool, 2 cpu, 8 cores(be great for that battlestar galactica game, :D  ), But i know guys who are extreme power users and will use the quad fx(and octo) to its full potential. Be nice if there was a bigger variety of mobo, like the guy said, who needs 12 sata ports. If shortterm amd could bring a cheaper mobo, and ee fx cpus to market I think more people would buy the quad fx. I think it makes more sense to wait for barcelona quad core, but then again the option to upgrade to 8 cores is so appealing. Oh well.



There are already EE chips for QFX. Opteron 2210HE, 2212. The HE is at 68W and costs only $195. The mobo has dropped to below the top end C2Q board and the fact that Newegg has sold out of them before means people are buying it. AMD just released new fans that are much quieter and the latest ASUS bios fixes the CnQ problem so idle goes down to C2Q levels.

But full load still goes to the whopping 500-600 watt mark.... only if you are megatasking though I suppose.


As a person so versed in CPU theory one would think you know that a 2.0GHz chip is NOT going to draw close to the power of a 3GHz chip.

The HE Opterons are rated at 68W. Two of those is just slightly more than one FX74

Go read some more white papers.
February 26, 2007 10:19:02 PM

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I will probably never buy a quad/octo fx even if i could afford it, but it sounds so cool, 2 cpu, 8 cores(be great for that battlestar galactica game, :D  ), But i know guys who are extreme power users and will use the quad fx(and octo) to its full potential. Be nice if there was a bigger variety of mobo, like the guy said, who needs 12 sata ports. If shortterm amd could bring a cheaper mobo, and ee fx cpus to market I think more people would buy the quad fx. I think it makes more sense to wait for barcelona quad core, but then again the option to upgrade to 8 cores is so appealing. Oh well.



There are already EE chips for QFX. Opteron 2210HE, 2212. The HE is at 68W and costs only $195. The mobo has dropped to below the top end C2Q board and the fact that Newegg has sold out of them before means people are buying it. AMD just released new fans that are much quieter and the latest ASUS bios fixes the CnQ problem so idle goes down to C2Q levels.
So why dont you buy it, you were preaching it till benchmarks came out that you would get one.

Oh by the way, Asus made the mobo not newegg, so dont quote specs from vendors there Kalif :p 

You mean Newegg DOESN'T make mobos? I guess I am a n00b.
February 26, 2007 10:20:01 PM

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Baron, in the course of 5000 posts I never used that word, except on you.... I marked my 5000th post by stating, damn you force me to say this as you are someone who repeatedly gets it always wrong and one who posts such foolish and utterly nonsensical information the word fits you. I do not arrive at that conclusion easily --- it takes a repetitive pattern to establish and label from me such as this.... no other poster on the board is deserving of wearing this label, except you.



I just like watching you jump through hoops worried about what I do.
February 26, 2007 11:13:14 PM

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I just like watching you jump through hoops worried about what I do.

Hey, my OCed E6400 is still waiting for your space heater to wipe the floor with it :) 
February 26, 2007 11:19:46 PM

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Just how much porn are you trying to store/network?
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!!! Don't you know the rule of all rules of porn??? More is always better. :wink:


Lol.

"AMD QFX...designed with the home pornographer in mind" Hell, thats the slogan AMD should have used instead of trying to pawn a slow, expensive pollution producer of on the enthusiast market, the vast majority of whom know better. :wink:
February 26, 2007 11:20:14 PM

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I just like watching you jump through hoops worried about what I do.

Hey, my OCed E6400 is still waiting for your space heater to wipe the floor with it :) 

In the meantime I'm sure you'll enjoy your little friend's dance.
:oops: 
February 26, 2007 11:21:21 PM

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Just how much porn are you trying to store/network?
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!!! Don't you know the rule of all rules of porn??? More is always better. :wink:


Lol.

"AMD QFX...designed with the home pornographer in mind" Hell, thats the slogan AMD should have used instead of trying to pawn a slow, expensive pollution producer of on the enthusiast market, the vast majority of whom know better. :wink:


Well, whether anyone likes it or not, porn MADE the internet.
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